asciilifeform: they don't operate by voting, no. they bus the inner city professional sad sacks 'helpfully' to the polls, and let'em know for whom to vote.
asciilifeform: 'Некоторым родителям удавалось по блату достать «прибалтийскую» форму, она была приятного шоколадного цвета и шилась не из шерсти, а из какого-то мягкого материала.' << until this very day asciilifeform had nfi why some of his classmates were 'brownshirts' !
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: did the prbistas even distribute bins for anything but winblowz ?
asciilifeform: with mtgox, he will, if he has half a brain, understand that he has 0 btc, but buncha promises. but with prb, might have delusion of control
asciilifeform: the 1 place i must disagree is 'idiocy outside does not matter to adult. the sweat i put in to remove the fleas from trb, but also from many other things so that i could even attempt that work, was quite real.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm, interesting. though no one ought to be surprised to not find a phf & co. for $randomshitlang
asciilifeform: (1920s folx -- straight into meatgrinder)
asciilifeform: other than 'hey if you're an adult and weren't born yesterday, Things Work'
asciilifeform: aah but in order to agree, i would have to figure out what mircea_popescu's was!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, 'modern computing' folx are essentially characters from lem's 'futurological congress', thinking that they have all kinds of neato tech, e.g., robot servants, but the latter are just d00ds doped up to think they are robots, and those served -- doped up also, to think they own robots, etc.
asciilifeform: i will confess, at one point i contemplated a 'vtronic bsd', but i have difficulty mustering any further enthusiasm for keeping unix on life support
asciilifeform: but ~somebody~ is stuck with the thankless chore of determining which package gotta ./configure with --no-herp, which -- --no-derp, etc
asciilifeform: this is one of those items that needs curator.
asciilifeform: just say, honestly, 'the year of our lord is motherfucking 1975 and there is no such thing as autoloading of proggies from network, what is this, science fiction'
asciilifeform: and yes, ~adult~ knows how to do this
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit my actual complaint re openbsd -- if i want emacs but NOT dbus, i am reduced to, more or less, 'make own unix', rather than using openbsd as such.
asciilifeform: eh that's too easy and includes most of the extant crapola, trinque
asciilifeform: in ~that~ sense, my copy of os/2 warp still worx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for so long as you don't attempt install of ANYTHING not found on selfsame disks -- worx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is 'download', and there is 'distill from unicorn juice', and i suppose there is, in mircea_popescu's case, 3rd button on the dial, 'ask friend to do it'. but i do not know of a 4th button.
asciilifeform: i.e. thing was less sanitary, by long shot, than the shoddiest gentoo.
asciilifeform: i soured almost totally on openbsd when i labouriously set up a box, with all of the proggies i rely on for daily use, and found that emacs COULD NOT be de-poetteringized without eschewing the ports system entirely
asciilifeform: (today, only mine, and trinque's, and maybe 5 other d00dz have 'personal' gentoos that still behave this way. fueled with unicorn cunt juice.)
asciilifeform: gentoo at one point could have been described this way.
asciilifeform: a respectable linux will include a knife for mercilessly cutting through this 'web'.
asciilifeform: but my q was in re 'does it properly ban the poetteringization'
