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mircea_popescu: but why call it gcc if you don't aim to actually bury rms's folly ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 18:37 ave1: btw, turns out AdaCore have implemented support for crapple IOS (arm 64 + macho) in their gcc, this cannot be found in fsf gcc's. But needs #ifs and #ifdefs, one line was #ifdef MACHO_TARGET, but should have been #if.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793620 << is it just me not comprehending how there can be two "g"ccs ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: notably, bridget fonda's role in this world. (she gets shot in the stomach for it, most satisfyingly.)
mircea_popescu: like the white girls in blacksploitation media products, there to impart status upon the "noble barbarians:"
mircea_popescu: nobody ever fucks the bridge bunnies, huh.
asciilifeform: well also it had the admixture of protestant 'propriety' and (for lack of fitting word)... ordnung
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform star trek philosophy is, after all (as iirc you aptly pointed out), "everyone wears this pantsuit". thassit.
asciilifeform: catch one and plug'im into the mains, and you'll find out many surprises, e.g. that mathematics 'is what the calculator does', philosophy is 'something to do with genders of transgressed boundaries or somesuch poppycock', history 'i went to school like errybody else and learned how we allied with germany against ussr' (actual quote from americaness asciilifeform actually fucked) and i could continue butwhy.
mircea_popescu: it's not that "the programming language without recursion hasn't been found yet". is that it's not possible to have one. replace history and society in there, same deal.
mircea_popescu: yes, im starting to suspect that's the key. "los pueblos sin historia son condenados al fracaso".
asciilifeform: ... and exactly the same, for this exact reason
asciilifeform: 0 connection with actual human intellectual tradition, complete innocence of philosophy/mathematics/history(of any period whatsoever)
mircea_popescu: yes ; but then you look at the "right" as understood in the us, weirdo fringe groups built around "religion" in the sense of charismatic personality, and they're in no sense different EITHER.
asciilifeform: the operative item is not which-sphere, but that they live on one another's shit
mircea_popescu: im not so directly convinced that is the problem, seeing how you should see the latinas. they eat nothing but spanglosphere, and it's ~similar.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 17:42 TomServo: I expect MP will love "Software should be written for programmers, which means the code is the documentation,"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793570 << lmao. because children imagine "being a programmer" is having magical powers. somehow "being a cook" doesn't come in their head with a "food automatically makes itself around you", on the basis of direct experience with the mcdonalds fries counter. but "programmer" still means you magically intuit what the shit idiotic assumptions every mcdonalds employee baked into the "codebase". ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every single, without exception, cave of urbit/suckmore/etc 'neets' that's been dug up so far, smells ~exactly the same to me . and imho neither surprising nor really avoidable, this is rather like those squirrels that live in american cities, that eat garbage, who is surprised that they all have scurvy in same way
mircea_popescu: but in other news of about same importance and entertainment value, kingdom rush frontiers from ironhide games is fucking amiga hard. holy hell what have these people done!
mircea_popescu: anyway, gotta do more work on the camouflage, by the time i can get "status is nothing" aka "we are just as pantsuit as any other pantsuit outfit" within five lines...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'we'll breed 9000 mircea_popescus out of fungal broth and no one will ever find his way to the original one! genius' << Part of what keeping the blog counters
mircea_popescu: the problem with idiocy is that once you go there you kinda become captive. they actually imagine the situation is ~i~ need more people, not the other fucking way around. because "headcount is everything" hurr durr.
asciilifeform: 'we'll breed 9000 mircea_popescus out of fungal broth and no one will ever find his way to the original one! genius'
BingoBoingo: It worked when they did it to the black panthers
mircea_popescu: this bright okhrana idea resulted in a very shot tsar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's amusing how http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#selection-117.0-121.619 still very much applies. so basically what, they're going to fragment the republic into little irrelevant shards full of really stuborn / ingroup-loyal otakus as a path to survival ? lulzk.
BingoBoingo: Well, scared enough Bloomberg is hailing the arrival of Soros to "crypto" today
mircea_popescu: pretty sure they know who we are, in the very strict sense of "i've spent my past six months having nightmares with these doods"
mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rjtFr/?raw=true << lolz. teh usg is very, very affraid, made EVEN COOLER alt-tmsr!!! it'll work as well as all the cooler bitcoins it made to date NO DOUBT1!11
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 17:35 phf: they are more of a suckless spinoff
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793557 << a yeah, codemadness dood is there. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it strikes me how strictly identical to early urbit this thing is. same sort of socialist revolution aggitated "building the future" can barely contain selves on chair sorta vibe.
mircea_popescu: the way dept of state "think tanks" imagine creating "moderate rebel" leadership works is you have a fake one to protect the real one like a skirting.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes my read is that __20h__ is ~bob beck in the outfit.
mircea_popescu: "<Evil_Bob> C-Keen: read the fucking backlog, im not going to repeat myself" lol. perhaps the idea is that one's required to maintain connection as a show of loyalty. a soert of "mining" if you will.
BingoBoingo: How many men has the bitreich sent south to carve out their safe space?
ben_vulpes: "This is forbidden and will be punished." in response to my asking if they kept logs
mircea_popescu: is c-keen character the candidate mp i nthe space then ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how'd they have seen such logs ?
hanbot: latest in mp-wp saga: spyked's patch on vtools let me gpr build the phf's patcher and vdiff, latter of which made a genesis, former of which dies on pressing wiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2IVPp/?raw=true ☟︎
ben_vulpes: called our logs "insane" and "good source of entropy" if you can imagine the cheek
mircea_popescu: o this is a thing ?
TomServo: I can't believe I guessed correctly what she meant before the reveal. Namespace dyslexia somehow clued me.
trinque: wahaha, that's pretty good.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/medicine-tactics/ << Trilema - Medicine Tactics
BingoBoingo: Last one here was in 2016 out in Rocha where the lobos marinos live
BingoBoingo: Also apparently Uruguay has tornados now https://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/sociedad/tromba-sorprendio-manana-rambla.html
ave1: asciilifeform, yes I know, I've not tried to separate AdaCore's ada from AdaCore's gcc backend (to FSF gcc backend). AdaCore's gcc backend has significant canges from FSF. As this would be an interesting experiment, I will put it on the list (other thing to do, is put Ada 2017 on top of gcc 4.9.4 instead of 7.x)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The figure claimed leaves lots of room for comfort
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: keep in mind that the figure claimed concerns the included turdroid or whatever it comes with. in practice we do not know whether proper linux would work similarly. somebody will have to try.
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of esthlos from 3 to 2 << met for sushi
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Battery life on the rockchip portable looks VERY appealing
asciilifeform: ave1: abolishing the standard library would make it quite painless to port gnat to anything to which gcc already has a backend. but as it is, the existence of crappla gnat doesn't help us any, the abi is completely different
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of hanbot from 3 to 4 << lighting the fire under republican asses
ave1: btw, turns out AdaCore have implemented support for crapple IOS (arm 64 + macho) in their gcc, this cannot be found in fsf gcc's. But needs #ifs and #ifdefs, one line was #ifdef MACHO_TARGET, but should have been #if. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 17:50 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for your peace of mind, i intend to publish qntra report once mpex proxies back online, seems rather silly otherwise. not forgotten or mothballed or anything.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793578 << Kinda what I figured. I remember last time the proxies went on strike there were forensics involved. Most of my worries atm concern being surrounded by the sort of Rustic so called salt of the earth Italians that they put in the background of Gringo tourism marketing ☝︎
danielpbarron: !!rate hanbot 4 lighting the fire under republican asses
a111: Logged on 2018-04-05 20:22 asciilifeform: ave1: your gnat builder barfs 40 minutes in, incidentally, with the following death : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ftgUL/?raw=true ( last n lines )
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793340, yes I realized last night, I've been working on fixing it. I found the first problem, now onto the next (etc.) ☝︎
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of BingoBoingo from 2 to 3 << pizarro isp, qntra chief editor
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of mod6 from 3 to 4 << pizarro isp, bitcoin foundation
mircea_popescu: eventually she was awake enough to remember ~she had put earplugs in~ because went to sleep while place still active, and ~that was why~ she couldn't hear a word i was saying.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the lulzy tales : late last night i went into girl's room cuz i couldn't sleep and wanted to play. she was asleep. she woke up startled, and then i could see panic grip her. and i was you know, all "don't worry baby, you're not in trouble, there's nothing wrong" and she was looking at me with these big and growing eyes and turning progressively whiteer.
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of trinque from 1 to 2 << deedbot maintainer
danielpbarron: !!rate trinque 2 deedbot maintainer
asciilifeform: also learned that there exists a rockchip laptop, of sorts, 'asus c101pa', but i do not have one here , if someone has the time/inclination he can try it.
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'rockchip' turns out is a completely usable and clean gentoo station. can be used as workstation also, if not in a hurry. ( running 100% asciilifeform-recipe gentoo, albeit not musltronic; running also self-built kernel; no eggogs, hiccups, good disk access times. the 1 item not yet built with own hands: uboot init thing )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 17:38 trinque: well christ, they have a manifesto right there at the top.
mircea_popescu: "Home to 146,998 users Who authored 5,033,248" << whoa, this is way the fuck tinier than previously realised. for ALL. THE. NOISE. people have been making about how it's "up and coming" since at least 2-3 years ago...
mircea_popescu: MDude things you've done is a point of interest. places you've been... unless you have naked chicks in the streets of the czech republic / parks of buenos aires / dunes of egypt etc, no.
MDude: I was answering the question, but if you want to see what other specific places I've been there's https://meticulac.tumblr.com/find-me .
mircea_popescu: ahahaha i though that was a metaphore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 98% ? that's... impressive.
mircea_popescu: MDude "most places" is not something. stop giving summaries, stop talking around the point. either produce something specific or stfu.
MDude: I've just gone by MDude/MDude1350 most places until recently, when I started taking up the handle Meticulac.
mircea_popescu: check that out, doods who can promise monday delivery for utf-8 on wednesday night, AND THEN DELIVER IT MONDAY. but what they spend their time is utf. holy hell that place.
asciilifeform: it did -- in 1990s. today afaik mostly buried and fertilizing that forest from below
mircea_popescu: i always thought plan9 is this hipster wankish thing ; didn't realise it played the role of noldbug ie official-inca-alternative-for-smart-retards
phf: /rob pike/ken thompson/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for your peace of mind, i intend to publish qntra report once mpex proxies back online, seems rather silly otherwise. not forgotten or mothballed or anything. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: o hey, i didn't know that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plan9 was the full syphilitic bloom of 'second system disease' of the unix authors
mircea_popescu: is plan9 somehow deeply related to unicrap, or is it rather they're the sort of geeky dweebs unlikely to ~not~ swallow the imperial hook all the way to the sinker ?
phf: asciilifeform: all these projects are plan9 cargo cults, so there's always going to be utf-8
TomServo: Wasn't that the power ranger response to MP request to specify bitcoin?
TomServo: I expect MP will love "Software should be written for programmers, which means the code is the documentation," ☟︎
TomServo: Yup, they are not interesting.
lobbes: Daw, they even got their own freenode channels.
lobbes: These principles can change, based on the consent of the bitreich elite. " oh. Okay. Phew
trinque: well christ, they have a manifesto right there at the top. ☟︎
asciilifeform: good bit of uniturd orcacola glypholade in this supposed 'suckless' www.
TomServo: asciilifeform: perhaps I've been too generous... perhaps.. phf has it.
asciilifeform: TomServo: lol, just how comically idiot was the parody-tmsr ? do they use dsa keys, kept in keybase ? their mp is bulgarian ? their linux -- rathead ?
trinque: last chance to say something that isn't word salad.
TomServo: I fell down the gopherhole after phf mentioned it.. came across a pseudo-tmsr 'bitreich'.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same
trinque: what brings you MDude, other than itchy-stump need for in-group signaling?
MDude: Yeah, if that manages to go anywhwere, it'd be neat if making your own gopher browser and server would be a part of it.