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danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1435136 << still having a hard time with this. Wouldn't shifting the nonce just leave you with another nonce? I don't understand how it would line up with multiple nonces.. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: once they get an actual suleyman, impalements have a better chance.
mircea_popescu: anyway, impalement is what i'd do. established absolute ruler of great power and etc. isis isn't that, just a swarming mob. of course they prefer beheadings, manlier.
asciilifeform: an i am, approx., a pro amputator.
mircea_popescu: "i dunno, maybe most of you die in a large pit fire ?"
asciilifeform: it works - for a spell - against waffen ss, but not king hunger.
mircea_popescu: "correct like the jews". should be a trope.
mircea_popescu: it's a concept more correctly derived from crystallography, of which he's unaware :
asciilifeform: are these folks really imagining they will defend in a siege from a row house ?
mircea_popescu: and YOU can just as well have a trusted computer to print out the digital store.
mircea_popescu: oh hey check it out, wikipedia manages a 5k word article on "allied invasion of sicily" without the words "cosa nostra", "mafia" or "vizzini". way to go, history by the retards, for the retards, a complete pie!
asciilifeform: we have a pretty good handle on stupidity though.
mircea_popescu: yes, mass you can presume you'll fuck for a cracker.
mircea_popescu: IF you can stay carefully out in a domain where the newtonian approximation is close enough, THEN you'll be ok with that idea of intelligence.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1435057 << he has a good point. ☝︎
gribble: Know Nothing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing>; Know-Nothing party | political party, United States | Britannica.com: <http://www.britannica.com/topic/Know-Nothing-party>; Freedom: A History of US. Webisode 8: Who's Land is This?. - PBS: <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/historyofus/web08/segment5.html>
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron an important point to consider is the data & i/o meaning of "1 petahash". if each single hash requires 256 bits of data to proceed, you are looking at 32 petabytes of data that has to move. in a second ? ouch.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 03:25:18; punkman: "At 42X Reduction, a 215 ft. Roll of Archive Microfilm will hold approximately 12,300 images"
mircea_popescu: phf for my curiosity, what's your classification of "b-a rhetorics" ? anarcho-neoliberal ? deco-existentialist ?
mircea_popescu: (to explain my thought process to the curious bystander - i would have seriously considered the application of a fiat-based receiver with provable practice but innocent of the wot over solrodar's ; i won't consider such over davout's. this means that in the past coupla days a window for some people to actually make their corpses useful to the world opened and closed - notwithstanding their or anyone else's pretense to ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 03:10:26; phf: i periodically revisit his page for inspiration, but i suspect that's he's probably some form of northern european anarcho leftist, which now's been fashionable long enough to perhaps swing back to fascism again. in other words he will probably find b-a rhetoric toxic. but i'm guessing from spending much time with other members of that crowd
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1435024 << it is a sin, i will point out, to act today on the basis of an evaluation of tomorrow. please, causes. forget effects. THEY are toxic. ☝︎
davout: well i did get that and read it, but i don't have any particular assets or connections other than my wot and history that put me in a particularly better position than others to do the job
mircea_popescu: there's a list there. don't have to go through it as is, read it, think it through also works.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 00:55:05; mircea_popescu: i don't think you take my meaning. have you for instance ever auctioned a domain name successfully ? are you well known in those circles ? anything ?
davout: mircea_popescu: ask something a bit more specific maybe?
davout: that would be three-fold: not charge more than a few percent for the whole liquidation, evaluate all claims against bitbet in light of its actual contract (and more specifically, the 3.2 (d) clause), try to get as much as possible from the non-cash assets, and (quite importantly) not disappear with the cash
assbot: 0 results for 'https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4aqi1s/these_42_bitcoin_projects_were_shutdown_by_an/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FBitcoin%2Fcomments%2F4aqi1s%2Fthese_42_bitcoin_projects_were_shutdown_by_an%2F
mircea_popescu: and this is why neither ethics nor iqs are a thing.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental problem of ethics, that you can't have an intelligent justification of will, merely a willful justification of intelligence.
mircea_popescu: will may give restrictions of domain upon which an intelligence function may be constructed so it's coherent, but this then doesn't provide a method to justify the will upon which the whole construction is based.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to round up yest's discussion of intelligence : if your putative beast that eats its brain does so in an actual maximum point, then the behaviour of eating the brain is intelligent ; if however it does so in a local maximum point that is later within its lifetime invalidated by events, then the same exact behaviour was unintelligent.
funkenstein_: a wise man knows he is a fool
punkman: "At 42X Reduction, a 215 ft. Roll of Archive Microfilm will hold approximately 12,300 images" ☟︎
asciilifeform: punkman: not sure if i ever viewed a microfilm reel without blots
mod6: anyway, think it over for a bit. i'll get some coins into the foundation in a few days and then will try to write something up that can be signed.
punkman: "We didn’t see any of this happening,” Ramos said. “They’re saying Michael wanted to kill himself. We just don’t know.” She said that Michael Ford’s mother suffered a heart attack after police in Prince George’s burst into her house to search it following the shooting and that she is now at the same hospital as her son." << we just don't know, lol
asciilifeform: phf: actually i see him as something more like a lacan who dropped out of physics, or the like
asciilifeform: but simply takes a piece of film.
asciilifeform: but these possibly can be commoditized into a thing that contains no logic as such
phf: i periodically revisit his page for inspiration, but i suspect that's he's probably some form of northern european anarcho leftist, which now's been fashionable long enough to perhaps swing back to fascism again. in other words he will probably find b-a rhetoric toxic. but i'm guessing from spending much time with other members of that crowd ☟︎
asciilifeform: and dies after a period of time, the attached process running on the computer is terminated or killed. Warning: psplague can result in a more or less instantaneous hard crash.'
asciilifeform: 'Inspired by Julian Oliver's psworld, psplague further explores the links between environment (simulation) and code. Rather than mapping a computer's internal processes onto visual features in the world (as in the case of psworld), in this instance (psplague) UNIX-like processes are attached to medieval villagers within a simple SIR (susceptible, infected, recovered) model of plague infection. When a villager becomes infected
asciilifeform: t barely touch the skin of the hand. The repetitive rhythms of changing operational codes, as an application for example initialises its opening state, are translated into the hypnotic, up and down movements of the needle (making use in the second prototype of a CD-ROM ejection mechanism), appearing somewhat like the slowed, jerked motions of a sewing machine.'
asciilifeform: e' (whilst a common program such as the Firefox web browser is running) into the slow and painful inscription of a needle, piercing the skin of the operator or user's hand. A particular, common operational code such as that dictating the movement of the contents of one place in memory to another location, results in the needle achieving a certain depth in the hand, another opcode, say demanding the addition of two values, migh
asciilifeform: 'Inspired in part by a cursory reading of Kafka's short story, In the Penal Colony, in which a complex executable mechanism, its workings and social procedure, are described, a mechanism which inscribes the sentence (of the law) directly on the skin of the 'Condemned Man', pain registers attempts to directly translate or transfer the operational codes which are running on a computer's CPU (Central Processing Unit) in 'real tim
asciilifeform: 'The Dark Interpreter is influenced and guided by body capacitance, skin resistance, biological micro-voltages and the fleshy conduction of all signals. These are ways of saying that the Dark Interpreter is completely open. It is not to be considered as a closed and bounded device which is subject to an exterior control "by the body." The Dark Interpreter is an electronic and thus earthy shadow of the body, it is (inside) the
asciilifeform: it is a dismal thing, to play chess with self.
asciilifeform: enemy can be persuaded to make a good faith effort to at least occasionally find his arse
phf: this is a borderline art project
asciilifeform: phf et al: to continue the eprom thread, i was never satisfied with the lights box answer to 'how to keep rom burner from lying'. what i really want is a photographic rom, where the storage die is something like 'microdot' and the reader is generic (in chip package) & separable.
kakobrekla: aha interesting concept but missing a lot to make it practically useful
asciilifeform: http://www.elweb.cz/fotky/400.jpg << interesting serendipitous find. a cpu-less rs232 viewer (some brain required!111) i thought about this very thing some years ago, and laughed it off mentally, but someone - built.
BingoBoingo: Anyways worldstar isn't a tmsr thing, it's more an internet thing. basically If you sucker punch someone it is normally assault. If you shout "World Star" while you do it, it becomes instead a prank.
funkenstein_: get a new map if you need one
funkenstein_: so you are comparing usistan to a place you know nothing about?
mircea_popescu: there is no justice outside of the public forum. if party can not speak in public, it may not pretend like it has a case.
funkenstein_: so in this suggested coin you have proof a pool operator (aka miner) has a full copy of the block chain
assbot: 499 results for 'worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=worthless
funkenstein_: its a coin with multiple difficulties for each hash function they use
funkenstein_: could be added in a la myriad, with separate difficulty
mod6: kakobrekla: if you don't like the weather, just wait a few days.
funkenstein_: aha a separate hashing of solely the proof of storage digest, this looks like it could work
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1434837 < the very same btc said to be worthless/useless/br0kended a couple of days ago ☝︎
mod6: but it's a hell of a lot more than you get when you just volunteer for some shit.
mod6: well, no one said you were gonna live off of 2 BTC a year, unless you live on the dock and eat fish-heads for dinner every night.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 00:14:09; mircea_popescu: and holy shit b-a is hiring like crazy, where are all the people looking for jerbs,
mod6: *nod* yeah, needs to be editable in a way incase of mis-quote or something.
mircea_popescu: actially a wiki format prolly IS best for this,
mod6: shinohai: eh, I'd say more like a really well kept-up wiki, but yea, that's kinda the idea.
shinohai: so make a state of therealbitcoin address for dummies?
mircea_popescu: sorta like a careful bash of technical discussions rather than lulz.
mircea_popescu: write down a summary of all the important shit.
mircea_popescu: yeah but it's a certain sort of job for a certain sorta person.
mircea_popescu: course the other end is harder. who can even do a good job of this.
mod6: ben_vulpes: any thoughts on this? If I dump 10 BTC to the foundation, will you approve 2BTC/yr for a stenographer?
mircea_popescu: and holy shit b-a is hiring like crazy, where are all the people looking for jerbs, ☟︎
mod6: naw, this is a mod6 request.
mircea_popescu: wrap every important detail in a buttsekcs condom ?
mod6: unless we use a flag, like BUTTSECKS.
mod6: we need like a tmsr stenographer.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, currently nodes only need disk ; cpu is wasted. ideally a node should use both, so that it makes sense to keep boxes as relay nodes.
mircea_popescu: just... a little breather for nodes.
mircea_popescu: now, your observation is correct in that this possibility puts a hard limit on how much miners can be raped.
jurov: well then my comment still applies - miner can keep the nonce constant and churn hash1 by changing one transaction in a cycle
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's not entirely impossible to make the shifting a function of difficulty differential (note that there isn't a rule BOTH hashes have to be under THE SAME number. if there's two numbers, you could have an equalizer algo that does the shift moving)
mod6: well, i guess one could just add in the shifting and then make it a toggleable things.
mircea_popescu: knob 1 above decides whether to obsolete current miners entirely or just partially, and is a [true] soft vs hard fork ; knob 2 decides how much i/o pressure to put on relay nodes ; knob 3 decides how much relay work to require in the mix.
mod6: it's too bad we're so time constrained on this, it'd be nice to see a poc of both : with shifting and without.
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1S52R51 )
mircea_popescu: out of every Nth preceding block, the nonce-th byte is put in a string ; the combine hashed.
mircea_popescu: this is a twistable knob.
mircea_popescu: BOTH hash 1 and hash 2 have to be under a number to qualify as a found block.
mircea_popescu: in the proposed model : a header is calculated, same way. to this, anonce is added, the combine hashed. this is hash 1. a digest is calculated, on the basis of past blocks. to this, the SAME nonce is added. the combine hashed. this is hash 2
mircea_popescu: ok. so currently, for every block being mined : a header is calculated ; to this a nonce is added, the combine hashed. the resultant hash has to be smaller than a number to qualify as a found block.
mircea_popescu: maybe it'd benefit from a going over once more.
mircea_popescu: healing the relay-miner divide, if in fact the thing on trilema does it, would be a great one.
mod6: However, my main objective is still to finish up the v054 release before diving into any of that quite yet. It's my fault, I havent done jack-shit all month basically. I've been meaning to work with trinque and get these makefiles battle-ready, but have had a number of meatspace things get in the way.
mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque phf, et. al., I've been mulling it over while i've been following the logs for some days now about what seems like a good fork to have in our possession: at this point, im inclined to think implementation of Mr. P.'s outlined ideas are the best choice, currently.
mod6: <+trinque> mod6: what's the proper way to get you changes for v.pl? would be nice when press blows up to be told what vpatch barfed. want to just add that yourself? << hey, uumm... so yeah, i think it does tell you which one barfed on press. did you use (v | verbose) in there? or have a dpaste of what it did?