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mircea_popescu: sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. what's another mark add ? nothing at all, of course.
mircea_popescu: what's it win ? it wins land. how does the whole thing work ? young man of visible worth, who is a knight, gets asked "do you wish to go take X mark and be the marquess there ?"
mircea_popescu: no, thread was re optionality. ie, if x wants to do it.
mircea_popescu: this is not so. what lists random nobody keeps are his problem - neither case matters.
mircea_popescu: just because i could bomb city hall doesn't mean i may not register a church there. optionality is mine, all of it, without restraint. i can do both, if i feel like doing both.
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can fuck the girl in any hole i choose does not mean i am forbidding from asking her which hole itches today.
mircea_popescu: who says you need 600 ? church holds title to the land, can't be expropriated
mircea_popescu: the lulz @cat-v.org idiots are instructive in this field. what matters to the powerless is an exercise left for onanists.
mircea_popescu: and once you register an irc channel "it begins to matter how many heads you got". depends to whom.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to return to the caller : incorporated church has ~0 with more amount of headcount number.
mircea_popescu: nations exist where the father is not too cowardly to maintain discipline in the household.
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent satmar, of course, is named for satu mare, a small town in transylvania)
mircea_popescu: but, very much unlike the other groups usg hates, these survived a long while.
mircea_popescu: they opposed collegiate education for girls, as well as voting in israel etc. i dunno any group teh usg hates moar.
mircea_popescu recommends you read into the story of the satmar (bait : "If its schools in New York were a public school system, it would be the fourth-largest system in the state, after those of New York City, Buffalo and Rochester.")
mircea_popescu: somehow the st crispin speech never got through. classics be hard.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's this pervasive "surely you want more headcount, because headcount is a number and larger amounts of number is what everyone is all about".
mircea_popescu: i suppose historical bias. empire always fights the last war it lost and all that.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, this point upset teh empire recently. they really fucking imagined anyone WANTS the extras for some reason.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the difference is marked. stalin had to shoot people to make example, because otherwise village wanted to be with the other guys. i am on the contrary - very happy to see every last idiot leave. stalin needed peons to work the tank factory, which works on peons. the shit we did - more people are a liability not a benefit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in classical republicbuilding, your choice is either slaves, beaten weekly, ie best korea, or else taking it up in the ass, ie, rhodesia.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the hope is that we don't have the problem of the soviets, specifically because the republic has ~no problem with the idiots leaving to be with the usg&co.
mircea_popescu: so your practical choices are rather unpalatable either way.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that democracy is fundamentally going to become "modern" democracy, for this reason. the mass of stupid keeps accreting.
mircea_popescu: they call it "network effects", among the educated stupid, but really what it is - idiocy has no country. it's a thing, a substance, beyond identity.
mircea_popescu: the desire of warsaw pact to "be like in the west" had nothing to do with anything, and most pointedly had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with their pretensions and aspersions at the time (freedom, liberty, blabla). it was EXCLUSIVELY a case of "stupid lazy idiots over there! we wanna go!!1"
mircea_popescu: so : eiother you beat the girls for using facebook, or else you're stuck with facebook. because that's where the stupid is.
mircea_popescu: basically, stupid people are not people in any sense, but simply stupid. and they wish to be with their true brothers and sisters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is very much that the small country isn't swallowed up by the macdonalds. on the contrary : it swallows the macd.
mircea_popescu: well yes, by definition if works on and off now doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: note that this is a political stance, not a scholarly one.
mircea_popescu: i suspect a lot of the bombing enthusiasm past decade has to do with all that impotent rage bottled 1972-1980
mircea_popescu: hey, most of the infrastructure the us has been bombing all over the middle east past decade was put in place by romania. back when romanian extraction engineering was best in world, and haliburton couldn't compete for contracts, so ceausescu ended up with his own concessions which he serviced with his own boats and refined at midia near constanta.
mircea_popescu: all abstractions are ultimately compatible. this is required for their existence.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing known in nature as "incompatible abstractions"
mircea_popescu: gotta engage with what people say not with what you wanna talk about.
mircea_popescu: eh, cherrypicking. sure, and stakhanov was best ever coal miner.
mircea_popescu: su is and always was ~as productive as say turkey. orcland.
mircea_popescu: somehow they bought into the delusion that usd is money. and the chinese bought them with sweat. which turns out - is money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, was powered by selling self to china.
mircea_popescu: modern democracy, like previous democracies, reduce to this, yes. "life is great while burning the furniture for heat - free heat!"
mircea_popescu: moving over to china made the 90s, which were "best ever" and what trump wants to make again.
mircea_popescu: once that went away, the notion of nation lost any basis.
mircea_popescu: the ~only reason the concept of nation was politically relevant was because of periodicity of (pre-technological, pre-industrial) war.
mircea_popescu: can't distinguish frenchman, german, russian, etc. even in widely variant environment they build the same "plox to cuckold me" mentality.
mircea_popescu: the globalists/socialists/what have you got this much right, that it's ~meaningless to discuss "nations", seeing how people are universally the same pressed shitboard.
mircea_popescu: all the su stick produced was a horde of anal children. almost as if humans are all on the same mind, and even if you keep the borders locked and the sticks sticking, idiot ru citizen will mirror idiot eu citizen nevertheless
mircea_popescu: it's a great theory that failed spectacularly in the field.
mircea_popescu: you know, when they shot a dog in a bushel of wheat into space.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes, ru chicks would suck cock for tp, jeans, you name it. early 1990s, too.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in that sense the ukraine's been nothing but a famine.
mircea_popescu: phf no, they just didn't have fish at the fish shop ; the meat they didn't have at the meat shop.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one where ro minister of defense was like "lolz, what, you think i ran off to moscow ? these idiots have it worse than we do."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh that's a laughable notion. ru was starving even more than ro by 1985.
mircea_popescu: jurov yea, if you think the soviets had it rough in the 60s you are factually incorrect.
mircea_popescu: nah, the 60s worked. arguably su was above teh west for that brief period.
mircea_popescu: also in the 50s, of course, but then again that was mutually shared with the french, the germans, and all other idiots who bombed their shit.
mircea_popescu: yes, the world before america became great was truly a great place.
mircea_popescu: the littering comboship. leaves parts of itself all over the shore
mircea_popescu: i can only shudder in horror at the length of your buttexperimentalist.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : half warm water half white wine 1-2 pint enema best thing for loosening up noobie / us middle class white chick / general population nonslut.
mircea_popescu: except if she's been treating an anal tear, in which case her rectum is stopped by a very disturbing, bio-like gelatinous mass. sort-of like a buttctopus.