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mircea_popescu: wait... i never published this item
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be clear, i'm discussing the 'turtle' paper
asciilifeform: but interesting nonetheless, if i were hitler i would order 10,001 'provably np-hard' ciphers to be created.
mircea_popescu: i'd almost be mildly insulted, if it weren't for the fact that my fucking spam filter identified it correctly on the first pass.
asciilifeform: it has been a very long time since i saw this.
asciilifeform: if there were 1,001 alleged proofs, i'd throw out this one perhaps, because annoying
asciilifeform: anyway i don't give a fuck what he said, i want to know if the proof actually proves anything of interest.
mircea_popescu: when people go all scholarly and shit on me, and start with the "We show" bullcrap i fucking expect them to use the words they mean to use.
mircea_popescu: what i wish to know is how did he establish his ought.
asciilifeform: anyway mircea_popescu , m. blaze's 'turtle' is, afaik, the only ~claimed~ provably-hard block cipher (non-otp) that i was able to track down.
mircea_popescu: ➃ << i didn't even know slut brands were a html character.
polarbeard: I'm evaling that just in case
mircea_popescu: god ima have to kick him again aren't i.
asciilifeform: and srsly, i don't even see the point in thinking about that one.
asciilifeform: i think i will go to a racing competition; and submit an 'enchilada cipher' car, a junkyard carcass of old ferrari welded to remnants of a crashed mazerati.
asciilifeform: what i was wondering is how the author of the comment came to think that this fits the specs given
mircea_popescu: i don't think anything'sd so hot.
asciilifeform: anybody can do that, it was actually the first thing i suggested
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see what is so hot about the composition thing
polarbeard: I've doxygened trb, https://polarbeard.github.io/trb-doxygen/init_8cpp.html
mircea_popescu: just as long as this a) doesn't invalidate assumptions required by one in a way operator couldn't verify and b) they are actually independent, as opposed to "i thought they were"
asciilifeform: also, i will defend the notion that crypto - composes. usefully. the contrary notion is due 100% to retarded implementers, who belong in fermenting vat
mircea_popescu: "we" can't. i, for my own needs, do, is all.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: I woke up at 22:00 local time. Hazard of working Internet full time.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't per se object to girl wearing "lightsaber armorer" cocktail dress, if that's the fashion, as long as it grabs her tits and waist right etc.
mircea_popescu: and so no, i'm not paying anyone anything to add "lightsaber armor" to my clothing.
BingoBoingo: Ah. I guess a point could be made that if Obama's Hope and Change didn't fix the problem Bernie's isn't likely to either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i on the other hand am more than willing to die by this imaginary "quantum" computing.
asciilifeform: (or, for that matter, integer factorization. which, for n00bz, i will point out that rsa has never actually been formally reduced to!)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which is why i'd rather not live and die solely by the discrete log problem.
asciilifeform: see, i'm unwilling to entirely discount the 'quantum' calculator thing.
danielpbarron: i've seen the game thing pop up on social media, something about they are or might be accepting bitcoin
BingoBoingo: I keep forgetting that thing exists.
danielpbarron: wow BingoBoingo the most clickbaity title you ever qntra'd. I was very confused to find it wasn't about the game company 'Steam'
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 17:25:39; danielpbarron: you can color it however you like; I color nicknames based on my rating of them in the WoT
mircea_popescu: i suspek the only effectiveness of the lotioning is that it keeps them from doing stuff / touching the spot for a while
jurov: rly? i thought it's cuz of the lotions they use to tan the hide
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7vsgzW6Br1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg << i wonder if all teh people that are into this stuff realise that the only reason a woman's skin is soft is specifically that she doesn't go around barefood & naked in chains.
trinque: I'll have this done just in time to switch to gossipd
trinque: tried weechat.el, will probably end up using that when I bother to do something sensible around hightlight notifications
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was looking at generalizing the 'oracle' resistance from cramer-shoup to other systems
BingoBoingo: jurov: Ok, now I've bet on it
phf: somebody here i believe sponsored otp for znc plugin
BingoBoingo: But no, I don't have any bets on that yet
ben_vulpes: do i misremember?
ben_vulpes: then there's some default password implementation the specifics of which i forget but was miserably bad
jurov: Interesting there are some bets despite I have not advertised it yet. Local bitcoiners do follow bitbet :)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have a *million* complaints against znc
jurov: BingoBoingo: I listed the biggest douches, rooting against them
ben_vulpes: i think i even did erc-znc mode at one point
phf: i don't have an opinion on it. i have znc, bitlbee and erc all very lightly configured to work together, and i basically don't use anything else for comms
ben_vulpes: oh god i tried znc
ben_vulpes: phf: this means i have to maintain a mental map for "emacs on my server" and "emacs on my desktop
kakobrekla: not a single comment ever got removed and i dont think we will start now
ben_vulpes: phf: the best erc setup i've come up with is to run it through mosh in a terminal
ben_vulpes: light terminal, yes. specific color scheme at that. and no no fucking dark text editor because i have to pull up web pages and am right back at the original problem!
ben_vulpes: no i want the whole screen tan-ish
danielpbarron: you can color it however you like; I color nicknames based on my rating of them in the WoT ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i motherfucking hate switching over to a dark terminal after using a light text editor
ben_vulpes: i like my colors to match!
ben_vulpes: i could get my whole experience into solarized light
ben_vulpes: i had a pertinent question before the payroll people distracted me
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i mean how am i supposed to know what's going on in the far-flung provinces
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400441 << i had to double check the list, surprised she wasn't already a lord, but we're off in another world this channel isn't always aware of, with quite another perspective it seems ☝︎
ben_vulpes: and apparently i have to go through intuit for this
ben_vulpes: all i want is a form for hours and a button that remits appropriately
ben_vulpes: subject of sv, it looks like i'll be on hold with intuit until the halvening
ben_vulpes: i guess that'd be sv
mircea_popescu: such as i dunno wtf these schmucks did before becoming "scientists", but i imagine revolutionizing keyboards and inventing better paper clips
ben_vulpes: "baby i need a tug!"
ben_vulpes: i am now renaming my cock to CSCL Indian Ocean ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i chastise, yes, but i don't believe in destroying the woman. canes, not clubs.
ben_vulpes: i am offend
asciilifeform: i very much believe mircea_popescu .
jurov: ok, i'll look into -test2
mircea_popescu: i'm glad i said something.
asciilifeform: jurov: all i said what what it must ~not~ show
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400478 << i will admit that i am not certain i have ever met in the flesh, other than chetty, a woman who wrote software ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm apparently missing a lot of culture
BingoBoingo: But seriously these things are useful for beating down most things. Better made for that than some hammers I've seen
asciilifeform: i thought we were thinking specifically of the 6 'd'
BingoBoingo: <phf> i thought police carries those oversized maglites for the purpose of using them as batons in a pinch << yes. For this 4, 5, or 6 D cell models
asciilifeform: and wtf, i don't read with these, would happily buy even red led
phf: i thought police carries those oversized maglites for the purpose of using them as batons in a pinch
asciilifeform: i have both kinds, from same maker, the krypton incandescent one is a club now
mircea_popescu: well i never ran into one, but anyway.
asciilifeform: now that i think about it, i even own one of those cast iron monsters
asciilifeform: i will also note that all of this was part of my original concept for vtron
mircea_popescu: i could hash out a more complex example if it may help, since this NOTATIONAL FORMALISM (see that alf!!!) actually solves the problem of saying graphs. something i wasn't going to do before not because you can't display them, but because im too lazy to draw em.
asciilifeform: it lets folks actually press a release, for example, without requiring 'papal infallibility' for the release signers; and, likewise importantly, it lets developer press 'i want a thing will all of my shit but not the discarded erroneous crud'
mircea_popescu: this is the counterposed thing. in this case, i would wish for N6 to know that a) abc and b) c ; whereas for N4 that a) abc and b) a OR b and finally for N2 that a) abc and b) a Or B or C
mircea_popescu: what i said then phf was, i must be able to tell a) which people in total contributed and b) on what sets of people does the present press depend.
phf: it's not, i need to reread relevant threads, and this one
mircea_popescu: this gets to the core of what i was asking of phf to do with those lists.
punkman: i'd say longest by abc is N2
asciilifeform: if i understand correctly
mircea_popescu: aite, i see. really should drop the latest it's confucksing
asciilifeform: this is, after all, what i do when developing.
asciilifeform: i would say that it is meaningful to 'press latest known unorphaned chain signed by x'
mircea_popescu: i say it is not useful or even meaningful.