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asciilifeform: i thought 'classic' was just normal prb but with 2mb constant.
jurov: "Bitcoin Classic is ready and being run in production today by a number of bitcoin companies. Bitcoin Core has produced no such option that is production ready, and seems committed to putting out sub-optimal solutions that I described above."
mircea_popescu: i'm offering 14 btc for the arrest and conviction of this particular redditard by isis
punkman: maybe I should post a reddit bounty
punkman: if anyone's selling 100eur notes for 50eur, I'll buy all of them
shinohai: Even if I had a magical way to recover said BTC
shinohai: I'll be damned if I help someone that stores 28 Bitcoin in an online wallet
mircea_popescu: then the same fucking idiots come by to "comment" on shit i do. as if we're all people now or something, in the same sense.
mircea_popescu: "i think i'm mp to offer bounties. what, i should have money ?"
mircea_popescu: "I am offering a 14 Bitcoin Bounty leading to the arrest, conviction, AND return of my 28 Bitcoins that were stolen from me." << fancy that idiocy.
mircea_popescu: shinohai plox to offer short intro for redditard/other tard links. i ended up looking at that only to see that, typical for the mob, it's not any sort of bounty, but a conditional offer predicated on the impossible.
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/492b8r/bitcoin_bounty_offered_of_14_bitcoins/ " I sent them a text calling them a Pig Fucker"
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo I couldn't come up with a lulzy enough filler for that story so gonna pass it on to whoever wants it.
diana_coman: bwahahaha AND I teach him ...percentages!
mircea_popescu: i think b-a is ruining me for interidiotnet.
mircea_popescu: i recall trying this once before, yars ago, and not being quite as oripilated.
mircea_popescu: well... that i can see.
mircea_popescu: it is an institution. it is when a man is invited to seat at a table, and he explains that "you will have to seat five women, because i am not married - i am haremed."
asciilifeform: l0l, lacking an intel dept., i can't be entirely certain that he does not.
asciilifeform: but for all i know, this norvig is a joker and the real norvig is with his harem.
asciilifeform: which, as far as i can tell, does not yet protrude into meatspace in a way visible to naked eye
asciilifeform: now i'm lost.
asciilifeform: but sure, i get it, molotov didn't even get to demand that his wife be let go from gulag.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: i'd demand at least a t3 in his place.
danielpbarron: heh, also tonight i learned that you do not want to squeeze a kiwi, but I have not yet ruled out muddling
danielpbarron: and to my surprise the quarter orange i decided to go with is not overpowered by the whole grapefruit or the half lime/lemon
danielpbarron is now trying his first attempt at a sort-of cantarina (sort-of because apparently it's supposed to have club soda, although I'm not sure if that's a requirement, or if a side-effect of most bars not having fresh grapefruit and use a grapefruit flavored soda instead)
shinohai: I am guaranteed kinky sex tonight when gf gets here and tastes it.
shinohai: Yeah upon further investigation I decided it was a non-event.
shinohai: Disney, mircea_popescu style: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1457141383727.png
shinohai: I was at the liquor store and was like "Hey danielpbarron made a blog post about some drink today, lemme try that!"
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> this having a blog thing is pretty sweet; wish I started it sooner! << HA!
shinohai: I am trying your drink recipe tonight danielpbarron I think I got everything I needed.
danielpbarron: this having a blog thing is pretty sweet; wish I started it sooner! I got a finished article in the hopper, and a stub still to be fleshed out.
asciilifeform: i could've sworn we had a thread.
asciilifeform: i think so.
asciilifeform: but i can't fathom WHY he did it
asciilifeform: 'For dirmngr I made liberal use of getaddrinfo w/o
asciilifeform: how long, i wonder, has koch been dead.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I see the malice in the act, but am commenting on the pervasiveness of propaganda such that malicious acts can be projected through many obedient, subservient nodes
asciilifeform: anyway i have a fat bag of this horror
asciilifeform: but imho i found the '2nd law of thermo' in re bitcoin- the nothing-for-showing-up principle.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps i had everything backwards << which is exactly my metapoint here. for as long as such can occur, it is CLEAR we don't have the perimeter of this thing yet.
asciilifeform: perhaps i had everything backwards.. possibly, being able to transact ~without~ mining, is the bug. not mining...
shinohai: Shit bbib I need a drink.
mircea_popescu: i loved that when i was... i dunno, 9 ?
BingoBoingo: Since you submitted this I expect you to resumbit better this.
BingoBoingo: I know that's why now you gotta practiced.
shinohai: I warned you I was a very green journalist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was so miserable i even deleted it from ram.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i did not. << you saw it, you didn't like it
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying - if you're actually designing, you DESIGN.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as i said, just example.
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether they make good pets tho
shinohai: Just realized I had a misspelling in that dpaste I sent BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think they even ~make~ non-hot gurlz in ar
mircea_popescu: o hey! check me out i'm a qntra star!
mircea_popescu: heck, i usually forget two.
mircea_popescu: im not even sure I know which! there's too many. and the bitch with things like these is you always forget one.
asciilifeform: i suspect that we all here know which.
mircea_popescu: i just put that there to generally and pars pro toto show that when i say bitcoin is a steaming pile of shit, and broadly an undesigned kludge i mean very specific things.
asciilifeform: i like unitary coinz.
mircea_popescu: (yes i'm aware that the above example allows no payments other than in multiples of 50 btc for a while, then multiples of 25, and EVENTUALLY in sasothis. MIND YOU that this is a feature and what you are using now a bug - da fuck do you do when the coinbase is split up in all the satoshis it could be ? ha ? oh, "works for you as it is" ? ty.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2016#1422061 << i betcha that mircea_popescu could make an argument for nat! perhaps involving greek slavegurlz who can only speak outside the households through master's lips, or the like. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how this is supposed to be an argument against sane design i have no idea, but whatevs, "kludge works for me" is how we get kludges ever since kludge one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose his idea is, in plainer english, that in principle fee is no deterrent, because if he makes 1mn txn that are all valid but spend the same inputs, only one can be eventgually mined and so he can create as many txn as he wants for you to relay and only pay the fee once, eventually. whereas only keeping the first seen one protects from this.
jurov: yes this needs some examples and i don't have it
jurov: overall, i feel i can't explain myself well to you no matter what i try
mircea_popescu: but this aside. so you said nat routers are stupid and i said i'm happy with them and this evnetually means i came to terms to what, using the jurov two way router ? or what ?
mircea_popescu: i think i had moneys-something in there for a while also, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea, it's a random string. it certainly didn't have some sort of intention, and i was certainly not thinking of you.
mircea_popescu: specifically : "<jurov> after several months of screaming STUPIDITY and listing NAT.ROUTERS and whatnot" << you propose i did what ?
jurov: then we had dicsussion where I was unable to explain why addresses aren't spent, but outputs are, same reult
jurov: i explained why NAT is stupid, like one way telephone that only accepts calls, you laughed at me and told you wouldn't want any other
jurov: eh why do i strive here, like with NAT, inputs vs. addresses and maybe several other things, you will eventually come to terms with what i meant
jurov: am i dense or what's happening here
jurov: i just am asking ahy you give your memory so cheaply?
jurov: i don't argue to keep current algo!
jurov: so, i'll spend 1 btc million times with 0.1 fee, feed it to you and you'll be like "not my problem"?
mircea_popescu: i "saw" 6 films ion the space of an hour last night
mircea_popescu: i did not.
jurov: i have no words
mircea_popescu: the notion that it works any other way is so fucktarfded i couldn't begin to explain it
asciilifeform: how am i to know which one is 'double'
jurov: so i can generate N doublespends with high tx fee and you're happily gonna carryy them in mempool and propagate?
mircea_popescu: jurov> (i actually did the prototype, noone picked it up yet, really gnarly) << yeah i know it's rather miserable.
jurov: it will be done some day in shivascheme, maybe even by me, but I don't seehow to keep good (or predictable) memory usage
jurov: (i actually did the prototype, noone picked it up yet, really gnarly)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo should i do a small piece on argentina or really too far off scope ? << Go for it
mircea_popescu: surprising i guess ~ no one
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, i guess good intel works pretty much like you want your lisp ast thing to work.
CryptoSiD: why do i get voiced
mircea_popescu: PeterL honestly i suspect it's more of a "we're slowly outgrowing this quaint historical convention where it's what's done."
mircea_popescu: or as much as fits in the buffer i'm willing to handle, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: so if i want the raw for something, i can generally get the raw for something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way my intel works is that i don't give a shit about the source data, i read summaries of summaries. but god fucking help you if i go for a endpoint-to-endpoint spot check and the whole conduit isn't there.
asciilifeform: lulzily, i threw one into google and got http://pub.nsfc.gov.cn/pinscn/ch/reader/create_pdf.aspx?file_no=1135253573185568&flag=1&journal_id=pinscn&year_id=2006
mircea_popescu: blergh. i knew i shouldn't have done this.
mircea_popescu: and curse you, now i want to read inept shit about cuprate superconductives.