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mircea_popescu: im starting to think actually shared sql may be a very sane and deeply correct way t ogo about things.
mircea_popescu: mike_c this seem like a sane interface to you, what he's proposing ?
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be SUCH a fucking high bar, already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> there is a stupendous amount of work to be done, but unfortunately i personally do not have the free arms and legs to do it, currently << i'd be happy if i saw the damned phuctor already.
mod6: anyone wanna toss me a tarball of the logs?
mod6: lot of good stuff on trilema that takes a deeper dive too. all the way back to '11 and beyond
shinohai: still a plethora of info there
mod6: i feel like a book of them would be good to re-read though
mod6: i haven't missed a single day
shinohai: Thos #b-a logs are so large every day I can't read them all now.
shinohai: Last absinnthe night I had ended with me in a room with 3 girls. I'll say it went dandy.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 04:38 mats: $12 a blowjob is an odd number
deedbot-: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Contravex : Now with expanded archives. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/13/contravex-now-with-expanded-archives/
shinohai: I do, I rather enjoy it. Got a whole set of spoons, glasses, and all.
BingoBoingo had a couple binges
BingoBoingo remind self to not plan a relapse
shinohai: https://s.graphiq.com/sites/default/files/984/media/images/t2/Mythe_Absinthe_Traditional_412042_i0.jpg <<< just got a bottle of this for bday
asciilifeform: phf made a very spiffy logtron
asciilifeform: there is a stupendous amount of work to be done, but unfortunately i personally do not have the free arms and legs to do it, currently
phf: trinque: actual state machine is a bit more elaborate, but atm incomplete. i'm writing it so that bot is entirely driven by the state machine, but right now only connected, ping/pong and disconnect parts are thought through
BingoBoingo: ^ From the not a typo department
phf: then if it gets a pong everything's ok, or it goes into a disconnect
phf: and there's a state machine in a thread http://paste.lisp.org/display/313413
diana_coman: I'm still internally filtering a list of people I think might be most interested
diana_coman: basically there is Open Academy that apparently works to some extent - by that I mean it gets some students to do something useful over a few months with mentors from respective OS projects
diana_coman: I don't mean we should now explain how it is more interesting, more a statement of concrete points
diana_coman: and it kind of got onto me because of all this current academia apparent strive towards "using OS as a way to get students develop wider skills and be more ready for industry" stuff; see open academy etc
mircea_popescu: it seems rather obvious that a bunch of undergrads would prefer to hack on a game over any and all other possible tasks they could get. not sure this point needs further argument, but if it does, prolly the blockhead in question not fit for white collar work anyway.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my not-yet-fully-formed idea was that it offers a. meaning hence interest from students b. active and responsive channel hence support c. wider experience (aka mystical "industry skillz" we need more of) d. (or overall) actually getting them into a wot that yeah, supports learning and not only tech either
asciilifeform: i mean, if i had to explain how the thing is fun & enlightening etc i could not do a proper job, sadly.
asciilifeform realized that the idea ~very much is~ euloratronic, intrinsically, and as such asciilifeform is not the man to properly push it to skeptics face to face, not being a eulorist
mircea_popescu: jurov more or less bolted scheme on the thing from what i hear. some other guy whose programming experience consists of flash reskinned the client in a coupla days.
mircea_popescu: they can make a perl bot to bid in irc auctions ffs. anything they want, they can make.
mircea_popescu: they can make a smaller part ; or a method to do x. for that matter hooks are exposed and more or less documented.
asciilifeform: then it is even more of a puzzler
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform none of that. teacher has to make up a fucking teaching plan, and establish curricula and scoring criteria and whatnot. THIS IS WORK
BingoBoingo: AHA! mircea_popescu has a side effect of supporting the entrenchment of English through Eulora!
mircea_popescu: at the core it is - you get the chance to offload most of your actual work on a private company.
mircea_popescu: seems a serious loss, as the convo is very tense in the original, and i doubt anyone but they involved even has the priors to grok wtf is being said.
mircea_popescu: well on one hand shoving it under door seems a miserable plan to me. if you can't say to some guy "hey, look into this!" prolly best not molest 'em
diana_coman: fwiw I think asciilifeform has a point there
mircea_popescu: you saying it should be a later note ?
trinque: ^ hopefully he'll survive a netsplit now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not mega-seekrit, if i turn on a radio or tv set, 9 in 10 chance i hear precisely this wail.
mircea_popescu: there's this group behaviour, the female wail. go into a group and shoot one in the head. see what happens.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked a bunch of retarded 14 yo females anything ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when i was a kid in middle school, there was this red headed 14 yo that "everyone knew" was A TOTAL WHORE.
mircea_popescu: shitty chain of fast food pretending to be a restaurant
asciilifeform: what's a tgi
mircea_popescu: whore is a lot more selective, similarly, and demanding, similarly.
mircea_popescu: hey, last time euro dropped 1% in a day, you couldn't get out of the fucking "o noes europe is teh end" usg agitprop
mats: use a more impressive number
asciilifeform: i'd take that as a gold standard.
asciilifeform: (not a single old-timer i ever linked to the logz, ever came...)
asciilifeform: perhaps write up idea in a ps0t
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 13:19 mircea_popescu: incidentally : anyone on friendly terms with cs depts at unis / cs profs, plox get in touch, i have a little scheme i could use your halp with. ty!
mircea_popescu: basically i suspect we accidentally collided (via eulora, no less!) with a group of well meaning fellows that are argentinia-level managed and perhaps there's a joining available. we see.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-08 15:36 mircea_popescu: here's how spears work : they have a business end and a handle. the handle - always points toward you. the business end - always points to the enemy.
mircea_popescu: jurov> everything we observe and talk about is then "political" << and so it is. re the public/private distinction made by the republic. it further follows that anything public in a space poisoned by the socialist ideology will be political. you know, from polithea, shitpit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they only find out they don't agree through a before/after violation.
punkman: relevant https://science.slashdot.org/story/11/05/11/1745213/government-funded-atomic-clock-on-a-chip
asciilifeform: such a thing can only exist as a ritual of empire, consider where we got GMT.
asciilifeform: what there ~isn't~ and won't be is a unified planetary clock independent of the inca empire of the day...
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 05:37 mircea_popescu: trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care)
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 04:38 mats: $12 a blowjob is an odd number
trinque: that recently caused me to change the "last updated at" on deedbot.org to use a block number in place of a timestamp.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-08 23:22 decimation: also describing it as 'political time' when the policy is 'matches easily observable astronomical phenomena' seems a bit hyperbolic
mircea_popescu: trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: mats> $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? << market forces. prolly the price of a suficient number of hot pocketz or w/e.
mircea_popescu: trinque> I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing << hey, i've been following your crusade from the foxhole, i dun see that it lost as of yet.
mircea_popescu: literotica recent thing being a lulzy point in case
mircea_popescu: trinque> there are myriad ddos reasons one might not want any user to be able to interrogate the db << technically, all php driven websites are just a thin wrapper over user-driven mysql calls.
ben_vulpes: (a far cry from 'poc or gtfo', i know)
ben_vulpes: i have a pgbomination wired into trb somewhere in my working tree.
deedbot: $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? is not a command.
deedbot: $12 a blowjob is an odd number is not a command.
mats: $12 a blowjob is an odd number ☟︎☟︎
trinque: doing the fundamentally right thing here, I think, involves the act of rating being that you make a deed of a signed statement which is your rating.
trinque: I am entirely willing to do a shitty thing that doesn't kill me while I am waiting for something else.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 03:54 trinque: mike_c: anyhow, until asciilifeform writes me a CLOS persistence layer with ACID, a declarative permissions model, and networking, gpg me the IP you'd be coming from and I'll open that in the firewall then shoot you a psql user/pass
trinque: and ftr, the dream described above *would be a motherfucking database*
trinque: mike_c: anyhow, until asciilifeform writes me a CLOS persistence layer with ACID, a declarative permissions model, and networking, gpg me the IP you'd be coming from and I'll open that in the firewall then shoot you a psql user/pass ☟︎
trinque: further, any system that manages a large pile of persistent data will end up reinventing ACID, relational integrity, so on, in the same manner that any object system may eventually find it is some degree of shitty subset of CLOS
trinque: I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing.
mircea_popescu: i still suspect there's a good reason this doesn't work tho.
trinque: but makes a hell of a lot of sense
mircea_popescu: basically once bdb is killed in bitcoin we can just have a standared tmsr db and just do this ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, make him a user, give it select priviledges, done.
trinque: mike_c: you want a postgresql connection?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/dragons-tale-a-bitcoin-linux-mmorpg/ << checkj out what i dug up
mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: a ? never seen any pix
mircea_popescu: btw trinque what was the thing with btcalpha interconnect ? got a rss or something for mike_c ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: ok i made you a thing
mircea_popescu: it's not a good athlete.
asciilifeform: the man was a boxer!
mircea_popescu: not really. young boys have a terrible time. nigh on impossible for old women.
mod6: well, there's always "phreeee". but... just sayin, you don't need to spend $1k. $100 is a long way from $1000
mod6: anyway, my point was, if you wanna fuck, no need to drop a stack.
asciilifeform: i dun get this, a healthy bloke reloads in 10, 20 (if he shoveled dirt all day) min.