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pete_dushenski: "not
a single woman less" << exactly subject of last contravex. city here goes through whole charade trying to prevent bridge jumpers... off one one single bridge
mircea_popescu: no reports in the press, of course, they're too busy discussing how "not
a single woman less" because totally, they're killing to many women around here, appartently.
pete_dushenski:
a husband and wife working are greater than the sum of their parts in argenmaths
mircea_popescu: i would say about 80% of individual holders in the city hold their property as unpriviledged creditors of
a company they do not control.
mircea_popescu: re the apts lulz : understand that the >4x price differential relates to
a 40% surface area differential. somehow.
pete_dushenski: and alf thought just ustards were materially wealthy without any culture worth the mention. look ! it's
a worldwide sensation ! like justin bieber !
trinque: not like I'd claim victory in that one just yet either, but it's
a thing
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: can't seem to dig up the neo bee pic in question atm, but at least i now have
a mental image of it with which to scan the archives. not sure i've ever seen the original even once, however.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nah, they were seated at
a table, names in greek script on papers in front
trinque: I find it far more likely that such
a bent mind blows through whatever pile he amasses because he's as dishonest inwardly as outwardly
trinque: I would like to hear an example of
a scammer that was capable of holding onto capital.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of
a shit about buterin myself, yet another amir taaki, like the antonoderp (- did he do neo bee btw ? )
mircea_popescu: i'd link
a famous ro play on the topic, but i fear i'm overdoing the obscure romanian stuff.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 22:03:01; asciilifeform: well all i have is the fact (rumour?) that there is this kid who organized
a mega-scam for usg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and has (? had ?) control of
a good chunk of btc << we did this entire thread when you thought leah goodman is set for lyf, and then we did it when bb started exposing the lulzy state of gawker contributors compensations, and so on.
mircea_popescu: that may be true or not, but it's really irrelevant - i'm not interchangeable with the people i call idiots. meanwhile im sure intestinal worms, if i managed to get them, would live
a happier life than him, and that IS relevant, because he IS interchangeable with my putative intestinal worms.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 21:25:38; Anduck: mircea_popescu: remember, the people who you call 'idiots' may be living
a happier life than you
mircea_popescu: programmers make the funniest whores, i swear. rarely have i seen actual call girls sitting around in the limo earnestly deploring their fate as compared to the toothless scamp collapsed in
a dirty heap in the back alley.
mircea_popescu: dude does all the work three midlevel project managers in
a shitty thirld world country wanna-be second hand tech firm do. you perceive this as "not have to work", on the grounds that he doesn't seem to mind it.
pete_dushenski: mno. and nor do i want to memorialise the actual co with
a log mention
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i now see that this 'fancy' water bottle is built the same way - double stainless steel wall with vacuum - so it's essentially
a smaller, ligther duty thermos. such innovation !
phf: thermos has
a vacuum chamber
pete_dushenski: babies are
a lot like drunks : shit pants, mutter incomprehensibly, can't walk straight
pete_dushenski: also
a thermos is 2x weight of water bottle. different beast really. like macbook air and og mac portable.
jurov: or whatitscalled,
a teat?
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 20:50:38; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414273 << indeed. apparently there are the $40 water bottles that are now all the rage. i only discovered them at 'organic grocer' last week, vommited in mouth
a bit at the mere prospect of such an object at such
a price, only to discover that they're on every desk and every gym bag already.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 21:09:39; mircea_popescu: but once this is done, the "network outside of gossipd" becomes
a mere fiction.
phf: i always thought of it as more of
a backchannel, i.e. there's the dead drops with their own rules of engagement and then there's also the mail you get in post.
mircea_popescu: and as
a more general point : we aren't sealing ourselves off in an ideal world (see the "island of Bitcoin" / "let's get
a geographical unit started" threads throughout log history). we are simply constructing indefeatable corruption.
phf: will b-
a node, once gossip enabled make connections that are not routed over gossip?
mircea_popescu: but once this is done, the "network outside of gossipd" becomes
a mere fiction.
☟︎ phf: well
a gossip connection is already
a secret handshake, even if it's not wot rated,
a concept of trust can be applied to it, even if negatively. it's
a backchannel for b-
a node communication
mircea_popescu: and this is not merely
a discussion of nodes in terms of internet ips. this is
a discussion of everything. usg can not currently know which of its agents is closer to me than to washington. closer to their wife than to washington. closer to their purse,
a la force, than to washington.
mircea_popescu: it is
a solution to make that epsilon unknowable to any degree of certainty, by anyone.
mircea_popescu: and gossipd is specifically not
a solution to hermetically seal the network.
mircea_popescu: for all you know, i peer with
a "network at large" node, making it thus trb-node-one-removed.
phf:
a gossip solution is to hermetically seal the network, but some nodes presumably still need to talk to elsewhere, i.e. not l1 or l2, those are the ones that still have to deal with spam transactions
mircea_popescu: ie, you become an unpriviledged creditor of theirs, and that's that. if they go bankrupt in
a decade, you lose the house.
phf: l1 or l2 runs trb, where behavior can be improved. better sync mechanisms, bandwidth/cpu conservative network activity, etc. anyone in the wot can also be punished for abuse, i.e. if asciilifeform starts sending me gigs of bogus transactions, and it's not
a test and he can't be reasoned with, etc.
mircea_popescu: phf is your definition of "network at large" as "all those ips that are not connected to
a node connected to someone in l2" ?
phf: well, it's
a technical capability, like roads or email. bitcoin is hosted on
a subtrate of tcpip, question is can
a b-
a node accept packets that come from outside the wot and on what terms.
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414273 << indeed. apparently there are the $40 water bottles that are now all the rage. i only discovered them at 'organic grocer' last week, vommited in mouth
a bit at the mere prospect of such an object at such
a price, only to discover that they're on every desk and every gym bag already.
☝︎☟︎ phf: i can't figure out if "there's no network at large" is
a semantic point or
a technical one. or is the claim that
a semantic point makes technical conversation irrelevant?
mircea_popescu: the lone ranger gets
a lot of excuses later fellows do not.
mircea_popescu: if folks in the settled territory keep on living there, not even put up
a fucking log barn ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, man. if
a guy makes
a shitty camp during indian assault, it's one thing.
mircea_popescu: if you're particularly inclined to act as
a propaganda agent for prb, you may make that wholly unsubstantiated, ridiculous claim.
mircea_popescu: no, actually you know for
a fact 95% of miners were not running prb back last year, because of the fork thing.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "all americans are poor, everyone i see in grand central station is wearing shitty cloth shoes and
a cheap tshirt"
mircea_popescu: i might as well hold painting contests for
a jar of fruit flies.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 13:49:05; asciilifeform: (massive 'commitees' of high-ranking amateurs are routinely beaten to
a pulp by
a single pro player, in collective games)
trinque: federal courthouse I think, with
a platform atop for human sacrifice, I can only assume
trinque: actually, there is
a rather imposing federal building in downtown Portland
trinque: from texas, spent
a good amount of time in oregon