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assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:31:18; trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 18:53:02; ascii_field: http://i.imgur.com/zTyfHGs.jpg
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: they have these bar stools at work for the high tables. the obese people will sit on them and so the pneumatic pump goes out. so now when a normal person sits on it, it slowly sinks down. everytime it happens I'm like "yup an obese person sat on this"
danielpbarron: to whomever was running a brute force on my wordpress login, yeah I noticed. time to find a new IP
asciilifeform: ok now i really gotta check my terminal
thestringpuller: i guess that's all a miner is really...
assbot: Anand Prakash : [Responsible disclosure] How I could have hacked all Facebook accounts ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRwXJU )
asciilifeform: http://www.anandpraka.sh/2016/03/how-i-could-have-hacked-your-facebook.html << lulz
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:28:24; asciilifeform: l0l looks like i transmitted everything twice
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427870 << i just woke from a nap when reading this, and convinced myself that ~I~ had accidentally skipped up a couple lines and read it again ☝︎
asciilifeform: i got the memo when i was 5 y.o.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm admitting it as a sin, not proposing it as a moral.
mircea_popescu: i am.
asciilifeform: because i've already been there, when woke up today and saw the game.
asciilifeform: i did not say, ~this~ kind of surrender
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i read http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427949 and wondering about footnote x. despite standing to lose some coin, i do not see how the bet ought to be seen as a sham ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and since i mentioned the armenian genocide - the experience of erryday life among this lower class in the very wot-driven turkish empire quite exactly maps what i expect to be the lot of the keyless in the not-so-distant future.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, turks carried on a healthy, 'asiatic' sort of unbureaucratized barbarism for quite some time - witness how well they got on, for how long, without banks, for instance
thestringpuller: well i was more under the assumption philosopher stone of AI (a sorta Star Trek TNG "Data") doesn't currently have a means of existing
mircea_popescu: no, but i daresay i understand at least parts of it.
mircea_popescu: i thought it revolved around understanding.
asciilifeform: i meant, live interest, vs archaeological.
mircea_popescu: hey, i still read it.
mircea_popescu: traditionally, lavoisier, i suppose. but mind that many people understood what you call chemistry long before the 1600s, and similarly an interest in alchemy survived long after.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i would defer that question to PeterL
mircea_popescu: anyway - i welcome the antivirus-based new gestapo. it will doubtlessly work as well as the new us model army, seen at the muchly trumpeted, quickly forgotten tikrit offensive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i will call this - ersatz cognition << the problem being that, much like in the case of blub, ersatz cognition can only be recognized by people not blessed with it.
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> i didn't really design that. was just the default theme for the latest wordpress << Fing and play with toolbox, and by play with I mean delete shit and make it more minimalist. Do leave the screenreader stuff in and if possibru improve it.
asciilifeform: and hm, i think it actually got trilemaized
mircea_popescu: how about the other one! that's what i really am after.
asciilifeform: i can post the fragment if you like.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo this prolly shoujld be qntra << If someone know something at all about Go, I know jack shit.
mircea_popescu: do you happen to remember the piece i'm looking for ?
trinque: this is what I'm aiming to say, that my friend has said he knows very little about *how* the brain forms a picture, only that it will (waves hands) learn to when given input representing one
trinque: I do, yep
trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc ☟︎
nubbins`: this is a terrifyingly accurate representation of meat-based life, i fear
asciilifeform: l0l looks like i transmitted everything twice ☟︎
thestringpuller: because I doubt current humans can make computer better than brain.
asciilifeform: but as far as i'm concerned, it began and ended with eurisko.
asciilifeform: i've been interested in ~actual~ machine cognition for pretty much my whole adult life
asciilifeform: i've been interested in ~actual~ machine cognition for pretty much my whole adult life
thestringpuller: I really don't think you can actually decipher the nature of 'real thought' on current hardware. AI will always be an emulation of the authentic thing.
asciilifeform: i will call this - ersatz cognition
asciilifeform: i.e. attempting to get to the bottom of what thought process ~is~, in a meaningful way
asciilifeform: one, typified by d. lenat's proggy 'eurisko' (see logs, i posted his s333kr1t paperz once) was of the sane sort
thestringpuller: you could have sentient bot talk to you and you'd still slap it around I suppose
thestringpuller: i have a feeling same was said when deep blue beat kasparov...
mircea_popescu: i suppose before i'm dead my life will consist of mostly wasting my time trying to find errant bits of log.
mircea_popescu: well this is sad, i can't fucking find it, half hour later.
danielpbarron: and now that i've got wordpress running, I kinda like how easy it is to draft stuff
danielpbarron: i seriously considered the all txt files option, but figured it wouldn't work well with allowing comments
thestringpuller: i was talking about your original website. the <pre> tags and ascii text and links
danielpbarron: i didn't really design that. was just the default theme for the latest wordpress
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i expected your blog to be all txtfiles lol
thestringpuller: yea. a lot of selling pressure recently. i think node blockchain survived I'll see when it tried to load the index tonight. definitely going to back this thing up daily...
nubbins`: i like how mp pretends to be ignoring me, but still fumbles through an insult directed my way whenever i give another prod
asciilifeform: i have nfi how to beat idiots though, only ever been beaten to death ~by~ idiots.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not discussing solutions, and plox not to mix it in we'll never end.
asciilifeform: there are strictly two 'solutions' i know of, 1) get born as mircea_popescu and stay on dirigible as much as possible 2) go perelman and live in the forest with bears and lynx
mircea_popescu: 1 should be easy to expand upon. you are familiar with the issues of maintaining software in the beleaguered c world, from what i've seen in the logs. such as you know, no more static linking now. gotta support utf now. (most relevant here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-02-2016#1418193 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is what, in any proper sense of the term, "bitcoin" and "crypto" even mean. not fucking pgp as seen by the zimmerman that "oh i don't even have the key anymore"
mircea_popescu: this is a major problem, at least to my eyes. it was just as large, if not nearly as expressible, before the age of bitcoin. by which, to be perfectly specific, i do not mean satoshi crapolade. i mean bitcoinb as in tmsr, and wot and ba and such.
mircea_popescu: or else i'd be rather pissed off today.
mircea_popescu: "I don’t regret accepting this challenge," said Lee. "I am in shock, I admit that, but what's done is done. I enjoyed this game and look forward to the next. I think I failed on the opening layout so if I do a better job on the opening aspect I think I will be able to increase my probability of winning."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was just about to say
mircea_popescu: "I was very surprised," said Lee after the match. "I didn't expect to lose. I didn't think AlphaGo would play the game in such a perfect manner.
danielpbarron: removed them after that paste; it only ever effected pasted, as I rarely type the words it would replace
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427602 << it's an auto-completion i set long ago to replace vulgar words; it's from habbo hotel ☝︎
punkman: I played online tournaments with Apprentice a lot for a while. Now I wonder what kind of security/crypto the thing implemented, if any.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427481 I remember the official client was impossibly clunky and annoying when I used it. Must have been an epic quest to cover all the edge cases in the game's rules. "Apprentice" was kinda cool, just gave you a tabletop and you had to manually make all the moves. ☝︎
fluffypony: I dunno
fluffypony: I generally agree with the "don't be a giant douchenozzle" principle, and as long as employees are operating in any capacity representing one of my companies they don't have permission to be a giant douchenozzle on my behalf (what they do in their own time and of their own volition I don't care about)
mircea_popescu: trinque> rather than dissect it, I wish to stop using the wallet entirely (as I did before with btcd) and just write a sendrawtxn for shiva <<< a raw tx manipulator for trb is prolly a very useful item, really.
trinque: I'm off to bed, gnite!
trinque: I must reimport :p
trinque: then the balance goes to -0.0002 (fee + deed spend) so I smell a floating point fuckup
trinque: yeah, I want the change coming right back to the deed address, so I use sendmany and explicitly state the change
pete_dushenski: i believe so
trinque: I haven't. doesn't that send change back to some other address which is part of the "account" ?
trinque: I also had to lower a constant which didn't seem worth its own vpatch
trinque: it may be limited to the sendmany RPC; that's what I'm using
trinque: when I find time.
trinque: rather than dissect it, I wish to stop using the wallet entirely (as I did before with btcd) and just write a sendrawtxn for shiva
trinque: pete_dushenski: yep, I have seen a negative balance often
trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein_ hey, regrind your vpatch and I'll sign it
trinque: loses track of balance and I have to delete wallet.dat and reimport the key
BingoBoingo: Eh. Maybe I'm just confused. Today was a good day so brain exhausted.
BingoBoingo: I didn't look into it that far.
mircea_popescu: i kinda appreciate the irony of the talk radio derps having chairs but only for display, not to sit in
asciilifeform: i am nearly through
mircea_popescu: if it makes the 5 line i'm gonna stop watching this.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda surprised they didn't brand the table.
mircea_popescu: i thought i had come up with it on my own! turns out it's from logs ?
asciilifeform: i said.
adlai: "it's numbers that i don't really understand. it's just really large numbers"
mircea_popescu: i only see the gesturing. is there a proper feed of this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i could not endure them, cut the audio.
asciilifeform: i will be for anoher few min, falling asleep
mircea_popescu: rpet" and herp derp "i'm running a broken matching engine and find things to 'support' my nonsensical rabidism anywhere i look!!1"