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mircea_popescu: or ipad or something. i dunno, one of their shits.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 02:29:56; asciilifeform: i've never in my whole life used a back pocket.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 02:25:41; phf: i thought cars are typically books-on-tape territory
mircea_popescu: i guess if the man wants it... that oughta count for something huh.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 02:24:07; nubbins`: as a lord of bitcoin, tmsr~, cognizant of the responsibilities that my words thusly carry, i hereby solemnly rebuke any attempt to strip me of my lordship.
asciilifeform: i believe it
mircea_popescu: i have a samsung thingee
asciilifeform: for some reason i have difficulty picturing him with a phone.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1401608 << i never had anything else. da fuck i want anything else for. ☝︎
pete_d_out: right you are. i misspoke then, should be 'trb iterations'
pete_d_out: mod6 nice work on v99995 ! quite a few changes in there. my v99996 test has had a few bumps in the road (mostly hosting issues afaict) but is still syncing. i'll let you know if there are any snags in that, but holleee you guys are pumping out these trb releases !!
mircea_popescu: pete_d_out nothing that i put in public.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno man, i'm just thinking.
asciilifeform: plenty of things that i have not seen with own eyes, live happily somewhere.
asciilifeform: i have strictly rationed Giving A Fuck Pointz
asciilifeform: and i have nfi what they did for a living
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 16:48:44; ben_vulpes: i am now renaming my cock to CSCL Indian Ocean
pete_d_out: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400869 << i thought 'spruce goose' was funny in junior high or thereabouts. not that this reference was any more readily grasped than 'cscl'.. ☝︎
shinohai: And with that I am off to the loving arms of my Mistress for the night. Ciao!
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 14:10:08; mircea_popescu: i never expected him to not show up under his PROFESSIONAL names...
pete_d_out: i'm sure that'll work a solid 2/3 times.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 13:52:37; mircea_popescu: anyway, the winds have pointedly turned against apple. the time when they did that "we'll brick your device if you used other parts in it" thing i'd arbitrarily pick as the jumping the shark moment. but in any case : apple is for the next decade a company to sell, not to hold and CERTAINLY not to buy.
kakobrekla: first day i got my last phone it fell about 5 meters to concrete floor
kakobrekla: i mean wtf now i have to take care of it!?
kakobrekla: i dont know but if i cant hammer nails with it its not a phone for me
phf: i like to freeclimb abandoned buildings when i'm drunk, i have very specific requirements for my cellphones. i've destroyed 4 iphones so far, unfixable mechanical damage
kakobrekla: i havent heard nothing but 'it stopped working' from the owners if memory serves
asciilifeform: i've never in my whole life used a back pocket. ☟︎
phf: that's the phone that i use http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F9XJDY i guess it's discontinued, since the only available option is same for $250 :o
pete_d_out: kakobrekla i quite like it.
asciilifeform: phf: i actually ran out (!) of book tape warez of tolerable quality
phf: i thought cars are typically books-on-tape territory ☟︎
pete_d_out: asciilifeform i walk or cycle 4/7 days per week. 'saddam' sits in heated parkade. blessedly for both and neither of our constitutions could bear more roadtime.
asciilifeform: fwiw i agree with nubbins`
shinohai: "Damn, we're 1 brick short of finishing this house" "I have a Nokia!"
nubbins`: as a lord of bitcoin, tmsr~, cognizant of the responsibilities that my words thusly carry, i hereby solemnly rebuke any attempt to strip me of my lordship. ☟︎
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: pretty sure these won't even work, where i live, today
pete_d_out: standing there or sitting there, hunched over with the stupid i-thing 12" in front of your face because it's 'convenient' instead of walking over to desktop or laptop or god forbid waiting until you get home. ~that's~ the killer.
phf: well, that's not a reason i use mine. i spend so much time on technology, i require explicit and often prolonged periods of disconnect to stay healthy
pete_d_out: i did !
pete_d_out: i toyed with the idea of dumbphone mebbe
pete_d_out: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400224 <--> "My body is not something that can be sold. I can sell my time, attention, etc but my body always belongs to me. And I think shame is more your area than mine, otherwise why would you respond to such a non-threatening post with such violence?" ☝︎
pete_d_out: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400204 << i lollered at 'attended butterbeast community college' ☝︎
asciilifeform: i once turned up at a party full of'em
pete_d_out: but you didn't and neither did i
asciilifeform: yes, but to what planet should i go to, to get one ?
mircea_popescu: but getting back to it, the point i want made is that EXP-* inclusion beats NP inclusion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you can design hardware that deals in ~reals~ i will take off my hat.
asciilifeform: hey i don't even own an instrument that deals in the reals !11111
mircea_popescu: by which i mean, known to be harder than p. this is proven.
asciilifeform: which is, now that i think about it, what mircea_popescu prolly meant
pete_d_out: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400919 << heh. ok so now i see that this 'news' was already in the logs. but does 'motherboard' actually publish the contact lists ? nah. do i ? you bet. ☝︎
pete_d_out: actually working a "news" piece that i'd give to qntra but i... don't have my keys. so to contravex it goes.
pete_d_out: shinohai even a few weeks early, i'll take it. cheers ;)
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 02:49:24; asciilifeform: i actually hit garey & johnson's mega-encyclopaedia 'intractability' and dug
mircea_popescu: man fucking schneier is intolerable. i can pick out his lines even without looking at attribution. his entire output comes out of a tiny fucking word grinder.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it goes deeper than that. something something entropy/and/bandwidth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now that i think about it, it is elementary
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't. it is intuition.
mircea_popescu: 1998-10-30 Douglas A. Gwyn: "...I can exhibit the design for a block cipher that is demonstrably secure according to the rules of the game, although it wouldn't be *practical*." << you should write to him, too.
mircea_popescu: also i should like to propose a lemma : that chaining should always proceed TOWARDS SMALLER BLOCKS
mircea_popescu: apparently all the stuff i proposed as common sense was in point of fact common sense plainly said on public list 20 years ago.
asciilifeform: will admit that i'll be a little surprised if he answers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote to blaze.
asciilifeform: i'ma quite definitely be spending moar time in wolf form.
mircea_popescu: lol i see you like the wolf form idea!
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 23:53:09; mircea_popescu: uh. i had no idea sat is solved now ?
mircea_popescu: "1998-10-26 Terry Ritter: "We *never* know that a cipher is strong. Ever." "Now, we might 'consider' a cipher strong when all *our* guys have looked at it and found no break. But, quite frankly, the *other* guys have more training, more experience, more resources, more time, and they may even be smarter than our guys." "I claim it is more important to have many different ciphers than to have a few which are 'considered
mircea_popescu: uh. i had no idea sat is solved now ? ☟︎
jurov: should i renew it?
asciilifeform: 'What I don't
asciilifeform: i have nfi what is 'puppet.'
thestringpuller: so I run readelf on all the libcrypto***.so's
thestringpuller: so I get this error " EC_GROUP_new_curve_GF2m symbol not found at runtime link blah blah"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: today from the mines. I'm setting up puppet which uses openssl
mircea_popescu: but in other news, i shall brb, for duty calls. ( http://49.media.tumblr.com/41d2478fe09e54b02e6239e54c59bb07/tumblr_nxpjm8l98j1qlne6uo1_500.gif duty is the one wearing white)
mircea_popescu: so i hear yeah
asciilifeform: also i will note that orcs are, where typically found, trained-dumb in a number of easily identifiable ways.
asciilifeform: prolly same reason why i and many folks like tame animals more than most people.
asciilifeform: and i fully understand why mircea_popescu is fond of orcs.
asciilifeform: in all seriousness, i mathematicize mentally more or less wholly geometrically.
mircea_popescu: but currently, a box wherein you input code on one end, and it outputs this peculiar graph at arbitrary zoom level is the most valuable computer i can think of.
mircea_popescu: oh wow, bitbet uses google charts, i forgot. anyway. likew one of the bitbet charts!
mircea_popescu: but you know what i want ? i want it to output a fucking graph!
asciilifeform: incidentally, i suppose that this is when i confess that this is actually my day job
mircea_popescu: anyway, the more i think about this tyhe more im convinced our problems are really one problem : the absence of a proved mechanism to create the difficulty graph of a primitive.
asciilifeform: can't fault if mircea_popescu and i come up with same arithmetic.
mircea_popescu: well... yeah i dunno how you'd do that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i actually started with this
asciilifeform: and when i first saw it mentioned, some years back, i actually thought it was named for shitting oneself
asciilifeform: i'ma write to herr blaze, then.
asciilifeform: oh and now i'm curious what the spam said
asciilifeform: i'm not a famous k00l d00d
asciilifeform: i see nothing that sets off my allergies, astonishingly
asciilifeform: i dug up this old luger in the forest, aha. and i've no idea whether it fires forwards or backwards, of yet.
asciilifeform: and no, i don't have a vintage copy of this thing on dead tree, or the like
mircea_popescu: me either as i just saw it.
asciilifeform: note, i have not gone over the proof!
mircea_popescu: i thought you had just went from a comment i just published. except i hadn't.
asciilifeform: i found 'turtle' by hand