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mircea_popescu:
i had archive.is preserve the dpaste just in case anyone wants it after it expires. assbot has the link.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller idiots actually moved to 100% discussing what
i say, STILL can't fucking say my name ?
thestringpuller: "Gavin: ... that's another form of centralization that
I find much more worrying than network security. If the only entities participating are only high-net worth people, then those are pretty easy to get at and control."
ben_vulpes:
i am unconvinced that the six months have been paid, or that if they have any impression has been made.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:58:55; ascii_butugychag: the overall idea
i am trying to teach is that anybody changing a line of trb ought to be mindful of the work this creates for others
TomServo: Sorry,
I had to step away.
I've rebuilt w/ v99996k and am seeing the correct max_locks.
mod6: if you're around tonight,
i'd like to walk through some steps.
TomServo: mod6: Please assume
I've mucked something up before all else. Let me know what
I can provide that can be of help.
phf:
i'm using graphviz, v.lisp produces a file of 'digraph G {"bitcoin-asciilifeform.4-goodbye-win32" -> "asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation"; ...' format, everything else handled by graphviz
punkman:
I don't think "guy that doesn't know much" doing "curl deedbot.com/build.sh | sh" is great either
mod6: you know something that is a lot different participating in TMSR as opposed to any other place
i've worked at?
shinohai: mod6: it works as expected for me, maybe
I'll draft one up in next couple of days
mircea_popescu:
i dunno, just throwing it out there, for ppl to weigh in
mod6: sure. that makes some sense. if it reduces confusion,
i think its positive.
mod6: hmm.
i'd feel like that maybe that's a bit sticky incase IPs change or what not -- maybe an addition to the wiki would be a better place to start there?
mod6: mircea_popescu:
I believe they should.
mircea_popescu:
i haven't the slightest curiosity to find what rando
i couldn't tell from adam thinks the blocks look like.
shinohai:
I'll open mine to public when
I finish my battle with Comcast.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im only going to announce the new nodes once they're synced and
i open them to public
i figure.
mod6: ok, on that note then; we've got myself, shinohai, bitcoin_pete, hanbot, Mr. P. and who am
i forgetting that have built v99996 build script --
i'd say let's put it in deed bot and update the wiki.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:10:38; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 :
i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.
trinque: shinohai:
I'd type env in a terminal of yours, see what your system is setting
mod6: ya,
i agree with that when sync'ing up. get a verified chain from a trusted node.
shinohai: btw mod6
I still have to add the export PERL_MM_OPT= to mine to get it to run, dunno what weird issue
I have that causes it.
PeterL:
I always hated when we had to use a room in the physics department, they used whiteboards
mod6: you think
i should copy it somewhere in the v99996 build script before
i jump onto other things?
i'd rather just let sleeping dogs lie there, just because very soon we're gonna ditch it anyway.
mod6:
I feel like, if you and
I put some serious effort with help from #b-a, for like 2 weeks, we'd really be somewhere by the end of february.
mod6: <+trinque>
I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me. << no rush here.
i'd like to dig into this sometime next week.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd,
i just support them directly
mod6: <+trinque>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 <<
I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. ... << for now, as far as
I'm concerned, this is totally ok. we'll have to worry about other *nix's after we perfect getting linux x86-64 done with a CD to boot also.
☝︎ trinque:
I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as
i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
mod6: <+trinque>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking
I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements << yeah, please, if you have the time,
i'd really like to work with you to help us not only get the makefiles updated with the latest V and other things, but to also figure out all of this stuff.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd,
i just support them directly
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as
i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
mod6:
I feel good about the work that you all put in this month. Thanks to everyone who helped the republic be successful this month.
mod6:
i do think, as a republic, we're laying the groundwork for that at some point to be a possibility.
mod6: which,
I aim to work on tonight :]
mod6: if someone says "hey fuck these ``Classic and XT clowns,
I want REAL BITCOIN'', then we need to ensure that they can build that.
mod6: Then we'll be ready to take on the more challenging parts this year --
i.e. the mempool etc.
shinohai:
I won't lie those, there are times
I cry " mod6 HALP!!!!"
shinohai:
I can work with it because
I've used variation of it for so many builds. But
I understand the issues at hand.
mod6: if hanbot and Mr. P. can get through it ok, then we'll deedbot it -- not that
I feel good about it -
I don't. The thing isn't what we really want... it's just what we have, for now. :/
mod6: There are steps that
I can let you know about to walk you through setting this up and logging your every move so we can all discover what it is that isn't working on your end. Because
I'd bet dollars to donuts that for somereason you are ending up with a super downlevel version of db.cpp -- which is why you're getting stuck on 252`450
mod6: Please, let's work together to discover what that might be.
I'm worried that either V is failing on your side for some reason (it seems to not be pressing out the tree correctly) -- maybe you tried to build over an old build space, or who knows.
mod6: <+hanbot>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so
i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &`
☝︎ shinohai:
I just nuked my entire rotor directory on build machine every time
I am doing an update
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 :
i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.
☟︎ mod6: what's the cannonical makeclean, rm -rf * in /rotor ? << yeah,
i would just blowaway the entire 'rotor' directory along with all the V stuff. the stuff that
I would save is just the .wot dir, the keys contained therein, and of course, your ~/.gnupg stuff (ofc. have backups etc (this is for everyone who blew their keys away once)) : then totally restart the entire script.
punkman: guess that 40MW-600phash calculation
I saw in some comments somewhere might be off a bit
mircea_popescu: ftr mod6 :
i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2
shinohai: Only time
I have stopped mine is for upgrades. Otherwise it runs merrily along all day.
danielpbarron: and it's been going uninterrupted since more-or-less the beginning (
i stopped and started it after the first few k blocks for some reason)
danielpbarron: my node (the one
i started at the same time as Mircea) is still chugging along happily; now at height=367932
shinohai: Always have used it punkman no particular reason
I guess :/
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: no debate. but if
i'm sovereign, how can the polizei charge me ? what's next, arresting bahamas for health care insurance fraud ?
shinohai:
I may be wrong but it works for me
punkman: hanbot,
I think you don't need -conf if you have -datadir
hanbot:
i mean is most of that for troubleshooting or is that what it takes each time?
TomServo: punkman:
I used build-bitcoind-99997K.sh, OS install and bitcoind build were on the 27th.
TomServo: It appears
I'm somehow wedged at 252450 again. :( Just completed my first restart, so we'll see.
pete_dushenski: if
i got up and moved everytime idiots were idiots,
i'd live on the moon already.
pete_dushenski: punkman:
i wanted to cry for the world
i'm bringing my children into when
i read 'current social consensus'. then
i remembered that you have to get caught first !
diametric: pete_dushenski: the article
i read didn't say marks, but specifically lacerations.
pete_dushenski: in 'go' related nyooz,
i spent some time talking to martin muller at the 'physics mixer'
i attended last night. he's the associate research chair at the university of alberta in computing science and one of the leading researchers in monte carlo methods and the 'go' game. apparently this 'world-beating' research is happening right in my own very back yard !
shinohai:
I know the patch applied, because bitcoind -? shows it as an option
cazalla_:
i find something with full service history, low km and then.. cvt :\
pete_dushenski:
i'd say that, by and large, that's a fair assessment of cvt transmissions : they're complex to repair and unintuitive to drive, in my experience
cazalla_: thanks pete_dushenski! came to ask you something about cars actually! are the complaints
i'm reading about CVT (noisy, blow up, are shit and to be avoided) legitimate?
shinohai:
I didn't get it in "getinfo" though myself. Still shows 99999
pete_dushenski: but
i don't discount that
i bunged something up along the way
mod6: so if
i use -setvernum=99997 it'll show up in the log but not getinfo?
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski:
i was gonna point out the version string thing but you found it in the logz already.
BingoBoingo:
I believe reddit user's first four characters are "paul" and can't bother spelling the rest because reddit.
mod6: this is of value since
I really haven't played with this on my own. perhaps log your results and post.
mod6: yeah,
i dont know.
i'd try building with the new v99996 script, and then see what happens.
pete_dushenski: whereas the stock 99997k.sh yields 50400, which is what
i'm seeing.
mod6: pete_dushenski: ok good q. shinohai had some issues with trying to set the value via the command line too -
i haven't even tested this yet.