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gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
gribble: Error: "caulk" is not a valid command.
mod6: i need to make one for a d16
mod6: ok you that decision table for a d6 here: http://pit-claudel.fr/clement/blog/generating-uniformly-random-data-from-skewed-input-biased-coins-loaded-dice-skew-correction-and-the-von-neumann-extractor/
mod6: oooh, i get this decision table now. if r1=4, r2=6, r3=3, then i yield a final value of 2.
shinohai: After Birthday celebrations tomorrow I shall drink no more for a while.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: (message to proberz : probe that is visible to the motherfucking naked eye , regardless of how otherwise original, is an insult to the intelligence of a shoe) << qntra was hit hard with a comment spam cannon. Will take time to clean up approval que.
davout: a mormon?
trinque: I learned recently that the "inventor" of ruby is a japanese mormon
mod6: i'll just write one up tonight. i just tried to cheat a bit by using this one.
trinque: that's a demerit
trinque: sequences being a global list
mod6: thought the program might help a bit.
mircea_popescu: mod6 if you actually care enough, iirc the site had a decent manual/tutorial
mircea_popescu: sounds like a scoping issue
mod6: i was just pointing back to last weeks conversation about the nature of a coin. a float, 'tis not. :]
mircea_popescu: davout as a liability to bitbet / owed to me you mean ?
davout: anything bet seeding that came after the january report should be accounted as a liability to you
davout: if a bet was seeded in december it's already paid for by shareholders, if a bet's been seeded mid february you have been floating it
davout: in other words, yes, you have been floating this expense, but only until it was settled in a monthly report by deducting it from the profits you distributed to shareholders
davout: so basically my point is that while i'm ok to add a bitbet liability to you for every bet that was seeded after the january report, every house bet that came before that was already paid for by the shareholders
davout: working on this 'add a house bets item on the liabilities side'
felipelalli: this is a known old bug of wotpaste
gribble: Error: "deed" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: los inmensos gastos originados porque a cuatro ambiciosos se les antoja por vía de la especulación, hacer una revolución y quedar impunes. ¡Libertad! ¡Libertad!...Maldita sea la libertad, ni será el hijo de mi madre el que vaya a gozar de los beneficios que ella proporciona, hasta que no vea establecido un gobierno que los demagogos llamen tirano y me proteja contra los bienes que me brinda la actual libertad."
mircea_popescu: tará los resultados. ¡Libertad! Para que un hombre de honor se vea atacado por una prensa silenciosa, sin que haya leyes que lo protejan y si existen se hagan ilusorias. ¡Libertad! Para que si me dedico a cualquier género de la industria, venga una revolución que me destruya el trabajo de muchos años y la esperanza de dejar un par de bocados a mis hijos. ¡Libertad! Para que se me cargue de contribuciones a fin de pagar
mircea_popescu: "Ya es tiempo de dejarnos de teorías, que 24 años de experiencia no han producido más que calamidades. Los hombres no viven de ilusiones, sino de hechos: ¿qué me importa que se me repita hasta la saciedad que vivo en un país de libertad si por el contrario se me oprime?... ¡Libertad! désela usted a un niño de tres años para que se entretenga por vía de diversión con un estuche de navajas de afeitar, y usted me con
asciilifeform: but i did wonder what felipelalli was trying to accomplish by deedbotting a transaction with a fella having no mathematical identity.
felipelalli: this contract is fine to him (my counterpart "Rhama Bonitao"). I do not run any risk because I get him service first. So, the worst scenario is if I do not pay him, and he has a concrete proof that I promised to pay him. It works, I did it many times before.
asciilifeform: only to the extent i see a problem with a bloke nailing his balls to a wall with a ball peen hammer.
mircea_popescu: and you see a problem with this ?
asciilifeform: picture 'i, 17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7, hereby proclaim that i owe a quintillion zimbabwellars to the man in the grey coat!'
asciilifeform: this is less of a cricitism of ' felipelalli wastes hdd space !111' but more of 'does he grasp that RHAMA BONITAO is not an entity on our planet '.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a question that needs an answer. if it works for him it works!
asciilifeform: 'RHAMA BONITAO' doesn't look like a pgp pubkey to me...
asciilifeform: infelizmente está fora da civilidade, no máximo 48h após a entrega da
asciilifeform: 'Declaro que devo transferir o equivalente a R$ 300,00 (segundo índice BRXBT do momento do envio) para o endereço 1BVkspu64adYhRP3cBvvxXbjyWFfyKyVGG que pertence ao RHAMA BONITAO, que
mircea_popescu: ah ah. felipelalli will have to wait a little - trinque was updating the two bots to merge into one.
asciilifeform: it is interesting how auto figures in 'rich' fantasy of a ustard
asciilifeform: 'BENEFITS GIVEN TO NEW MEMBERS WHO JOIN ILLUMINATI. 1. A Cash Reward of USD $500,000 USD 2. A New Sleek Dream CAR...' << i find the ustard leper's bell ringing here
mircea_popescu: phf has a very solid fear of failure does he.
asciilifeform: what is ~not~ trivial is to not build a house of cards that falls over when you try to do something useful.
asciilifeform: it is also trivial to craft a scheme interp for same
asciilifeform: it is ~trivial~ to craft a toy os for x86.
asciilifeform: 'I ported a USB driver, a network driver, an SD card reader and a low-level driver for the Pi's VideoCore IV GPU. '
asciilifeform: 'I developed a version of Interim (then called "Bomberjacket OS") that boots on a standard Intel x86 PC as well as a version that runs on the ARM-based Raspberry Pi low-cost computer. '
asciilifeform: 'Fast and simple Microcontrollers like Teensy 3.1 (based on Freescale ARM Cortex-M4 MPU) can be used as a "poor man's GPU" to generate VGA text or graphics output. '
sbp: must dash for a bit—in case I lack the +v upon my return, it has been a pleasure. thanks for the chat
sbp: the only surviving copy of the biography that numbers her works has a hole in it
sbp: potentially. but Emily Dickinson locked her poems into a drawer, and they only got out again by chance
asciilifeform: sbp: where do you intend to get a usable fpga ?
asciilifeform: (ussr made perfectly serviceable pdp clones without understanding a whit of how the thing worked)
sbp: yeah, even if you took a batch and decapped all of them but one, I suppose you wouldn't know for sure that that wasn't the exploited one. I don't know if it's possible to make a chip that you can audit before it's running
asciilifeform: realize that copying a chip mask is a vanishing fraction of the cost of baking an ic
asciilifeform: if it means that, given a $B another fella can attempt to replicate, this does not mean much.
sbp: so a pure lisp chip like SCHEME-79 would still be cool
asciilifeform: (which is really a hardware embodiment of an interpreter, if built correctly)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fexprs incur no penalty or otherwise problem in an interpreted lang, or, for that matter, a proper lispm
asciilifeform: see (surprisingly, not a bad summary) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fexpr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a 'fexpr' is essentially a first-class macro.
mircea_popescu: so you have a fundamental objection to syntactical convention and a syntactic convenience objection to a fundamental solution.
mircea_popescu: sbp you got a prototype of this fexpr compiler thing somewhere ?
sbp: I saw something recently where they gave people a belt, and it buzzed in whichever direction was north, to give them haptic feedback as to cardinal directions. they seemed moderately annoyed to indifferent about the belt when wearing it, I recall
sbp: they did an experiment once where they took a member of the tribe and flipped him around really fast
sbp: if I were a member of the Guugu Yimithirr I could perform such cardinal sins more easily
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (it was old norman, a marginal dialect of french, disused in france due to paris ascendancy, that survived as a very intricate technical language via oxford law uni.)
mircea_popescu: sbp the cardinal sin of writing is to not know why you chose a style.
sbp: I don't know why I wrote it in the style of a Klondike gold prospector era huckster salesman
asciilifeform: all i saw was a buncha-'vexual'-style salad and a link to a very trivial proggy that de-enumerates the bits.
sbp: oh, the spoilers refer to having solved the challenge set in the post. spoilers in the sense of spoiling the end of a movie
sbp: I know he just meant alert reader generally, but he did a previous post where one of our chatlogs was titled "the alert reader", and so I decided to take up the challenge anyway because I was curious as to what the encodings were—I wanted to understand how the seals were intended to be used
mircea_popescu: a sort of ellaborate peekabo.
sbp: asciilifeform issued a little trivial challenge in the post, directed to the "alert reader", to decode the seal examples that he gives from his single byte encodings into human readable form
mircea_popescu: sbp bot seems to be in a smashed state. maybe can'\t get outbound connections, we'll see in a bit.
sbp: will give it a go
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you give him a bunch of links or is he this lively by nature ?
sbp: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/deedbot#register-a-public-key
mircea_popescu: sbp infrastructure just got re-built a coupla weeks ago, ironing out bugs still.
phf: i would like to point out, that the log has been operational for whole two weeks, it's not quite up to standard of the incrementally constructed, 3 year tested, former b-a
phf: there's normally a max half hour with no restarts delay between
phf: asciilifeform: it's a fail
mircea_popescu: sbp if you do you'll be able to maintain a presence here / participate in wot etc.
mircea_popescu: sbp you got a pgp key ?
sbp: yeah, well the answer to that is in itself trivial. a child could have come up with it
sbp: I also fixed macros, created a previous unheard of macro system which is hygienic without being asinine like all current macro hygiene systems
sbp: this was all made a lot easier by using de Bruijn notation internally for variables by the way
sbp: I'm not sure I care awfully about the runtime constraint. ("two speeds" of a computer and all that)
sbp: what I realised was that when you couple scope to s-expressions in this way, it essentially becomes a system of runtime assertions in which you can model not only lexical AND dynamic scope—by choice!—but other kinds of hitherto unexplored scopes too
sbp: a bit like how the SCHEME-79 chip worked. that executed the cons cells directly, as you put it
sbp: there isn't much about it on the web now. I think I found a single PDF describing it in detail!
sbp: also, I don't know if you remember, but the Interlisp-D machine had a program called SEdit
sbp: have you heard of Reverse Polish Lisp? it was a language for the HP-48 I think from 1987. the idea was that it was meant to combine some of the features of lisp, the high level stuff (as high level as they could squeeze into a late 1980s calculator) and the low level Mooreishness of Forth
sbp: only that, and to enquire about Phuctor. I have not contacted you again for precisely that reason: I abhor tedum too. I did get a copy of Kogge, and I did review it, and I did create various systems based on that. but none were to my liking so far
phf: so either cmucl or i have finally gone mad. (setq *connection* (irc-connect)) few lines later (error "~a" *connection*). error comes back as "NIL"
sbp: I apologise for not having a PGP presence, the baseline of citizenship
sbp: Nelson mentions that computer is a misnomer, and quoted Von Neumann as calling them all-purpose machines. I tracked that down potentially to https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rdm34/burks.pdf
asciilifeform: now perhaps i drank too much mircea_popescutroinium with breakfast today, but now i wonder how often the point of such a port scan is ~the scan per se~ rather than actual logical result thereof.
trinque: we've got the A team on us, eh?
asciilifeform: mine was a hetzner.
asciilifeform: (message to proberz : probe that is visible to the motherfucking naked eye , regardless of how otherwise original, is an insult to the intelligence of a shoe)