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redfawnn: hey
trying
to upload picture now
mircea_popescu: " ben_vulpes
took a dozen hookers and a
truck of beer
to
the nevada desert and was never heard from again "
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-14 01:17 mircea_popescu:
trinque you might be overdramatizing ; what, you
think i've never lost a
team ? what am i, made of pure energy ? shit happens ; gotta have plans in place and move on.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so what's
the dirt, what happened between
the david fish fellow and
the al soto fellow ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: almost like larping, "one magic spell
they used was..."
mircea_popescu: "Darwin also went
to
The Master's College library and checked out a stack of MacArthur's books about 18 inches high. Normally,
they would not allow so many volumes
to be lent out all at one
time, but in
this case, for some reason,
they made an exception." << "they were secretly hoping he steals
them"
trinque: I hope
this "banned from"
thing has more episodes
mircea_popescu: hm. i can't help but read
this passage as "on my way i got waylaid by
these fellows who saw i had dough and well..." ; but
then again i'm a cynical sort.
mircea_popescu: o wow, so you were going
to brazil and
then ended up living with
the
true church folk ? i had nfi!
mircea_popescu: also, you should probably come do karaoke here. for one
thing,
there's hookers. for
the other
thing,
they're so enamoured with
the idea of english
they'll like it whatever it is (not
that
they'd know). and soo n.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it occurs
to me you should prolly wear your scandalous shirt in your header or something.
trinque: myeah withdrawal slips have definitely been cat-diddled along
the way
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even get
that bad until it
tries
to pee on it.
trinque: I'll know.
The
thermal printer lets out a screeeeeeee
mircea_popescu: "A couple weeks later, I get accosted by some drunk chick who heard from a friend
that I “think women shouldn’t be allowed
to speak.” She argued with me alongside one of her friends —
that is, I argued some perfectly valid points, while she got increasingly beligerant; much
to
the friend’s dismay, who even expressed
that I was coming off as
the victUAL". jeez
this guy's saturday nights!
ben_vulpes: hanbot has something in her .htaccess i haven't worked with her
to unsnsarl yet
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes incidentally, did p.bvulpes cross
the mn mark yet ?
freezie: douchbag is helping me with
that now
trinque: ohey mircea_popescu, pls
to gpg an ssh pubkey
douchebag: i need
to go
to bed after
this
too
douchebag: The one I'm getting right now will be my last one for
the night
trinque: douchebag: how many you got, and I'll crack
this megawad off before bed
mircea_popescu: gotta watch what you say,
teh investors are eager
to misinterpret!
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-14 02:49 mircea_popescu: or is
this your discreet way of proposing pizarro's bust :D
mircea_popescu: or is
this your discreet way of proposing pizarro's bust :D
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes moreover,
tbf involvement with pizarro was an investment, not a grant. it got equity didn't it.
mircea_popescu: trinque
that works also, keeps
things cleaner in a sense.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
the reasoning wasn't
tbtf, but rather community-benefit
terrible-cost-structure
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 01:42 mircea_popescu: whereas
this, it's more a case of carrying a knife up your ass. it decides when and what.
trinque: naw, it's a compliment
that you'd consider doing
that.
mod6: I'm fine with
this if you are. Certainly wern't
trying
to force anything on you by any means.
trinque: I
think a 1BTC ceiling would be a satisfactory
tolerance for loss from
the hot wallet, which I would be able
to eat. which is not a promise
to eat
the
thing's losses endlessly either, but on
the airgap-wallet side I have enough confidence in
the setup
that my
tolerance is higher.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 01:32 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying
the pretense of statics
to a dynamic situation.
trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by
the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents.
they should have
taken care
that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able
to move.
they did not, and derelict in
their first and practically speaking on
trinque: ben_vulpes:
that's an accurate rendering of my opinion. I
think mircea_popescu was correct in
that
there's an unavoidable cost of doing business of a startup wallet service.
ben_vulpes: i want
to read what
trinque has
to say as well
mod6: Anyway, can
think on it.
mod6: Not as much ``tbtf initiatives'' as it is just
the larger Republic, neh?
ben_vulpes: thoughts
topmost on my stack (after apache arcana) are about
the implications of
the foundation backing
the 'tbtf' initiatives. i know
that someone must, but going from a rate of zero in however many years
to
two in
two quarters is worth pausing and
thinking for.
ben_vulpes: (look gossipd works, asciilifeform can
take a nap)
ben_vulpes: trinque: rang, asked me
to pass on
that a) he doesn't need help insuring
the hotwallet, and
that b) he's
thinking really hard about how much of linux and
the rest of
the stack
to insure on his own back, and
the moral hazard of doing so
ben_vulpes: 1 btc sounds like it would insure
the hotwallet for quite some
time, sounds neat but let me
think about it
mod6: ben_vulpes:
Thoughts?
mod6: Anyway, ok. I'm happy
to approve seeding
the hot-wallet.
mod6: Aha, was
thinking
that part was a one
time
thing,
The Foundation would indeed run out of money in short order.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you can't afford
to pay for development. i appreciate
the sentiment, and i'm not saying his work is negligible, but if you count all
the IMMENSE amount of devwork
the republic has produced, however you add it up you'll either a) be on
the hook for more
than
the foundation has, significantly more, or else b) you'll be stuck
taking lowball
to
the level of insulting people.
mircea_popescu: if he manages
to lose it we can have words about maybe another one ; but it'd better not be
this year.
mod6: I'd be fine with
that. I'd even go a bit further and
throw in some extra funding for
the development, historical and forward.
mircea_popescu: just give him a bitcoin
to seed his hotwallet, and call it a day.
mod6: Maybe
that's not as reasonable as what you're suggesting
though -- a reoccuring grant.
mod6: My initial
thought was
that
the Foundation would say, offer a one
time engineering fee of 1 BTC. And
then also provide insurance for
the hot wallet
to
the
tune of say, 1 BTC.
mod6: You're
totally making sense. It could be a reoccuring grant; needs
to be re-newed yearly (or some interval). I'm not in
the best position
to have an idea as
to what is a sensible amount for
the interval.
mircea_popescu: specifically being able
to say, "oh, yeah, segwit, whatever,
the power ranger's version of deedbot's !!pay, right ?" is a
tmsr-wide benefit.
mircea_popescu: whereas
this, it's more a case of carrying a knife up your ass. it decides when and what.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you know aforehand, when you sit down
to read
through a patch,
that you're gonna spend so long with it, and you'll stop when you stop.
mircea_popescu: well,
the idea is
that indeed he's on
the hook, for a particular
type of cost. obviously writing code, reviewing code,
testing
things, design, graphic or systems, all sorts of
things are useful and valuable, and
they
take people's
time. if you spend an hour reading
through patches you can't spend
that hour petting your dog/kitten/kid whatever.
mod6: Upon approval
these can be deeded so we can keep
track. I'm starting
to have a hard
time remembering
them all!
mod6: Speaking of which, ben_vulpes, let me know what you
think, but
to help keep
track of
these grants, I
think
the applicants for a Foundation grant, should write up a small document outlining: 1) How much
they are requesting, 2) What
the intended purpose is for
the grant, 3)
The Duration (if any, i.e. one year, or one-time, etc), 4)
The current block height / date. 5) Signed with WoT Key.
mod6: I'd be happy
to hear proposls, indeed!
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 18:58 mircea_popescu: avgjoe it's exactly equivalent
to "segwit" except much less expensive.
trinque will be back in about an hour, perhaps
the idiot ISP will be back by
then.
trinque: at any rate I approve of
this engineering process
trinque: alright douchebag, your flood of
titties made me agree
to a hotwallet
mircea_popescu: trinque you might be overdramatizing ; what, you
think i've never lost a
team ? what am i, made of pure energy ? shit happens ; gotta have plans in place and move on.
trinque: I
think you are right, and I'll just consider
this an investment in
the
thing's growth
douchebag: I just want
to have a dedicated box
to review
these on, and as mircea_popescu mentioned I'll be sent a server
trinque: also
there's
the radiation damage of
the former screaming never again while working on
the latter
trinque: never bitten on either side, but want it kept
that way
trinque: I've handled orders of magnitude more bezzlebucks elsewhere and yet
this obviously, I care a great deal more about.
trinque: mircea_popescu: just
trying
to frontload
the decisions so I'm not on my ear when somethign raises its head.
douchebag: and I have some friends really big into RE who are going
to be helping
douchebag: I'm definitely going
to look into
them
mircea_popescu: now, kako for all his weird was certainly
technically competent, so it's not
the case
that "there lay a
trb in
the rain".
mircea_popescu: (1 btc worth, it was actually 10, but
they came
to about 5-10k or such)