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ascii_butugychag: mod6: i recommend for it to also run patch with F 0
jurov: i guess this is not implemented yet, ability to press multiple non-conflicting heads at once
PeterL: but if I use a leaf, will it include the other leafs?
PeterL: ok, so what do I use as head? one of the leafs?
PeterL: oh, I was thinking about it upside down, I guess
PeterL: (p | press) (<press_dir> <head>) << so I have to specify the genesis? what is head?
ascii_butugychag: mod6: i still see 'offset' in there?
polarbeard: I actually do that, but because metamake is really dumb :(
mod6: i know at one point i did negitive tests on this, but my problem in there is idiotic, i was not paying close enough attention
PeterL: I am looking at mod6's v, and trying to figure out how to control it?
PeterL: I mean, I see leafs of malleus_mikehearnification and maxint_locks_corrected, what if I want to include both? or am I misunderstanding what is going on?
PeterL: can v press to multiple heads, or do I have to pick one?
polarbeard: I'm aliasing potch='patch --fuzzy 1000'
mircea_popescu: jesus i wonder how much "mission critical code" was really written by patch itself.
ascii_butugychag: and i warned, that this has to be switched off
mircea_popescu: how does this work ? i'm sitting here doumbfounded.
ascii_butugychag: i wonder who thought 'fuzzy' diff was a good idea for a default to begin with
mod6: i've got some idiotic thing going on in there, looking now.
mircea_popescu: mod6 but does it press ? from what i see it correctly says no antecedents found etc
mod6: im just trying to be sure, im already pretty sure... but i wanted you to look/test so i dont end up with more on my plate
mod6: before i re-grind this patch, im gonna look into V a bit while I wait for ascii to give me the green light on the other two reground from lastnight.
ascii_butugychag: (my own vtron verified nothing at all, i must point out.)
ascii_butugychag: i thought mod6's vtron actually verified each patch operation ?
mircea_popescu: because if i sign random shit that doesn't actually connect to the tree even if it claims to
mod6: no worries, they need to be re-ground, i'll work on that.
ascii_butugychag: mod6: what am i looking at
jurov: but how do I add both A and A' into the repo without renaming?
jurov: is that always decidable? if i have A, which has a child patch B, and author regrinds A into A' which is to be kept?
ascii_butugychag: ty mod6. i'd like to note that in a time of 'fog of war', when some patch is up in the air, it is not necessary to hold off on ~all~ work, but only things which concern the affected subsystems.
mod6: or at least until i give the "all good" signal in here.
polarbeard: yes, it needs reground, I didn't know it will be submitted so what I published is on top of my better logging patches
mod6: if anyone else is in the middle of creating a patch - maybe hold off a day or so before you submit until I can straighten out the tree & test everything.
mod6: and that might be because i'm running with my two replacement patches for ascii's stuff that haven't been verified yet.
mod6: whats weird here, is that the hashes in the patch, before and after, match nothing that i've got. so i've gotta figure that out.
mircea_popescu: by all means, i like to see an apoplectic alf.
polarbeard: anything else I can do? should I play with shiva? :)
mircea_popescu: where the fuck did i end up with this v-0001.pl then o.O
mod6: afaik i've always named the actual file `v.pl'
jurov: i'd prefer to name it v_MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMCMXCVI
mircea_popescu: im contemplating signing this to reflect its successful usage to bring up nodes, but should i really sign a file called "v0001.pl" ?
jurov: huh, i now see only pgp signature without text
mircea_popescu: ok so i am sending an email to btc-dev@therealbitcoin.org with subject line Certify polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc with content as a clearsigned short explanation of what it is, and with two attachments
jurov: i won't mind
mircea_popescu: do you mind holding my hand again while i try to send stuff to this ?
hdbuck: ah, sure i know
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 04:36:34; mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: it's sorta incredible that the fiatists who need infinite growth all want to cut their own throats with reduced consumption while tmsr~, who doesn't want anything to do with infinite growth, is buying and consuming like it's going out of style << actually, best estimate i can get puts TMSR GDP growth for 2015 somewhere around 450-500%. that's not 4.5-5%. it's not 45-5
princessnell: ascii_butugychag yes. i am lame.
ascii_butugychag: 'diamond age' is prolly closest thing i know to a fictional portrayal of... tmsr
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 18:01:26; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393853 << I met the guy at both PaulFest and PorcFest (pictured https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bre5M-MIMAEVoHf.jpg:large )
jurov: or should i figure how to shoehorn .vpatch+ .vpatch.sig to dpaste?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc << now this, i will review. thank you, polarbeard
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393853 << I met the guy at both PaulFest and PorcFest (pictured https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bre5M-MIMAEVoHf.jpg:large ) ☝︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 13:53:49; PeterL: I know she's smart, but I don't expect her presidency to help me any
ascii_butugychag: i did not sign it, because we have no mechanical provisions for processing such a thing, nor is it a long-term goal
ascii_butugychag: mod6: ok now i see
mod6: i don't have tinyscheme-genesis in my patches dir. just shiva 1_of_2 and shiva 2_of_2 + the shiva fix.
thestringpuller: and it's like "Yup I can do this"
thestringpuller: I su into the user that php is running from edit the file
mircea_popescu: i dunno what that is.
ascii_butugychag: i thought mircea_popescu taught us that they quit making worthy officers some time around 1800
mircea_popescu: i'll take my chances with the dude who spent actual money to get there.
ascii_butugychag: i tend to associate this with old brit and ru empires, officers with purchased commissions, imbecilic commanders, 'blue blood.'
mircea_popescu: no i know what you meant. it is SPECIFICALLY inferior in this specific manner we call "indian".
ascii_butugychag: anyway what i meant was, they have a pedigreed white meat thing going
mircea_popescu: i recall us discussing old soviet machines re that also
mircea_popescu: i shared it like three times to date when this thread came up!
mircea_popescu: what am i to share, a scent ?
ascii_butugychag: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 << obligatory oldie, from my www; i will note that most of the proprietary ciphers are known to be symmetric.
ascii_butugychag: and the one-bit, 'i saw a coconut'
ascii_butugychag: (to where i could find'em)
ascii_butugychag: i always found it interesting that, after all of the $maxint spent on both sides of the ocean on symmetric crypto (see maslennikov's b00k, from the l0gz, say) we have - publicly - no more provably-hard symmetric crypto than a hundred years ago
ascii_butugychag: (i must mention, for completeness, that derpwall could have an opposite purpose, of preventing inquiriy into the ~weakness~ of b-b-s when used as prng, as it is in many systems incl. iirc, certain versions of winblowz)
mircea_popescu: i dunno what i want here. nm.
ascii_butugychag: BUT i do not know this proof, and it is not public.
ascii_butugychag: i now strongly suspect that blumblumshub can be proven to equal rsa in hardness
ascii_butugychag: but i wanted to put this basic summary here, in case i get flattened by a bus or whatnot tonight.
ascii_butugychag: ben_vulpes wanted some warez, and i realized that we haven't the most elementary provisions for warez
ascii_butugychag: so there's a proggy i've been testin' ☟︎
jurov: i was not aware of these tests. and what if some day it will?
jurov: mircea_popescu: i wait for deedbot to accept files and *detached signatures*, no dpaste braindamage
phf: i think cascadian solution was to strip #\return on incoming posts?
mircea_popescu: trinque i dunno, jurov was saying something about email, but that seems silly. just allow the import of files and piss them out as a json i guess ?
PeterL: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/1d14385a-c678-45ee-8e23-bf8860cbe04d/?raw=true << I seem to be getting alot of these error messages, should I be concerned (connected to Dulap)?
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 14:14:45; mircea_popescu: trinque so not with the intent to pressure you, but : is deedbot patch insertion likely to come online soon or should i re-learn how to do it via email ?
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-02-2016#1393939 << I have time this weekend to give it a look. What's the spec here? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't deny a man his right.
mircea_popescu: PeterL hey, i'm a dialectician over here :D
phf: fwiw the graph is still not quite right, i.e. shows presses that couldn't happen.
phf: i'm just doing manual labour until i get an uploader of some sort
dignork: PeterL: I'm lurking
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 40 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 19 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
BingoBoingo: Fuck I wrote December instead of January in the first line
mircea_popescu: trinque so not with the intent to pressure you, but : is deedbot patch insertion likely to come online soon or should i re-learn how to do it via email ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, which will happen five minutes after the usg stops hiring idiots, which will happen half hour after anyone who's not an idiot stops exclusively dedicating himself to the republic, which happens after i'm fucking dead, i should hope.
BingoBoingo: I don't know that the Indian bureaucrats like Preet can think any other way.
BingoBoingo: I endorse parting the thing out and starting over.
PeterL: but I figure some candidates are going to make it worse than others, and I think Clinton would be one of the worst
PeterL: I know she's smart, but I don't expect her presidency to help me any ☟︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL you're not supposed to trust your ruler. you're supposed to feel threatened by them, i guess, or fear them, if you don't have a readier way to express submission in your own mind.
PeterL: I certainly don't trust her