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asciilifeform: but going back up the stack, i want to highlight how retarded the whole seed pool thing is
asciilifeform: and i dare say that this will become more apparent as 'axe time, sword time' carries on
thestringpuller: is there no manual approach for this process yet? i.e. people sign/deed node ip address. you use -connect flag
asciilifeform: i.e. meter resource consumption per peer.
asciilifeform: i've held off attempting to do anything about this because 'usg can diddle packets arbitrarily, we need gossipd' but there is no particular logic to this.
asciilifeform: i am contemplating a strictly 2-tiered hierarchy here.
mircea_popescu: among themselves i mean.
asciilifeform: so i will review, for the benefit of non-panzers, the current state ☟︎
punkman: I can give you a secret phrase, which if hashed and used as torrent infohash, allows you to get my current IPs from torrent tracker
punkman: suppose I have two dozen nodes on dynamic IP
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 23:48:49; punkman: I have a suggestion for an irc-bootstrap replacement in TRB. UDP torrent tracker announce, only takes a couple UDP packets, code's pretty simple. Recent client was using this in a small app, kinda cool.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377917 << i must point out that the whole 'seeding' concept - as contemplated in the dark ages pre-trb client - is profoundly braindamaged. ☝︎
linton_s_dawson: mircea_popescu Thanks, I'll sign up for the mailing list as well.
punkman: I'll post a python POC to the ml perhaps, could just run it before you start the node and it gives you a bunch of IPs to -addnode or -connect to
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 23:48:49; punkman: I have a suggestion for an irc-bootstrap replacement in TRB. UDP torrent tracker announce, only takes a couple UDP packets, code's pretty simple. Recent client was using this in a small app, kinda cool.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377917 << not a bad incremental improvement but i suspect that whole stack is so thoroughly hated it will get thrown out rather than improved. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 23:36:09; buZz: i like how bitcoin has all these clusters of people, with all very different societal structures and narratives
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377899 << i like that too. ☝︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i ask cause the thread is disjointed. as you once said before !s doesn't show the entire picture
trinque: cazalla: I recall expired key drama in zee logz; iirc asciilifeform has his actual key hosted on loper-os.org
asciilifeform: at any rate, i cannot recommend any presently-manufactured x86 chipset except as a 'lesser evil'
punkman: now if only I could get g-series with ECC I'd be very happy
asciilifeform: punkman: the g-series coreboot i have here has 'blobs' per the strictest definition, they are - iirc - modify but don't redistribute - licensed by amd
asciilifeform: i have a 'gizmo 1'
asciilifeform: punkman: the pcengines box (at least the ones i have)
asciilifeform: which is when i lost what remaining interest i had.
punkman: "A friend once asked me to watch a video with her that she was going to display on her computer using Netflix. I declined, saying that Netflix was such an affront to freedom that I could not be party to its use under any circumstances whatsoever." -- RMS
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/41ge93/bitcoin_classic_is_possibly_a_takeover_attempt_by/cz2c58a >> "Thirdly, the guy is massively obese. Now, as the sophisticated redditor you presume yourself to be, you may claim that I'm using ad-hominem attacks and will now sit back as if you were a learned professor of Latin, but please consider that anyone as grossly obese as Marshall Long is lacking in self-discipline and self-con
shinohai: These adorable little coke straws: http://i.imgur.com/wzKHCJ1.jpg
linton_s_dawson: I'll read up on that now, thanks. Also, interesting to see you support (or at least are not against) a new PoW that will destroy most miners.
linton_s_dawson: I'm looking to research the "v" thing you've bee talking about but searching for the letter "v" in the logs is obviously not working that well. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
punkman: I have a suggestion for an irc-bootstrap replacement in TRB. UDP torrent tracker announce, only takes a couple UDP packets, code's pretty simple. Recent client was using this in a small app, kinda cool. ☟︎☟︎
gernika: thestringpuller: I can't fathom slack. There are already a ton of manager friendly centralized IRC services out there.
punkman: I don't
thestringpuller: slack is so shitty. the logging is completely ineffective. oh and they want you to pay for extra logs? i can't even...
buZz: punkman: i just dont like to change routine
buZz: i'll stay pgpless, do as you wish ;)
buZz: i like how bitcoin has all these clusters of people, with all very different societal structures and narratives ☟︎
buZz: but its about authentication right, so even with signature i could proof i am me for i have this address
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'ma bbl.
buZz: i can use another channel to idle in, do you mind?
buZz: ^_^ i just bought one just looking around
cazalla: copypaste, i'm probably using the wrong word (smooth scrolling) to say what i mean
buZz: 16:12:13asciilifeform:punkman, jurov: i have a similar device, 'zipit'
cazalla: copypaste, how so? i see the tearing on anything less than 120hz, still can see it on 120hz but isn't as noticable
copypaste: i think you answered your own question just now, no ?
buZz: i am me ☟︎
pete_dushenski: i must scroll too slow. i ~am~ a bit of a turtle.
copypaste: I prefer having my chats in groups of 3.
SamPatt: Unless he's proposing that all Bitcoin transactions are only being done to perpetuate further fraud then it's not a ponzi. Since I use Bitcoin for transactions that are for other purposes, it's clearly not ponzi
SamPatt: Only transactions relating to the scheme, correct? Perhaps I'm not familiar with the original scheme itself, but as Ponzi scheme is regularly defined today it's just taking in new money to give returns to older players. There's no transactions occurring except to continue this fraud.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you have more patience than i do, the nth bhagwan chowdhry is really no different from the n-1th
SamPatt: Ponzi schemes are just fraud, there's nothing of value being done. What I'm trying to get across is that with Bitcoin something of value is actually happening (transactions).
SamPatt: I didn't want to make it a "Is Hearn a core dev or not?" blog post, but just gave him the point on that. I do later say it's a non-event, because in the grand scheme I agree it wasn't important.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: i think ben uses it but i have nfi ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i blame pete.
SamPatt: No I haven't
SamPatt: Well I've gone a bit down the rabbit hole myself after being involved more in Bitcoin and OpenBazaar
SamPatt: I've been on quite the learning curve the past few years.
SamPatt: Yes, "proper key" I see my Win32 wasn't terribly impressive to some, haha
mircea_popescu: i'd ALMOST pay that much to make alf php
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377762 << it is how i see the role of the inventor. sex ad libitum goes with horde of offsprint, ~until doesn't~; being 50 goes with no longer able to read, until it doesn't; night goes with can't-make-the-slaves-work, until doesn't; etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377629 << i am now growing lovage. by all signs, thisis the first time the deliciouys weed made it to argentina. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mats i added one the wrong way!
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> mircea_popescu> what american goes shrooming ? << high-seekers and they call it "hunting" i think << But also people who want to eat delicious morels
danielpbarron: i used to hang out on the shroomery irc server; even met some of them in person
mircea_popescu: i was scammed!
mircea_popescu: ah ok. i was about to scream @editor for missing one AGAIN. but no!
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> what american goes shrooming ? << high-seekers and they call it "hunting" i think
ascii_butugychag: or hm, nm, i hallucinated it
mircea_popescu: every time i see that i think "wh othe fuck would use gw-basic"
assbot: Line by Line Response to WaPo “R.I.P. Bitcoin” Article | Samuel R. Patterson ... ( http://bit.ly/1T2iXye )
pete_dushenski: http://samuelrpatterson.com/line-by-line-response-to-wapo-r-i-p-bitcoin-article/ << like a redditardo version of latest trilema. lulzy to compare the two.
ascii_butugychag: i once tried to get a few american biochemists interested in a portable tox panel for mushrooms
jurov: i did grasp it but, that's why i asked about software
ascii_butugychag: but i can't think of any reason why anyone should give a fuck re: the difference presently, so count me as sold
ascii_butugychag: seems like nobody grasped the actual point i was trying to make - where the provenance is a means to an end (clean tomato) rather than the end
ascii_butugychag: i can think of a few very gamma-backgroundy places where 'my folk lived 2400 y'
mircea_popescu: because i know a lot more about a clean spot than you';ll know about your list.
mircea_popescu: i'd take provenance over "known list"
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 21:43:56; ascii_butugychag: perhaps i'll hire PeterL to do it.
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 21:42:41; ascii_butugychag: i'm not buying rembrandts
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377590 << for cheese i care. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: yoga pants chicks are in both kinds of stores here, but i guess our "normal" grocery stores in alberta are fucking deeeelux in 99.999% of the world. the hippie stores here aren't so bad but their staffs are beyond useless and the sanitation is definitely sub-par.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i don't personally 'gm'. at least, not any more.
ascii_butugychag: i happen to see reasoning about items glued together by happenstance as if they were intrinsically the same, as lame.
danielpbarron: what ascii says about food in d.c. is also true in ct. I must go to the stupid hippy store in which most of the aisles are full of overpriced overhyped nonsense just to get the meat and veggies that actually taste alright and aren't poisoned. At least these hippy stores are frequented by the yoga pants wearing chicks though. The megastores are full of fat zombies; I'd pay extra just to not have to shop around them
ascii_butugychag: if i could grep a tomato, they would be entirely cleavable.
ascii_butugychag: and obviously we cannot dispense with provenance. but i must point out that it is a ~proxy~
ascii_butugychag: perhaps i'll hire PeterL to do it. ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: i would.
ascii_butugychag: i'm not buying rembrandts ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: when all i care about is taste and poison - the latter is objectively quantifiable
ascii_butugychag: this is the other thing, why should i give A FUCK about PROVENANCE
ascii_butugychag: i'm talking about actual, vs. claimed.
ascii_butugychag: i can buy 'organic' veggies, but it is MANDATORILY in a shop that also sells homeopathic cures.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 01:38:03; asciilifeform: e.g. there is no 'i don't care if the chicken ate gmo corn but please no antibiotic' shop
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i sure as fuck buy. but also understand that i am stuck paying for voodoo claptrap at the same time as the reduced poison, you cannot bid for them separately
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> i can't walk into a shop and buy 'gmo food', i can buy crud soaked in monsanto herbicide << this
ascii_butugychag: i can't walk into a shop and buy 'gmo food', i can buy crud soaked in monsanto herbicide