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spyked: trinque, yeah, I'm actually playing with cl-feed-parser to get an idea of what's required for the feed bot, going to spec it and all. I grabbed it off the githubs ( https://github.com/tkych/cl-feed-parser ) and the number of dependencies is irksome, so if you happen to know a better alternative other than building my own, I'm open to suggestions
ben_vulpes: beg pardon, that's done
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of danielpbarron from 1 to 3 << his worship
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of hanbot from 2 to 4 << legendary valkyrie
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mike_c from 3 to 1 << lost, but not forgotten
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of lobbes from 3 to 3 << staunch sapper
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mod6 from 4 to 5 << foundation co-chair
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of trinque from 4 to 6 << against every creature, living or dead
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mircea_popescu from 4 to 5 << master of the realm
trinque: could probably pretty easily bolt your cl-feed-parser to ircbot
trinque: spyked: any chance you want to do mircea_popescu's requested RSS bot? I've got plenty on my plate as it stands.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797506 <-- ain't gonna bitch about that. but just for lulz: http://archive.is/tatUF and to think, proof systems (Coq, Isabelle/HOL, etc.) exist mainly to slap humans on their wrists when they err. ☝︎☟︎
trinque just ran the same command as from cron, pretty weird
trinque: gotta figure out why the cron job keeps getting stuck.
trinque: that I knew, but ty
lobbes: trinque, while yer digging I noticed that wot.deedbot.org appears to have not updated in a bit (e.g. I unrated "blazedout419" a few weeks ago, yet still shows >> http://wot.deedbot.org/3320BCA7825525AD077203C331F36D29A4D93652.html)
trinque left an experimental walletless trb running on that box
spyked: hey trinque, the front page of deedbot.org shows "Bot's address: [...] (balance {u'message': u'Method not found', u'code': -32601})" on 2nd line. looks outta the ordinary.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 19:23 asciilifeform: avgjoe: understand, 'looking up' tells you just about nothing if you do not have any existing trust of any of the people who wrote the item you are 'looking up' in.
lobbes: I was going to hop on to state this very point, but alf beat me to it so I will simply underline and point to trilema article referenced twice above. My own trust for various people (read: cryptographically backed identities) in here was not immediate, but evolved over the 4 years I've spent interfacing with said people. >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797719 ☝︎
shinohai: !!up TrixxiC
avgjoe: and the logs in these days :D
avgjoe: reading trilema
ben_vulpes: and what do you do with all that spare time
avgjoe: no, it's a easy/fake study to have more spare time keeping government grants ☟︎
ben_vulpes: eyy trinque neato
avgjoe: after seeing that raiblocks was just some random coin, i tried to understand better bitcoin and found trilema as a very valid starting point, no-frills like, to use bitcoin in a responsable manner
ben_vulpes: what are you studying though?
avgjoe: and a couple of months ago i was lucky to cash out in bitcoin the crazy (at least for me) amount generated by solving captchas
ben_vulpes: well it's more of a nineties yahooforum pink sheet stock but that's neither here nor there
avgjoe: then this coin has gained popularity for supposed scalability features that i've never investigated
avgjoe: basically a coin that was given to lazy people that solved captchas
ben_vulpes: avgjoe: this is some altcoin?
avgjoe: i'm a student, I've discovered bitcoin thanks to raiblocks
asciilifeform: avgjoe: there is no magical document that proves trustworthiness. but there is, just like thousand years ago, working with people, and developing relation with them
asciilifeform: avgjoe: understand, 'looking up' tells you just about nothing if you do not have any existing trust of any of the people who wrote the item you are 'looking up' in. ☟︎
trinque: avgjoe: you didn't introduce yourself though. so go ahead
trinque is fine with putting it, so long as avgjoe here reads that WoT article.
trinque: note that a horde of titties just came through and used the thing on the basis of knowing douchebag
trinque: someone will have to make the argument in favor of average joes
avgjoe: that's would be nice, then it's up to the average joe to look up the history and wot
ben_vulpes: puts one miles ahead of eg localbitcoins, puts the personal aspect of trust front and center.
trinque: depends on whether I think people oughta come in through existing users, or not
ben_vulpes: trinque: dude has a point, self-referential though it might be faq.html would benefit from an "i am trinque, and have been running this service for members in good standing of the #trilema wot and others before it since XXX"
avgjoe: i mean, ok, it works for noobs, but at the same time you don't know instantly who is managing the keys
mircea_popescu: and bbl folks, have a great time.
trinque: my point was that you can't answer the question of whether to trust me as you sit there now
avgjoe: so if I understand correct: all the deedbot functions are ready to go for a newcomer, except for the wallet function that works well after having a good wot connection
trinque: wot updates and all the rest are immediate
avgjoe: trinque: may I also ask, is just the wallet feature that need human presence or deedbot does other semi-auto functions?
trinque: asciilifeform: sure, maybe some guy trusts me and I think he's crazy
trinque: the web of trust, being in it and forming connections, is the proper way to answer the q
trinque: avgjoe: the point being, while I can give you a lot of nice words about not stealing your bitcents, this doesn't amount to much.
avgjoe: why the reverse show 1 connection?
asciilifeform: i had nfi this was noncommutative
trinque: !!gettrust trinque avgjoe
asciilifeform: ( i rated him earlier today )
trinque: !!gettrust ben_vulpes trinque
trinque: !!gettrust avgjoe trinque
trinque: I am the operator yes.
avgjoe: ok, so as long as i see trinque alive on irc i can feel safe about my test bitcents on it
mircea_popescu: avgjoe it's exactly equivalent to "segwit" except much less expensive. ☟︎
avgjoe: is a feature for doing off chain transactions by trusting the human meat or i'm missing something?
trinque: only airgapped wallet, and human meat that cuts transactions
avgjoe: "Requests that `amount` be withdrawn from your available balance and sent to `to-btc-address`. This step shall be performed by a human operator after reviewing account history. Expect at least one day of processing. Bitcoin transaction fees shall be deducted from your account."
trinque: avgjoe: no, there is no hotwallet
mircea_popescu: nobody cared about him back when he was a good actor 20 years ago as much as they care now, that he delivers wooden monologues of sheer nonsense.
mircea_popescu: morgan freeman is also worshipped now. why ? same reason. wolf-raised kids can't believe oldman is a thing.
mircea_popescu: wasn't meeting the above quals.
asciilifeform: but then suddenly very very hip when crackpot symmetrics.
mircea_popescu: or w/e the fuck. the youth is desperate for adult figures, much like the savage kids in the us black ghetto.
mircea_popescu: goes to their silly little "polyamory" covens on campus and frowns paternally.
asciilifeform: i've no particular objection to snake oil from king cobra vs from japanese viper; but as i observed earlier, the sudden popularity of bernsteinism has never been explained to my satisfaction.
mircea_popescu: i know, i know. just saying, "we picked the non-chosen candidates at random, go sue."
avgjoe: something like that
avgjoe: i supposed that was an hot wallet feature
avgjoe: a curiosity about the deedbot wallet feature: if i use that feature, who is controlling the keys?
asciilifeform has been, in person, to one of the shameful, incestuous tree-houses of the 'cryptographers'
mircea_popescu: well... now there is.
a111: 0 results for "\"Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22Transgressing%20the%20Boundaries%3A%20Towards%20a%20Transformative%20Hermeneutics%20of%20Quantum%20Gravity%22
mircea_popescu: !#s "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity"
mircea_popescu: i dunno what your experience with "peer review" is, but as far as anyone involved is aware, exactly no review goes on in those circumstances. see sokal & all.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 16:25 zx2c4: i havent compiled a list of Name+WrittenReview. maybe i should do that
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797184 << you definitely should do that, seeing how the superficial "was reviewed" claim collapses upon the most cursory scrutiny. this is not a good state to put yourself into, it makes it too easy to be painted with unflattering brushes. ☝︎
TrixxC: i brb there is someone at door
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/ << there. you ever go to bogota ?
mircea_popescu: voice for all teh girls!
mircea_popescu: but are you from uruguay ? because BingoBoingo tells me you look uruguashan.
mircea_popescu: but if you look through that category ("la pas prin lume") there's a ton of various.
BingoBoingo: Ah, the seekrit beach
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/land-of-coffee-land-of-winds-land-of-oddly-moistened-bints/ << that's from the day i died at sea
mircea_popescu: you seen the pics ?
britknee: enjoy the beach
britknee: oh I will put the word out then
mircea_popescu: well, actually about to go to the beach right now, but in general speaking.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aite, i'ma return to packing launch capsule, bbl
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes well. one thing at a time huh :D
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 23:07 mircea_popescu: In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 18:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797132 << this counterstructure argument is actually quite strong ; may indeed be stronger than the proponent realizes.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797532 << as far as i can tell the 'rsa has structure! but aes, surely not' is instance of minsky's empty room ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-13#920444 ) ☝︎☝︎☟︎