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asciilifeform: so i sent it off with a few very basic examples.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388189 << i must say also that this is not why i wrote it, originally. this was an attempt at an online debugger, so i can interactively play with tx in mempool, issue db queries, etc. ☝︎☟︎
jurov: not anything serious, just throwing some ideas.. looks like this needs to be revisited only when I encounter the situation actually :D
punkman: I think it'd be best to name the 2nd patch mempool_frobsv2.vpatch or something like that
jurov: and upon feedback i redo it, should i just repost with same name?
jurov: say i post mempool_frobs.vpatch
polarbeard: ftr, I've updated the gist, will send the patch to the ml later
Uglux: I'm not new but full of ideas ;)
jurov: I know that i should manage the repository myself, but imo a version field would be good to have so that I can easily spot if someone posts revised version of the same patch. ☟︎
jurov: btw, while i'm on it: mod6, does V have any notion of "updates" and "reground" patches? ☟︎
polarbeard: I appreciate the suggestion, I'll just finish ensuring each line has priority and category and I'll submit then
polarbeard: thanks, I'll wait a bit for reviews I think
jurov: polarbeard: i've updated ml, you can now post to btc-dev
punkman: (by filter I meant "don't save these lines", but I guess still useful when you are grepping or scanning with your eyes)
punkman: that said, I'm not sure any trb users will actually want to filter on <priority>
polarbeard: yes, you're right, I'll add priority and category in each line, thanks for the observation
polarbeard: punkman: I wanted to categorize the information before prioritizing but it makes sense, in fact some server software (mongodb for instance) does this with double prefixes using this format: <timestamp> <priority> <category> <message>
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 08:13:49; ben_vulpes: definitely split the actual muntzing out into its own patch instead of complecting it with the rest of the work. i might be able to read and meditate on that patch.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: do i still fail to make myself clear?
ben_vulpes: definitely split the actual muntzing out into its own patch instead of complecting it with the rest of the work. i might be able to read and meditate on that patch. ☟︎
polarbeard: if not that's fine, I built it for me, the categorization was a nice idea from mp, though
polarbeard: somebody has to review it anyway, so I'll wait for any interest
ben_vulpes: "this 2.6kloc patch rewrites every log line in the reference implementation, in support of further work i'm doing on" etc etc ☟︎
ben_vulpes: hell, submit it to the ml for posterity, i believe you have the wot rating for that.
polarbeard: I just felt it was fair to anounce its existence
ben_vulpes: the problem with a patch of this size is that my face wearies of reading myriad log lines changed for seemingly aesthetic reasons, and i fear that even a close read will miss an underhanded c contestant.
polarbeard: it truly is, as what value it has, it's just a step into better debugging capabilities, for this patch I've not added new log lines on purpose but I plan doing it for the next
ben_vulpes: and for what it's worth i actually like seeing the function names in the logs. i know i could just grep for the log messages, but it's another way to get familiar with the codebase.
ben_vulpes: that is a lot of delta to review for i don't precisely know what value
polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: AND I SHALL LOL
ben_vulpes: verily, i live in the modern windows.
ben_vulpes: and lo a url i was just looking at in chrome on the phone opens in chrome on the browser
ben_vulpes: i click this chrome icon out of a morbid fascination
ben_vulpes: so today i open my bezzleputer, and discover a SECOND DOCK
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i always found the toy election thing mega-lulzy
mod6: i'll give it a go as soon as I get the soba out and test the PVS.
asciilifeform: (and yes i will re-grind the ts genesis later. it needs to be re-based to add up to patch 1 above, also)
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma post the whole thing. i don't mind re-grinding later if necessary.
mod6: i've got a release vpatch up my sleeve, but no email ready for that or anything. that's coming within a number of days I suspect. but probably after the 1st.
asciilifeform: mod6: done yet? ... i am.
mod6: i haven't even touched it yet.
mod6: i need to test PVS a bit more actually tho.
mod6: i did.
mircea_popescu: i thought you pretty much had all three lined up for it, no ?
asciilifeform: i do not even know if this thing is fit for release..!
mod6: ok you should probably wait to run vdiff against the changes until i've got the release patch out then, so you can start from there.
asciilifeform: i don't mind re-grinding periodically it if it becomes v-orphaned.
mod6: im thinking that i'm gonna tag the release, and publish the release patch soon. just hoping that if any of it touches trb, that it'll be post-release patch so there are no conflicts.
mod6: (so far, i didn't see any that did)
asciilifeform: soooo i'm nearly done with the megaturd.
asciilifeform: i guess i ~was~ dreaming
asciilifeform: am i dreaming ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387980 <<< as it happened to have been started in these very logs... i guess he must've. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 21:26:18; PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is a hard limit to total storage space?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387911 << yet it is my principal skill. teh intimates often can't believe just how talented i am at it! ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/28/letter-to-timothy-b-lee-senior-editor-at-vox-com/#comment-39853 << best comment i've received in a while.
pete_dushenski: i'm sure you do.
Linus_: pete_dushenski: Hey, that is a nice PGP tutorial. I also recommend GPA (Gnu Privacy Assistant) to beginners.
ascii_butugychag: do i even want to know.
ascii_butugychag: 'Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) by means of ECDH or DH Kex ... opmsg builds fine with any of the OpenSSL, LibreSSL and BoringSSL...' << i've read enough.
ascii_butugychag: ftr i worked with folks from india for many years
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/bVwAsN.png
PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is a hard limit to total storage space? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I only remember it because I am good at forgetting other things.
pete_dushenski: well your memory is better than mine cuz i'd forgotten all about it. lost in the sea of drama noise.
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2014 20:45:34; BingoBoingo: "This was my fault. While I don't think it's impossible to fairly cover Bitcoin while also holding some Bitcoins, the reason to make these rules blunt and general, rather than nuanced and specific, is to ensure there's no question about the motivations of the underlying coverage."
pete_dushenski: i think i got confoozed by the 300 bn dollar valuation. numbers and facebook just don't have meaning anymore.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: looks like i was indeed off my a single letter on that fb piece.
felipelalli: I didn't know anything about it, just opened the newspaper now and saw. Wow.
thestringpuller: i guess in context of secret drug dealers organizing to do hood rat shit, best method. But don't see what use of them using our keyids to identify our WoT, when that's you know...publicly available.
thestringpuller: aha. I see. wouldn't advance method be using disposable keys? (like burner cell phones)?
ascii_butugychag: at any rate, i find it far more enraging that (incl. this same rag) is repeating the nonsense re: go being solved
ascii_butugychag: and i would love to be proven wrong about this.
ascii_butugychag: this is trivial for, e.g., otp, but - i suspect provably - a no-go for anything else, esp. anything asymmetric.
mod6: ya, i got it.
mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> mod6: i actually re-sent a correct one last night, it vanished. << oh the entire message was snarfed?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, sounds like typical vc spew. "oh these powers that be, preventing us from ruining this thing!!1"
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: I'll post them for amusement in a bit.
ascii_butugychag: jurov: aha! ok i get it
jurov: ascii_butugychag: i'll try to explain third time: if you sent same clearsigned message second time, it discarded it
thestringpuller: I love how mircea_popescu is always mentioned in the slack logs for bitcoin core. The irony being that he doesn't pay them any attention.
thestringpuller: i guess I'll go through that to find out why.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: i fucking hate email.
ascii_butugychag: mod6: i actually re-sent a correct one last night, it vanished.
thestringpuller: once I'm up to sync, i'll patch that in and restart the node
mod6: shinohai tried to play with the command line flags but had some trouble. this isn't resolved yet. i was going to try those out myself, but I have had other fish to fry first.
mod6: i think it will, as long as I can get it tested. i haven't played with that one at all, other than compiling and running with it -- gives a version of 99999 by default.
shinohai: ;;later tell danielpbarron searched for eulora pass, still no luck I'll get with ya when I get an account sorted.
mircea_popescu: dude why the fuck am i even reading this. pfff.
mircea_popescu: "I am not kidding. I wrote the book on that."
mircea_popescu: anyway, his discussion of oil is pretty much afield. for one thing, inventories are way the fuck up (tho i don't expect he has an inkling of a clue as to how to look it up, and besides - so much easier to pronounce stupid shit), and deliveries are actually stalled by the buyers!
mircea_popescu: meh i mean highschool.
mircea_popescu: i regard my principal education in college being this.
mircea_popescu: see, my reaction isn't "this doesn't look like what i'm used to see". my reaction is "this looks specifically like what someone'd make that has no idea".
asciilifeform: except that i get same comments on my computing bl0g
asciilifeform: i have not read it, can't bring myself to.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has a point in that i have no idea how many 'anyones' are even left.
asciilifeform: aha i recall
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:11:16; lobito: i can name you many