asciilifeform: 'L'ancien ministre de l'Éducation, pourtant agrégé d'histoire, commet une erreur de dates, puisqu'il y a quarante ans, nous étions en 1977 et que sous le mandat de Valéry Giscard d'Estaing aucun juif ne portait l'étoile jaune.'

asciilifeform: flea as in fleadom!111

asciilifeform: 'unlike our entirely open and untrojaned...'

asciilifeform: speaking of tardware: https://archive.is/9l8z8

asciilifeform: (and/or see the heathen log)

asciilifeform: ask'im yerself

asciilifeform: prolly the latter, d00d is almost lethally lazy

asciilifeform: so is doomed to lolcow

asciilifeform: except he dun like the auditability thing

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (or at least thinks.)

asciilifeform: in other lulz, herr kako loves us enough to try to make own FUCKGOATS and try to undercut

asciilifeform: 'Metropolitan Nagoya has literally thousands of people who can write assembly code that you’d literally trust your life to (you have before and will again, unless your sole method of transportation is bicycles), and probably only a few dozen who you’d want working on a web application. Tokyo has more, but still far too few.' << nuts.

asciilifeform: and shouldn't change again (until we retire gpg)

asciilifeform: ^ was correct last night, trinque ate it in time

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596268 << imho best way would be if it answered normally if a111 is offline ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'oh it's the same text except that i ran this-here perl turd on it and trust me that it works as i said on your perltron' is not vtronic.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596264 << if it isn't apparent to naked eye in ~vtronic~ (e.g., phf's) viewer, it's a total loss of vtronicity. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596254 << work out how many bytes it wants from /dev/random. how long it takes for your box to shit that many? that's your wait . ☝︎

asciilifeform: !!key asciilifeform

asciilifeform: i actually like the crc encyclopaedia moar

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: we had a thread.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it was 'cryptography engineering'

asciilifeform: that s. peddled as a 'replacement' for 'applied crypto'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the blue-cover crapola thing is technically a different b00k

asciilifeform: practical?

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: and nobody needs to 'search by random string', phuctor eats fp.

asciilifeform: probably not all that useful unless part of archive bot.

asciilifeform: a 'this www has apparent pgp signature, let's see whose, and for the record', was the idea.

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: curl http://foo | pgpdump -i | .... to be 'precise'.

asciilifeform: pgpdump -i

asciilifeform: (btw, trinque et al, here's a bot command idea: #!k (for instance) takes url and looks for pgp keyblocks or sigs or any other pgptronic object from which a key bitness , fp, or other interesting attribute can be pgpdump'd, and prints same in log)

asciilifeform: lel, 512b pgp key?!

asciilifeform: herr doktor mengele could not even dream , of what welfare state creates 1,001 every day nao.

asciilifeform: (linked mainly for the comments. seriously, wtf)

asciilifeform: https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ << small vintage lulgem from mircea_popescu's link

asciilifeform: rather like real-life spacecraft.

asciilifeform: these and others are neato but for some reason ~never show up unless hand-built

asciilifeform: d00d dun even drive cars!11

asciilifeform: (there are other variants sold, but mostly 'A' on most of the planet)

asciilifeform: it

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: they have clever nozzles now, but there are always mega-heroes who manage to fuel up with entirely wrong liquid

asciilifeform: (possibly davout might have some input) i recently read an american-flavoured thing re pilotage accidents, and it dwelled on 'jp in petrol tank' , insidious condition where the engine ~will~ start but tends to quit ~during takeoff~, guaranteed corpse ☟︎

asciilifeform: '... and that was how we found that the average policeman is not so smart, but very strong' (from -- iirc -- one of mircea_popescu's articles)

asciilifeform often wondered why the things can't simply be made threaded, and with variant thread

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, the ~only way to achieve this 'feat' is to pour into jerrycan first

asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's scheme, imho it should be written exactly like-so

asciilifeform: tru

asciilifeform: aite, we had thread, i won't repeat

asciilifeform: and RST-idiocy-proof pipe.

asciilifeform: you gotta have the crypto auth.

asciilifeform: how does your box know who are 'friends'

asciilifeform: waiwat

asciilifeform: instead of a few min.

asciilifeform: if being 1 hop closer to a miner now means an hour less avg. delay.

asciilifeform: seems to me like it might unduly empower miners.

asciilifeform: 1 tx / hr / peer will make for one hell of a turtle relay

asciilifeform is a bit more 'doomer' than mircea_popescu on this subj, and does not see a future for 'anyone can send packet to anyone' net in ~general~

asciilifeform: just like i can't go and offer a candidate tx to swift because i feel like it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here i gotta agree, the 'allcomers can get their tx candidates evaluated' is doomed

asciilifeform: it is physical reality, and ergo by definition no moar 'insane' than gravity. unless mircea_popescu offers a breakthrough where we can test doublespendity without keeping blockchain around at all

asciilifeform: (a tx can have valid form in all sense other than being a doublespend, mircea_popescu knows this)

asciilifeform: in those, you also need blockchain

asciilifeform: in the case of verifying a block -- it does

asciilifeform: well the old code has ban(...) which instructs 'this datum was a malicious turd and i dun want no moar from that ip'

asciilifeform: stock trb mempool

asciilifeform: perhaps if nothing could possibly land in the queues faster than it can be eaten, this would not be so.

asciilifeform: (confirmed, experimentally.)

asciilifeform: while i like the 'diode' aspect of this scheme, i will say that my public nodes would fall down in about three seconds, and permanently, if the primitive autobanhammer of gaviniferously-symptomatic peers were to be switched off.

asciilifeform goes to reread mircea_popescu's scheme

asciilifeform: and whatdoyoumean 'no tx', is the thing contemplated a wholly mempool-less node ?

asciilifeform: (banning would, as far as i can tell, require 2way comms b/w the modules)

asciilifeform: in the case of candidate-block and candidate-mempooltx queue receiver (from outside the walls), mircea_popescu proposes to throw out even the weak logic for banning obvious crapola that we have today in trb?

asciilifeform: candidate-block receiver, neh?

asciilifeform: in the tx case, anybody can overwrite legit tx in your buffer by dumping liquishit in.

asciilifeform: aha, incl that part.

asciilifeform: i did

asciilifeform: what happens when evilpeer dumps a TB of liquishit into the queue?

asciilifeform: (trb.b, presumably, polls..?)

asciilifeform: so they talk! via the queue

asciilifeform: who eats the queue then ?

asciilifeform: what am i missing

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how does txtron accept/reject without talking to blockchaintron?

asciilifeform: (every tx in memory relies on its inputs being present , and at all times becomes a threat to crash the process if one should turn out not to be there. ~all pointers potentially dangle . thing is as rotten as could be imagined.)

asciilifeform: and there are no provisions for safely ~removing a tx~ from mempool, ever, at all

asciilifeform: and not only of std::map in the abstract, but of the same set of maps everywhere in trb, simultaneously, and at the same time with the pestilential global locks

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (recall one of the nails in the ethertardium coffin)

asciilifeform: esp. if the actual computation is unbounded

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a non-algebraic ('programmatic') hash algo opens the possibility of crafted cpu-ddos

asciilifeform: (and tends to be small)

asciilifeform: because it is bounded

asciilifeform: this is great from many pov but imposes own cost.

asciilifeform: they are arithmetical, because the designers insisted that the hash be computable in fixed number of cpu cycles.

asciilifeform: all well-known hash algos, afaik, lack this property.

asciilifeform: essentially, anything where you cannot, in any practical computer, express the hash's reversal as an n-sat problem