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asciilifeform: jurov: i worked with mingw for some years.
mod6: polarbeard: I apprecate your offer to work on the Reference Implementation, but before you get too far along you need to reconcile that -1 from ben.
jurov: i know about cygwin, but never tried to apply
asciilifeform: (i am about as far from the project as could be imagined)
asciilifeform: i was even under the impression that the eulora build process was microshit-free
mircea_popescu: i dun recall what it was
asciilifeform: i will develop ~for~ nintendo, if the money is right. but no amount of money is pay enough for developing ON a nintendo.
asciilifeform: the funny part is that i have written REAMS of code for winblowz.
asciilifeform: i would much rather trade the computer for a pencil.
thestringpuller: Working on a winblowz box is the worst experience ever. I did so for 1.5 years writing JBoss web applets. Everyone thought "Oh you can run the dev environment in windows, well you're crazy. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS" to which I would revolt saying, "Your development process is insane which is why you spent 2.5 mil bringing in AGILE consultants to reduce your bottom line, which didn't fix any of the real problems."
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i can work on an apple box, with a good bit of sweat. i cannot work on a winblowz box.
BingoBoingo: I use dreamhost for thedrinkingrecord. It's cost controlled and don't get surprise bills when DDoS
mircea_popescu: fancy that coincidence, i just had a pile of sushi myself.
danielpbarron: i'll look into it when i get back to real computer; i'm at a sushi bar atm
danielpbarron: hosting i can do myself, but the wordpress i found kinda sucks
mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> is the tweet deleted? i took screenshots of the pgpgram << it would be. pgp BURNSSSS teh usterrorists.
danielpbarron: i was gonna ask BingoBoingo what he uses; i'm tryin to get a blog up as well
LquidNinjaAssets: I am in the wot
LquidNinjaAssets: It doesn't really matter, I was just looking for some #b-a advice on who to use as a hosting service if I wanted to start a no frills blog...
danielpbarron: is the tweet deleted? i took screenshots of the pgpgram
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 19:46:52; mircea_popescu: marginally speaking, if i take random user's ipad and replace it with another ipad, random user'd never know.
polarbeard: yeah, for now I'm just adding timestamps, classification prefixes and fixing messages, without adding extra logging points
jurov: i'll gladly forward. cascadia surely needs some gypsies to improve diversity
mircea_popescu: "i dunno, man, that's just what my bitcoin does" "it shouoldn't do that" "how do you know ?" "because..."
mircea_popescu: marginally speaking, if i take random user's ipad and replace it with another ipad, random user'd never know. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: well no, but i believe that i understand your point.
mircea_popescu: "i know this isn't X, because Y".
mircea_popescu: but think about it. suppose i loan you one of my slavegirls, and you bring her back, except you bring me back a different woman.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but none of these are the core of the matter. suppose you buy one, and i give you another.
ben_vulpes: a glib answer'd be "because steve died", a more pragmatic one "because they don't compile the bitcoin reference implementation", but i don't think either of those are what you're thinking.
ben_vulpes: I personally don't understand the reasons beyond "it's the right thing to do with the reference implementation, dummy. also, fuck drepper."
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 15:19:27; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384035 << this is lulzy in re: how i recently had to set up a complete orchestra on an apple box
mircea_popescu: http://warontherocks.com/2016/01/killing-anwar-targeting-jihadi-propagandists-is-only-part-of-the-solution/ << in other lulzy lulz, from the "lalala i can't hear you" files.
mircea_popescu: polarbeard "I'd get it one piece at a time. And it wouldn't cost me a dime..."
mircea_popescu: ie, "i say whore because she won't fuck me" vs "i say whore because whatevs"
asciilifeform: i thought the stereotypical whoredom is to go, at the drop of a hat, to where it smells of moar money ?!
mircea_popescu: and so... i'm not particularly curious.
mircea_popescu: i see it lots with online hos, you'd think that if you got easy money once, you'd never leave that place. but not so if you KNOW you're not worth anyone's time, deep down.
asciilifeform: originally i thought that it would have to be a gentoo vm, but turns out that one can actually build a genuine toolchain there ! and it runs...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i personally don't. there's a common disease of whores (and no, programmers aren't fundamentally anything else). it manifests like so : should a wolf find a delicious morsel, it will neglect it oft to the point of just letting it sit while it draws a perimeter around and inspects for whence it came for and MOAR. meanwhile, a mouse that found a morsel will grab it and run, never to return.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 07:46:51; ben_vulpes: it is weekends like this that make me reconsider how i spent my youth as a misspend, when i see trinque and asciilifeform with usable professional non apple toolchains
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384035 << this is lulzy in re: how i recently had to set up a complete orchestra on an apple box ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 10:08:30; ben_vulpes: http://jezebel.com/britney-spears-good-at-math-1747547324 << i have examined this and found it lulzy
asciilifeform: i'd much like to hear what the man has to say for himself.
asciilifeform: in principle, i like the lightweight, pedigreed, and 'hackable on' bsd family, e.g., netbsd. but imho openbsd is something that probably needs to be helped die ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can haz emacs without dbus ~here~
asciilifeform: thing is, at least the way i understood it, the whole ~point~ of openbsd was as a fortress against poetteringization. and it appears to be in ruins, based on above
asciilifeform: if he wants to maintain a parallel universe, and it doesn't in any serious way inconvenience the actual universe, i will say only kind things.
asciilifeform: i tried...
asciilifeform: so i won't maintain for it.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 14:39:04; mircea_popescu: phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384135 << i have an openbsd box. but i haven't booted it in over a year, and can't bring myself to. because it is FUCKING LOATHESOME: ☝︎
asciilifeform: ah i finally parsed the thing correctly, when he wrote 'talked that night' it was probably not in the flesh
mircea_popescu: "she would never take a left on west 83rd at 6pm on a tuesday. i know this on the basis of her $word starwars."
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i do envy everyone the vast panoply of device families apparently covered.
ben_vulpes: i only had the opportunity to test it recently, failed to even build prerequsites and so cannot sign it. i also do not intend to build another openbsd system in the immediate future.
ben_vulpes: http://jezebel.com/britney-spears-good-at-math-1747547324 << i have examined this and found it lulzy ☟︎
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383855 << I haven't had any problems using custom datadirs ☝︎
punkman: I suspect that using the plog library (after some win32-snipping) would remove more lines than it adds
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/gZxnXJu.jpg
mircea_popescu: phf i think you're reading too much into it.
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, so i wouldn't say not welcome, but since neither patch was given a courtesy of a smooth transition, i assumed that neither are seen as particularly important. спасение утопающих дело рук самих утопающих (tm) (r)
pete_dushenski: i'm out. cheers !
BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/8jQls63.jpg
mircea_popescu: i guess that makes sense.
phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly ☟︎☟︎
phf: basically the patch being dropped created bunch of work for me, that i don't have bandwidth to pursue. (i.e. produce a v version, test on stator)
phf: one of the features of the openbsd patch is that it should build cleanly on linux, i.e. naive build or a stator build. i did a naive build that work, while i was developing, but since i assume it was not included in stator i can't speak to that.
phf: well, first v release was migrated by ascii, with all the patches signed by him, i think later mod6 signed his?
mircea_popescu: anyway, do i get the impression you got the impression your patches aren't welcome or something ?
mircea_popescu: i think the migration was done by patch authors rly.
phf: mircea_popescu: well, openbsd and timestamp are written in old diff format, their migration was not done by foundation when majority of patches were moved to vdiff. i interpreted that move as the patches not being needed and an invitation to perform migration myself.
pete_dushenski: that being said, i've always thought that version numbers should "roll over" at a certain point. not like mac os8 went 43372 sub-versions before macos 9 showed up. eh. i guess it really doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: phf how can it be dropped i dont get this ?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: it's been an alternative scheme for as long as i can remember
ben_vulpes: phf: i have a hunch that it was my boost compiles that were failing.
ben_vulpes: pick a side i said.
ben_vulpes: shit, i even reconsider the /past three years/ of toolchain investment on weekends like this.
ben_vulpes: it is weekends like this that make me reconsider how i spent my youth as a misspend, when i see trinque and asciilifeform with usable professional non apple toolchains ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ftr i /have done this/
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i tried 14 for a few days. couldn't believe how laggy it was. haven't tried 10 (or whatever the b-a approved one was)
ben_vulpes: guruvan: i am not running my primary os in a container, thank you very much.
pete_dushenski: the old osen come with their own limitations, however, like not being able to render random websites, eg. http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/14/they-dont-print-paper-catalogues-anymore-everythings-on-their-website/ (oakley's - which i only ever managed to use on... ios8 ipad)
ben_vulpes: that is how desperate i am to get off of os x.
ben_vulpes: no you know what i have one more fence to piss upon
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 03:19:03; mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/util.cpp#0771 << this doesn't actually work, i've seen gb+ debug.logs
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383805 << i saw 2+ gb just from a couple of failed trb build attempts. it was like 2.7 gigs iirc. "bitcoin is not for the poor (who can't afford hd space)" (tm) (r) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: i don't think anything drove me more nutso when using 10.8 than the inability to find a file in a folder you ~just~ placed it in moments earlier.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383609 << in my own aforementioned article. thankfully, archive.is has a pretty healthy stock of tlp. (not that i found any other broken links there lately) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i think those shit-spreaders were less of a 'freegan' and more of a 'let's see what it's like to be derpizens of the great nation of afrika'. fwiw.
ben_vulpes: but i think i need to recompile the kernel
ben_vulpes: i mean some bits of it work
ben_vulpes: either that or i'm living a week in the future somehow
mircea_popescu: lol derp, "this thing that happened shows that this thing i presume is correct because reasons so ergo!"
ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/24/drones-sono-finiti/#footnote_1_6779 << i swear to god i read this elsewhere recently
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383497 << "excuse me sir, i have an ear infucktion. i cunt hear you." ☝︎
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hackin | hackin'. a different way to say freakin/fuckin. its an adjective. fred on youtube uses it a lot. Fred: Hey, it's Fred! And I'm really hackin' mad right now because Judy ...
ben_vulpes: nah all i need is the display manager, i'm going to use emacs for window mgmt
ben_vulpes: for once in my short life i would like to not piss on a fence.