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mircea_popescu: and the anthill optimizes for the ... pointer to the function which is... the element of the anthill ?
mircea_popescu: you know, data type. that i can put in an ada-like manual and write a compiler for.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes, but the trouble is not only that your guess is not formal - it's that your guess is not formalizable.
mircea_popescu: yes, they optimized. what ? von kaman's underpants, that's what.
mircea_popescu: how about we just agree that the data type of the optimized variable is not computable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, so they didn't have samarae where the ant came from ?
mircea_popescu: contradicts my naive expectations as to what "optimization" is.
mircea_popescu: but apparently... the acer seed / wind combo hasn't needed any optimization or anything hence.
mircea_popescu: you'd think they had wind back in 50`000`000 bc back when ants were a hot new gizmo.
mircea_popescu: the sail blows in the wind, topples it, the animal will happily spend half an hour spinning in a dime's area.
mircea_popescu: the general impression is of an ant that decided to take up yachting
mircea_popescu: this country has a lot of foraging ant species. i enjoy watching them. on numerous occasions i have observed individual ant dragging acer type seed.
mircea_popescu: it works as a retrospective, "looking at this anthill, it becomes evident it mostly managed to feed itself historically". yes. so... what.
mircea_popescu: jurov this "ants optimize paths to food" is like saying "trump won the election". o, really, he did ?
mircea_popescu: (this is my stock question to cut the new age-y idiots at the knees. "oh ant colony optimizes" "what ?". sooner or later they realise they can't actually SAY what the fuck it is, because it's not a scalar ; nor a vector nor a bitfield. yes they optimize something, now put it in a hard typed language. what is it ?)
mircea_popescu: "i've never seen anything remotely as annoying as prolog, with the notable exception of makefiles, running on top of a wonderful inference engine of their own" << ahaha!
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea was similar - war is won by the shovel means same thing, that indirect effects drown out direct effects.
mircea_popescu: (classical antiquity take on it - they didn't have radios)
mircea_popescu: we agree, hence my various stances on language and its effects.
mircea_popescu: perhaps rsa. though i'm entirely unconvinced it's not to be found in medieval arithmetics.
mircea_popescu: the same 60-70 years that failed to produce anything woreth the mention in ai also failed to produce an even vaguely coherent model of the state, or of any sort of identity in any field, or of you pick it. not even their distribution models work.
mircea_popescu: be they "how to run your household" or "how do do war and diplomacy" or anything else ABSOLUTELY.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the approaches "ever tried" have been "ever tried" in a short period of history which is chiefly distinguished by the incredible quality that NONE of the approaches tried, in ANY fields, worked to any degree or produced anything of interest.
mircea_popescu: see the "your brain is not a thinking mechanism" discussions.
mircea_popescu: but then again : the most hardcore anti-ai stance, and the one to which i vaguely subscribe, is to observe that the 1 is entirely illusory
mircea_popescu: now then : the issue of arbitrarily hard ai existing / being produced is separate of same being produced ~by you~. for any definition of you.
mircea_popescu: people who believe in immaculate conception manage to reproduce just fine etc.
mircea_popescu: understand that in order for the cunt to work, you don't have to understand its parts and mechanisms. iraqi "elite forces" use bridges and cartridges just fine even though they evidently can't make either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the brain is a shambling horror of cells.
mircea_popescu: i can grant that ai is a psychiatric issue of plenty of computer programmers ; i can even grant that it is perhaps best to pretend like ai is "impossible" in the sense he means to perhaps cure the idiots.
mircea_popescu: i guess in his terms this makes me an ai weenie. you know, like hofstadter.
mircea_popescu: i must confes : that i am not sufficiently an idealist to presume some sort of "human-brain-substance" that's somehow irreproducible in any other paradigm than via cunt-perl.
mircea_popescu: well it's also not clear the interface/drill bit dichotomy is supported by his piece.
mircea_popescu: as the idea is to make ai not a"i". THAT we already have.
mircea_popescu: yes but if he is seriously contemplating a distinction along those lines his whole piece just exploded into unrelatable islands.
mircea_popescu: "If the thing is even remotely close to "intelligent", you can no longer issue commands; you must explain yourself and ask for something and then it will misunderstand you." << he's wrong, incidentally. intelligent and obedient are not in any way orthogonal, a matter i have verified experimentally to my satisfaction.
mircea_popescu: oney if you mention AI anywhere in your business plan."
mircea_popescu: but on the other side of the coin, "As you probably already know, but my trademark thoroughness still obliges me to say, AI stands for "Artificial Intelligence" and comes in two flavors, "deterministic" (like minmax) and "statistical" (like SVM). The combined efforts of various researches lead to an important breakthrough in this field, known to meteorologists as "the AI winter". This is the season when you can't get any VC m
mircea_popescu: pedophile old men like paul graham & friends used to CORRUPT the athenian youth
mircea_popescu: "kids will virtual currency too" ? what is this, illiterate indians will preet as well ?
mircea_popescu: phf ironically punk (90s, romania) was uncharacteristically tolerant of faggotry. discreet, but present. "rockers" much less tolerant.
mircea_popescu: to my eyes the whole "social media" is running out of attraction juice, but what do i know.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure the guy reads the log with some sort of frequency.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: im npot even aware people were allowed to be married ; let alone have children. really, punk fathers ?
mircea_popescu: phf male children, you crack lightly nose bleeds / eyes leak.
mircea_popescu: enforced through the dual a) must be able to handle being punched b) must have tits approach.
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno wtf punk schene this is, but children were never allowed anywhere near, to my knowledge.
mircea_popescu: this is the true cause of us law prolixity / enforcement sparsity.
mircea_popescu: no, no. more bezzle : the new jersey lawyers get to pretend like they ACHIEVED ; the eff get to pretend like they mattered ; the students get to pretend they were cool.
mircea_popescu: ^ idiots managed to fuck up their site ; all links to answers are 404
mircea_popescu: as in, orcs flooded new york ; bereft of any means to do anything ; ended up in harlem.
mircea_popescu: you realise it's about five times the size of new york ? it's a village.
mircea_popescu: really, the notion that buenos aires is a CITY is ridiculous on its face.
mircea_popescu: and so the plague, and the great fire of london, and so on.
mircea_popescu: so if poorfag gets a dollar, he's much more likely to apply that dollar towards going further away from the high density rats nest than towards getting the very high density rats nest closer to habitable standard.
mircea_popescu: this is perpetually the case, the people who live in high density live there because they can't afford lower density ; but the needs of various countermeasures are greater the higher the density (exponentially).
mircea_popescu: certainly high density overvalued property (ny, sf, etc) is unmaintained to standards.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is very lulzy because a VERY similar fire in bucharest resulted in a govt shuffle.
mircea_popescu: that looks a lot like a crate full of electronic parts.
mircea_popescu: poor BingoBoingo is oppressed by a manifest news drought.
mircea_popescu: yes one could dissect it to find the cappers and fuck your pw, but this is a lot less easy than most anythingelse.
mircea_popescu: anyway - even if the client src is published - it will ship with pw_prefix = "" pw_suffix ="". if you edit these and recompile your pw won't work on stock or anyone else's client, and there's no rule you have to compile on the exact machine you use. you can keep the src in your safe and run object code.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking maybe someone gets abused cs done in time.