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mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Hey! I'm Ashley. I'm an 18 year old girl living in Houston,
TX who's in a bit of a financial bind at
the moment. I'm a senior in high school. I don't even have my drivers license or a ride
to work so it's not like I can get a normal job at
the moment."
trinque: command is a dumb string until
the OTP is confirmed, and
then gets parsed and certain
type demands are made of
the result
trinque: but, I would recommend a student go build his own by hand. doing so by reading my script would be fine, so long as you research every line
to understand why
that step was done.
trinque: idea is portage,
the gentoo package build system, is redone in V
trinque: but as dianan_coman observed,
the outside world moved, while
the
thing hadn't yet eaten enough of
the outside world.
mircea_popescu: douchebag
there's an almost-official gentoo version floating about, we're working
towards making it definitive.
trinque: this'd be why I didn't use
the floopy lisp for
the math (yes, could've done
the checks in floopy lisp, but.)
mircea_popescu: also if you manage
to upset
the developer's expectation javascript uses ints, it'll fail all sorta 4.9999998 = 5
tests
douchebag: I'll get on
that now, just got home from work
trinque: where's my report on
trb dependencies?
trinque: and wtf, pay negative, you
think I didn't handle
that?
douchebag: It also leads me
to wonder if
there are any race conditions in deedbot
douchebag: I actually have found
that in web applications before
douchebag: And if
the bot was checking if my balance is greater or equal
to
the value sent, it would obviously pass
douchebag: The idea was
that if
the bot subtracts
the value I send Ie: Balance - - 0.01 it would actually become balance + 0.01 because maths
douchebag: That's all
the
testing for
that matter
mircea_popescu: (as you might intuit, i was a
terror as a 5yo being introduced
to darwinism. "so why did
the other birdy quit ?" "well
the guy was bigger." "so ?" "so he's affraid of him." "why ?" "because he's bigger." "So what if he's bigger ? what could he do ? just flies around like an idiot" "could peck it" "so could
the smaller one!" and on and on.)
mircea_popescu: part and parcel of
the problem of postmodernity, and
the deep cause behind all
the superficiality, is
that nobody ever gets a run for his money. like in overadvanced (supercowardly) species,
the whole contest of life consists of display and nothing more.
phf: tmsr
tests your fuzzy numbers, it's where "plenty" becomes "~3-5" or more often
than not "none at all"
phf: it looks like i'm going
to wrap up
the rest of
the "replicate diff/patch"
this week, so
that'll also be
the
time
to start adding
the clever features
phf: mircea_popescu: let's revisit
this question in a couple of days, i'll give it some
thought
too. i want
to finish regrind in
the next day before hanbot is done with standing up her mp-wp instance
mircea_popescu: if you have
the
time i'll hussle you with annoying fundamental questions. if not, later.
mircea_popescu: phf
that's
the issue in my head, of no practical consequence as it is : why, exactly, different beast, and how ?
phf: mircea_popescu: it doesn't now,
there's no reason why it can't, diffing binaries is a different beast from
text diffing, so it's about adding a new kind of hunk/header formats
that say "this here follows a binary diff"
phf: there's an implicit inbandism in unified diff
though, which is
the requirement for diff
to be a POSIX "text file", so you still have arbitrary, and unknowably, large "lines"
phf: btw unified diff also follows
the same format. you can use @@ ... @@
to know exactly when your hunk ends (see
the vpatch code)
mircea_popescu: it's not even
the
timewaste per se, it's
the subjective relation
to it.
phf: asciilifeform: well you followed an established
tmsr solution
to inbandism, state
the counts before you present
the count.
mircea_popescu: it's just... jesus christ i am at a loss
to comprehend what
the problems involved are. fuck me, i'm working on an ai sex bot
to fetlife ? really ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: bet you
the dood even read it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems
to me a correctly designed and properly implemented version of
trinque 's original doodle, which he summarily described as "bundle all files
together and hash"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: just... why
the fuck! "i am an intelligent fellow. i have
these dumbells on my feet ; and
this loudspeaker screaming in my ears". dude...
mircea_popescu: and so you check
the dood's bio, and "I currently work at Ozlo, where we’re building an AI-powered digital assistant. Previously, I worked at Firebase, a scalable realtime application backend. Before
that, I worked on a wide range of experimental projects
to improve
the web at Mozilla Labs."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile otherplaces, "shared libraries are obviously a good idea until you’ve actually used
them.
then whether it’s obvious or not
that
they’re a bad idea is mostly a matter of how close you are
to
trying
to get
them
to work." such a great share
that anant
thing.
phf: mircea_popescu: we're on
the same page
mircea_popescu: yes,
the idea was
to make a "reorg" patch separately if you're going
to move files about.
mircea_popescu: file a/hurr/durr.txt hash aba1 matches file b/hurr/hurr.txt hash aba1, durr.txt was renamed as hurr.txt (renaming and moving are, like norton commander correctly identified,
the SAME op. it's all a namechange.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the logged discussion on
the
topic was, "if hashes match but paths do not,
the file was moved ; if hashes match and paths match,
the file is untouched ; if hashes do not match but paths match
the file was modified ; if hashes do not match and paths do not match
the file was created/deleted"
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: gns:mircea/writings/trilema/categories/ is just about
the only way
to corectly refer
to
the item.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
the only problem is
that i suspect
the unix notion of filenames (if ~properly~ regarded, ie, full paths) is actually entirely correct, and how gns will have
to work anyway.
mircea_popescu: "all files are identified by hashes of
their (proper) name and content" and all
that.
mircea_popescu: at which juncture i suppose it'd pay
to check, huh. hey phf, my memory of logs discussion includes
this item whereby
the above problem was fully resolved by declaring
the path as inseparable part of
the filename. you on
the same page ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is where we admit
that while
the alternative solution presented passes on
technical merits, nevertheless
the
thing it's an alternative
to has much better political support. i ~want~
to require people
to say a word about
their patch, for human eyes.
mircea_popescu: (i get it, i get it, you use
the republican-standard declare-size cut method. yes yes.)
mircea_popescu: basically you add all files into a
temp
together, space-separated ?
mircea_popescu: ah. so
then get
the whet back and see from
there. maybe new vdiff is ready ; if not and you want
to march you can apply spyked's patch on
the extant codebase as published by phf, if i understand correctly
that should fix your problem.
the diffs you produce with
the
thing
thereby compiled will work with later restared vdiff
too.
hanbot: was given hosting keyfob yest. evening, will be getting whet.net back
today/tomorrow
mircea_popescu: hanbot atm phf is re-grinding his vdiff
to include histfile and afaik you didn't have hosting ? did
that meanwhile resolve ?
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu: people are wanting
to get an mp-wp --is my understanding of
the situation correct, ie proablem i had with making vdiff --> proablem with v itself --> folks are reformulating
these?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'on installment' << Rebound effect is normal only when you go beyond
three applications.
This is more spackiling over
the acute phase.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc
that created
the problem it cured ? << Well,
temporarily aggrevated
the problem it
treats
mircea_popescu: usg medicine is very much like usg "technology" aka web development : "hey, it seems
to work!"
trinque: just remove whatever your body didn't want
there, and
that's
that
trinque: neti pot and salt water works better
than anything