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assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 07:43:11; mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then
a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to
a list of loglines ?
mircea_popescu: pretty much the ~only way such an attempt ends up is into
a f-35, sooner or later.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 23:50:23; mircea_popescu: for the record, and to revisit that old definition of "public" ie the forum vs "private" ie the gynacaeum, something is public when it has what has been here referred to as
a "real" part. ie, when it is possible to make
a definition for it that is meaningful for everyone.
mircea_popescu: for the record, and to revisit that old definition of "public" ie the forum vs "private" ie the gynacaeum, something is public when it has what has been here referred to as
a "real" part. ie, when it is possible to make
a definition for it that is meaningful for everyone.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: wot is not supporting of
a single notion of identity. what x signature is varies irreconcillably among the users, by design and deliberately.
mircea_popescu: it's stress syndrome already, lifeforms fully aware they live in shit. "i'ma make myself
a house!"
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 23:11:33; mircea_popescu: in
a different restatement, people "willing to take responsibility for their actions" only has an imaginary part, and no real part ; for the necessary reason that responsibility can not be defined coherently in the real space.
mircea_popescu: in
a different restatement, people "willing to take responsibility for their actions" only has an imaginary part, and no real part ; for the necessary reason that responsibility can not be defined coherently in the real space.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ematics is known as
a pole. attempts to create
a netherworld between the sharply divergent f(x) and f(x+e) is what i've recently discovered - through the usual stepping on research process - to be
a landmine.
phf: i usually fail to come back to lists, but i think i've read most things recommended on b-
a, the frequency is actually low enough that you can put things in
a pile and catch up pretty fast
ben_vulpes hands trinque
a pineapple and broomstick
trinque: I want lists of things. I am not
a damned secretary
trinque: mod6: incidentally, list-o-megab00ks would be
a great use case for that !tag thing
mod6: but I think I might take
a stab at writting it in ada so I can learn that with
a proper example instead.
mats: is this
a slav thing, 'concent', 'syndevs'?
phf: like if forced i could spend rest of life with
a dos machine, can't say the same for os x 10.10, but that of course assumes that i somehow don't ever have to work, and in fact live in
a "concent" for the rest of life
phf: mod6: low cognitive load, for
a significant payoff. great games, enough useful software to solve all day to day problems,
a handful of dev environments (including emacs, gcc, clisp besides native Turbo * stuff) to solve any possible problems that might come up
phf: main reason gpg is turd, because was written for dos and frozen into spec that way. provided functionally is composite and doesn't "do one thing well". instead of freeform key annotation has explicit "name, email, comment" fields, instead of easy way to spawn many keys, has
a convoluted key hierarchy, etc.
trinque: hm yeah, dunno how I was getting exit 0; might've been
a case of having used inferior-shell wrong earlier
phf: trinque: because gpg --verify is not intended to be used in batch process, if you're doing verification specifically should be using gpgv, which also expects env (keys in dbs specifically) to be in
a certain state
trinque: I was horrified to discover yesterday that gpg does not exit nonzero when
a sig doesn't verify
mod6: asciilifeform: if the various bits for hands/eyes/heart/brain are not to be in anyway invovled with
a signature, any thoughts on how we pass these around with the signature?
mod6: phf: well, other than saying "interesting" and "cool", i couldn't figure out how to do that either. unless we create
a vtron signature style in 'g' or is it 'p'? i cant recall.. cause how will someones vtron be able to pull the bit string out to know how to categorize someones seal?
mod6: you've been over this
a hundred times im sure.
mod6: -connect is great for getting blocks from
a trusted node, but you're only connected to just that node. so if there is some sort of blocking issue... you might get starved.
mod6: once fully sync'd pete_dushenski, make
a back up your your block chain, and then use -addnode
mod6: is it crazy to think that said chip you're talking about be re-constructed on
a fpga, perhaps many of them on one fpga?
mod6: i should look at some 80's hardware and see if I can spin up
a rig.
mod6: i think i need to start doing all of my computing with paper and pencil, in
a room with no doors, no windows or lights.
mod6: we've got
a lot of stuff to fabricate and create.
mod6: asciilifeform: hm. im misremembering something. eitherway, outside of well, anywhere really, i can't think of
a single place in the known universe where the nsa can't diddle your shit.
mod6: But my good man,
a serious cornerstone / building block to sanity and in the direction of "workable" computer will come when your work is complete and I can get quality random numbers.
davout: asciilifeform: with tmsr~ spanning
a few timezones, there's bound to always be someone with an open bottle
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 19:49:37; mircea_popescu: yeah, sure, not
a difficult one for as long as one lives on imaginary half mil
a year and theorizes away. in practice, it will not be seen, nor has it.
mod6: its like
a house in malibu, built on stilts, on the side of
a hill that mud slides after .25" of rain.
mod6: until we have computers, and i mean "have computers" in the sense that alf would be happy to say he has
a "comptuer", whatever that means.
mod6: mircea_popescu: formally,
a group would have to be constructed to investigate and analyze failures and place blame where beyond required -- if it can be proved beyond any doubt.
mircea_popescu: yeah, sure, not
a difficult one for as long as one lives on imaginary half mil
a year and theorizes away. in practice, it will not be seen, nor has it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mod6 in any case, the idea of responsibility in software is
a lot more difficult to implement than previously hoped.
nubbins`: asciilifeform no, on first chuff it looks sensible; not that much more long-winded than
a file permissions block
mod6: <+asciilifeform> well, the implicit 'i swear with my life to this' - leaves me reluctant to sign anything i did not write 100% of << and who's to say, even if you wrote everything at one layer, that something doesn't fuck you in the butt from
a layer below? we don't have computers. never did.
nubbins`: asciilifeform multi-bit vector pgp sounds about as rat-nesty as
a tag-based log tracking system
mircea_popescu: i imagine that's
a rabbit with
a whiplash sore penis huh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> right now, i expect to sign something half-baked that then crashes on some dirigible and gets me excommunicated << this is
a very cogent point ; and i feel rather the same way.
nubbins`: went to fight
a parking ticket today, the crown had no evidence and the cop who wrote the ticket didn't show up
mircea_popescu: jurov> and if your wot peer starts spamming with facebooky comments, just remove him << it's not so simple, really. it's not
a sudden and visible thing, just slow slide towards shitworld where you wake up one day and wonder wtf happened. much like irl marriages.
thestringpuller: "In mathematical field of representation theory,
a quaternionic representation is
a representation on
a complex vector space V with an invariant quaternionic structure"
ben_vulpes: "this may contain pernicious hdd-wrecking nasties i'm unaware of, but is the closest thing to
a bitcoinator i know of"?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've been waiting for the "what does
a signature convey" conversation to sign anything.
trinque: I see the benefit of "this seal is just
a messenger"
trinque: perhaps; that's my first stab at
a reaction