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mircea_popescu: i guess either we see
a bunch of more games where this theory is tested, or else the great achievement goes into storage to keep the d-wave company.
shinohai: "Unrelated but why is this site's logo
a bunny on
a fucking Confederate flag?"
mircea_popescu: but yes, by and large there's
a lot of discretionary room for receiver.
mircea_popescu:
a "bitbet is in receivership, send no more bets" thing, give it
a week or w/e. i doubt the receiver would have to wait out any ongoing bets, can prolly just refund if the reasonable resolution is too far away in the future.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: does the bbet receiver have the authority to determine the cut-off date for acceptable wager resolutions and to refund any bets submitted but deemed "too far away" for the receiver to reasonably hold the funds in escrow ? or is this line in the sand to be drawn by you and kakobrekla ? << in general this'd be the receiver's authority.
a reasonable path is you know, get the domain, put up
adlai might actually like it in that case,, being
a nihilistic fraud himself!
adlai gives up, after
a dozen painful minutes spent trying to squeeze
a beatbetification pun out of rosy-smelling corpsorations
danielpbarron: >> (
a)The representatives of BitBet have elected to divide BitBet into 10`000`000 (ten million) equal non-voting shares with
a total equity value of 100 BTC (0.00001 BTC each). In the event of liquidation or breach of this Agreement they solemnly promise and warrant to repay all investors holding shares at this minimum value.
xm2hi: yeah....LOL eyes are
a bit blur now.
danielpbarron: i was gonna say, it took you all weekend to read them? but that last bit is probably more than
a weekend long read
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 gentoo trb v99995 was
a success
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 23:34:21; mpSCAM: idiot went and sent funds from his personal btc wallet made
a mistake
mpSCAM: popescu is
a scammer he always was just hid it clever
mpSCAM: idiot went and sent funds from his personal btc wallet made
a mistake
☟︎ mpSCAM: with
a pornographer like popescu
danielpbarron: nope i'm up despite taking
a pretty substantial loss on bitbet
mpSCAM: popescu finally outed as
a scammer?
pete_dushenski: if anyone is having trouble accessing contravex, lemme know. just finished blocking
a bunch of ip addresses.
BingoBoingo suspects
a very mike_c sort of flavor on this job
ben_vulpes: perhaps mircea_popescu plays
a different game here though.
ben_vulpes: also auction not the best model, lowest bidding receiver is not
a particularly good idea.
ascii_field: so if receiver decides that all bets pay properly and mircea_popescu gets
a 17 btc haircut, mircea_popescu will live with this?
mircea_popescu: when
a venture goes into receivership
a person is named (usually by the courts) to receive all the assets, and register all the claims against it. then decide which claims are valiud, and how much they're getting.
mircea_popescu: i'd really ask folk in b-
a with busienss experience to seriously consider doing this.
a clean close-down of
a bitcoin venture would be truly an absolute first.
mircea_popescu: but let's not talk of things being moot and sad stuff like that. instead : bitbet isn't actually missing any bettor funds, the whole receiver thing could be done in
a week.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i'd open
a perimutuel bet that nassim who play receiver, but i don't trust betmoooose
pete_dushenski: declined, though he did manage to leave with US$82 million … in exchange for
a US$300 million mortgage. When Trump’s investors from Hong Kong cashed out more than
a decade later, US$1.8 billion in profits awaited them. Thin-skinned as ever, Trump sued them."
pete_dushenski: "Moneyed folk in Hong Kong know of his phoniness, mainly because of something that happened in the early 1990s. Trump bungled
a real estate deal in New York City, one that would have truly established him as
a titan of America, and he needed cash fast. He came to Hong Kong looking for investors, and met them for
a game of golf. They wanted to play for US$1 million
a hole. Trump knew he was out of his league and
ben_vulpes: no fucking engine. brick wall
a mile high.
ascii_field: aha this is sorta like
a superconductor,
a very small pocket of not-superconducting-no-moar leads to thermal runaway and quench and boom.
ascii_field: any operation can take damage and run
a loss
mircea_popescu: hence my comment about fragility. there are two main threads here that would-be bitcoin entrepreneurs must heed quite closely. one is that - your expense structure is not either
a) in your own control or b) specificable. for as long as your business model involves bitcoin as it currently exists, you're doing the economic equivalent of linking remote dlls.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: for as long as server
A in location
A' could work just as well as server B in location B', it would hold
pete_dushenski: this obviously couldn't strictly be true, but was
a more of philosophical consideration to my mind
pete_dushenski: my two cents on 0assets was always that it was
a nod towards mpex bitcoin businesses having no bounded geographic constraints. '0asset' always meant '0meatspaceasset' in my head.
mircea_popescu: and in spite of being uncharacteristically verbose for
a human being... apparently i don't write everything either.
ascii_field: i suppose it is true that inventor never has half
a clue re the long term.
mircea_popescu: i invent things by degrees and i can't always and on the button answer as to the logic of things. they go in
a context. i know for
a fact the arrangement make sense in 2012, but entirely hazy as to the reasoning.
ben_vulpes: the problem appears to not be "unexpected expense" but
a disagreement between the founders as to the legitimacy of the expense.
ascii_field: anyway while i expect to eventually be smashed into pieces, i do not expect anyone to actually pick any of them up. nor do i really give
a damn.
ascii_field: i can more easily see mircea_popescu raising
a guerilla army in nepal or the like.
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assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 14:32:19; ascii_field: my hypothesis is that he was not paid to lose, as such, but to keep
a particular style of play, and he believed that he could win regardless.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 18:51:57; danielpbarron: jurov> i wonder what alf will do << lemme try and fill in while he's away : mega-snore! ubuntu, the winbl0wz of linux, thought it could make
a smart-f0ne when obviously the mobile world is for usg-blessed corps
danielpbarron: i think there's already
a precedent for the other part; see SEC vs MP
danielpbarron: jurov> i wonder what alf will do << lemme try and fill in while he's away : mega-snore! ubuntu, the winbl0wz of linux, thought it could make
a smart-f0ne when obviously the mobile world is for usg-blessed corps
☟︎ lexborisov: I'm from Russia for
a long time choosing my words. My English is not so good as we would like. Sorry
danielpbarron: in the meantime, do you have
a GPG key lexborisov ?
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 13:14:31; mircea_popescu: let me enlighten you : it's "take
a string that is definitionally misformed html, aka html soup, and transform it into sufficiently well formed html to render".
danielpbarron: yes it's
a public channel in which people with an interest in bitcoin talk about anything
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 13:38:44; mircea_popescu: fluffypony> danielpbarron: it's his strategy <<< well, makes perfect sense. 3-2 win looks
a lot better than 5-0 win, sez google pr.
ascii_field: note also that, breaking with tradition, lee sedol's contract for this game included NO payment for showing up, nor
a loser's prize
ascii_field: my hypothesis is that he was not paid to lose, as such, but to keep
a particular style of play, and he believed that he could win regardless.
☟︎ ascii_field: the pile of 'yes' bets in the last few hours prior to closing, the particulars of how lee sedol went down, and now the 4th - give me
a certain picture.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony> danielpbarron: it's his strategy <<< well, makes perfect sense. 3-2 win looks
a lot better than 5-0 win, sez google pr.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but as
a sidepoint, this "style" thing is
a lot like make-up. most young women look great without it ; in some cases, when well applied, can turn even mediocre women into total knockouts. but by the time it's measured by the lb, it ain't doing anyone any good.
fluffypony: lulling him into
a false sense of security
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well there's
a difference between what it wants to eat and what it shits out
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Apologies for my latest qntra being
a bit on the long side, but had to shame United States Gang while promoting my pet cause of preventing people from being born more retarded than they have to be
phf: but i don't have
a complete blockchain, and since i'm not using any sql type stuff, i need to look into how much space various hashes take up when loaded into memory
phf: the dodgy name betrays
a dodgy abstraction of the "too much shit here, put that shit over there, nice and tidy like" school of code refactoring
phf: but imho SHA256Transform, ScanHash_CryptoPP and BitcoinMiner:3021-3032 would be better of getting rolled into
a single dozen line for-loop
phf: well, doing loops increases runtime of function, but returns
a hash with
a bunch of 00s so presumably
a more expensive check outside has higher chance of inspecting
a relevant value
ben_vulpes: read that as "quote as fuck" for half
a second
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adlai: let's just say that this is not exploitable on
a pogo
adlai: hmm: "By sending 275 messages of size 20MB each [to]
a system with 8GB of ram and 15GB of swap space."
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but he's been running to barter his delegates in
a brokered convention the whole time. Not
a serious candidate like Cruz or Sanders
mircea_popescu: and they "coined
a term" to "help him breakout", something like kasichwhat was it
mircea_popescu: dude, he's something else. such
a mine of unintentional comedy has rarely been seen.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, an ad like how?
a post? or like something on the sidebar?
mod6: you probably should have
a box on your lan that you can periodically offload the block chain to, incase of power outage.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, got
a bunch of drafts going. might have one ready to publish in
a day or two
shinohai: mod6 that looks good will give it
a whirl
phf: ben_vulpes: also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours? << i'm guilty as charged, but it was not intended as
a slight, so please don't take it as such. i needed to clear my head, and while i thought i should reach out, i didn't have it in me. this is not the last time i'm in Oregon this year, so i promise to not make the same mistake again :)