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mircea_popescu: everything you ever saw said or thought or felt about rap as a subcultural phenomenon, some romanian somewhere thought, said or felt, as if they were his fucking own words, feelings and thoughts! and the groups respectively map, also! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (oh, yeah, and in a pile of mutatis mutandis lulz, gypsy 'music' [manele] almost exactly replicated the itinerary of black 'music' [rap] except compressed over a decade instead of three. amusingly enough - the participants were extremely fucking EARNEST! in complete and unabashed unawarness of the systemic nature of their deeply personal, thoroughly felt, aesthetico-political choices
mircea_popescu: romania has and throughout history had the about same exact ethnogroup. gypsyes rather than black, but otherwise exactly identical : loud, gregarious, female-centered, easily dominated by a coupla decisive men etc.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo should be interesting once the gods of coincidence arrange for a mob of welfare derps to assault the house of some gonzo or other, resulting in machine gun fire from multiple positions and a few dozen dead innocent bystanders.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yes you can ddos "a channel itself" in the sense that if it runs on its own infrastructure you just ddos the nodes, ie individual instances running ircd or equivalent.
mircea_popescu: * danielpbarron pours a whiskey << ron cubano original ftw!
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: eh, yeah, i doubt it. not saying that you're wrong; just that, you can't dos a channel itself. only its individuals if you know its inhabitants. << I'm not trying to imply anything other than timing of my connection's enshittening seems suspish
mod6: i mean, i think we're pretty special and all, ( ;D ) but i doubt theres a bunch of people who care enough to try to slag down the whole fleanode because of drama.
trinque: yup, 'tis a shitpile
mod6: like that dos thing that used to sit in #b-a and collect ips
mod6: BingoBoingo: eh, yeah, i doubt it. not saying that you're wrong; just that, you can't dos a channel itself. only its individuals if you know its inhabitants.
mod6: shinohai drinks a glass to tmsr [~]D << here's to your birthday pal
mod6: I propose that we do not move (too hard to get a full net of slave nodes going + ddos mitigation, which, you know we'll need desperately) until we break off with gossip
BingoBoingo: mod6: Before the divorce I'd keep connected for weeks at a time. Basically until I did something that closed connection.
mod6: And I do nothing special really. Have a node for irc, using irssi.
davout: if turkey ends up in receivership, give me a ring
BingoBoingo: Suppose he manages to get papers served and even finds a court that takes jurisdiction. How does he go about taking all of my glorious nothing?
BingoBoingo: This is not a trivial thing for him to pursue.
BingoBoingo considering to move for a motion of shennanigans on Freenode.
BingoBoingo: Ok, I'm starting to get tired of this fucking Freenode weather that's picked up substantially since the channel split. Before I could spend weeks with continuous uninterupted connection. Now, I'm lucky to stay connected a whole day. No other aspect of my connectivity has fucking changed.
shinohai wonders if Qntra would get sued if I wrote a satire piece about Erdogan.
shinohai: Ah okay I was gonna give it a go for shits and giggles.
danielpbarron: I can sorta-run a gentoo on a pogo by chrooting from another linux
shinohai: btw danielpbarron didn't you have some info stashed away somewhere on building a gentoo on pogo instead of arch?
danielpbarron pours a whiskey
shinohai drinks a glass to tmsr [~]D
mod6: Anyway, seems like there'll be a lot of things to keep you busy in the near future if you want to work on stuff. So, there's that anyway.
mod6: You're now experiencing a lull.
mod6: Mine still runs and everything is good. Just been in a "lull."
shinohai: And I miss poking btc with a stick.
mod6: No worries, it's probably worth a read. Kinda getting things back on track.
mod6: Will be putting immediate effort into a list of discussed problem areas; for both ideal bitcoin, and existant bitcoin.
mod6: Eleventeen is out of the range of acceptable values, but a decent guess nevertheless. :]
mod6: Anyone else want to make a guess or make a case for a different value?
mod6: here's a question. with regard to this (http://pit-claudel.fr/clement/blog/generating-uniformly-random-data-from-skewed-input-biased-coins-loaded-dice-skew-correction-and-the-von-neumann-extractor/), with three d6 rolls of [453] what would be the result?
mircea_popescu: phf a) can has 100 rather than 20 finds for search ? b) http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=moon&page=16 is last page notwithstanding that 16 * 20 !> 500 ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but it is NOT a substitute for modern electric rng << hey, i guess to an extent, i totally agree. except, we don't have a modern electirc rng.
mod6: <+PeterL> I took out some of the "sneaky" pythonisms, might be a bit clearer now? << looks that way, I'm gonna play with this a bit tonight. But I did quickly try it out. Thanks again.
adlai: in other news, i'm seriously considering arranging for a bitcoin miner so i can work on p2pool while in the farm
asciilifeform: but it is NOT a substitute for modern electric rng
PeterL: and I fixed a couple bugs, like the mismatched variable name and some missing float casts in the test, and I added a rudimentary prompt if you run the script from a shell
PeterL: I took out some of the "sneaky" pythonisms, might be a bit clearer now?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alaskan+pipeline | alaskan pipeline. n: the act of pooping in to a condom, freezing the rubber overnight, then inserting it in to ones anus. Invented at the University of Iowa by Brian ...
mircea_popescu: sounds like a zappa 10 minute song. "Come on baby come get some of that icky love
mircea_popescu: and wait, i wished a specific title ? i r old and forget.
adlai would rather come from a vat that into a tube!
mircea_popescu: he comes from a fucking vat. method acting ftr!
mircea_popescu: anyway, that hammond thing is a nec plus ultram (< davout ) in derpage. EVEN AT THE TIME HIS LIFE WAS ON THE LINE, the shmuck did yet still not know his phone is not on quiet. this person has no children in the house, never had a girfriend he was two timing, grew up without parents, etc.
adlai: ah well, i'll have to search for a better movie to recommend next
mircea_popescu: what if someone has a knife ? there goes my throat ?
mircea_popescu: i'd be shitting my pants if i had to do crowd control in unknown crowd with a fucking assault rifle omfg.
mircea_popescu: no stained panties ? nobody had a little girly accident ? nothing ? just, military level americans ? where the fuck.
mircea_popescu: and while we're on it, where the everloving fuck did they find those incredibly pliable, ready and trained set of people of walmart ? i bet you that on a million dollar budget you can't get together actual streetwalkers in new york that strip when they hear "i'ma need you to strip".
mircea_popescu: you know there's advertisements all over buenos aires for "classes de smartphone". they depict on cheap paper a lock and an ancient brick phone halfmerged.
mircea_popescu: no but seriously... peter hammond derp leaves phone behind to be a hero, has not sufficient familiarity with how the phones work to put it in quiet mode ?
davout: one of the cool things about this chan is that i get to learn a bit of latin every day!
mircea_popescu: there is this theory that his brain at some point worked, years ago. i subscribe to it. sadly he has been silent for years ; his newfound interest in things and verbal flurries on topics may be interesting, but principally to whatever paid medical professional. i'm neither paid nor a doctor, and in any case i am of the firm conviction that he is non compos mentis, and unable to evaluate any statement.
mircea_popescu: it's really a very mild, slightly drier arizona
mod6: now that is a solid idea
mircea_popescu: mod6 but if you ever wanna retire, could prolly buy a thousand acres in cordoba and get a nice ranch going. possibly for less than what retirement costs in the us.
BingoBoingo would not be surprised if there were some soy farmers out there who had not intentionally touched a bean.
mod6: mircea_popescu: so they've got a lot of cattle in .ar then?
mod6: I think it would encrypt a string. Then decrypt it, but it wouldn't/couldn't take any different input. haha.
mod6: Next friday checkpoint at the latest. Even if it's just a quick update.
mod6: I think this is a good stopping point for today probably. Plenty of food for thought. Getting the list together is a small enough chunk to get us started.
BingoBoingo: in case of fire, and during the last drill (my building is only four stories for fucks sake) an obese coworker was out of breath and had to stop half-way with a huge line of people behind her - if this was a real emergency, I'm sorry, but I'm gunna gunt punt that woman to ensure everyone can make it out alive." https://archive.is/7ObHD
BingoBoingo: Iterlude from the mines: "During the 9/11 attacks, more people died than should have because the obese people in the buildings could not move down 20 flights of stairs as fast as needed. FACT. Obese people moving slow (as fast as they can) in a burning building stairwell absolutely can cause people to not make it out alive. This is the most triggering one for me. I'm one of those people who volunteered in my office to help people escape
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i guess one good move, and very foundation-like, would be to make lists of what we want, both for cB [cleanning Bitcoin] and iB [ideal Bitcoin] << ok so this is a start.
mircea_popescu: anyway, making a list of all the things seems paramount
asciilifeform: then i went off into my pit to produce a cstron.
mircea_popescu: i don't know there's a better alternative than cs.
asciilifeform: would help also to nail down the exact cryptomechanics of a viable 'iB'
mircea_popescu: and as the idiots keep investing themselves, no matter how ineptly, they'll eventually build a shitpile large enough, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: if we are in a position to say "we don't want a fork - but if you do, THIS fork will prevaly, no matter what you do, because it actually is the tech schelling point" then that's the end of that.
mod6: So, we build a new battleship, and keep it in port. This will make 'em bleed through the purse.
asciilifeform: i keep a number of'em around
mircea_popescu: it's a basic approach to leveraging local superiority into actual total value.
mod6: "In naval warfare, a "fleet in being" is a naval force that extends a controlling influence without ever leaving port."
mircea_popescu: ok, it's a concept from maritime strategy, that meanwhile took over mainstream. the idea is that if you have one big battleship, and the enemy has three, you are ill advised to go into battle. because if you sink two, and they sink yours
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: considering that ada uses no peculiar ('functional') abstractions, and is pretty much a c with 'bdsm'-restrictive pointer mechanics and hard bounds checking - the nock thing is not in the mix
mircea_popescu: the haskellweight of a project, how likely it is to suck brains and ideas into a black hole of nock.
asciilifeform: it builds to a traditional binary, like any other gcc.
asciilifeform: there isn't, note, a haskellian runtime in the thing
mircea_popescu: so yeah, ada is certainly a good thing in that pot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for a very narrow 'worx'
asciilifeform: i've been playing with a bare-metal (x86) ada build chain.
mircea_popescu: for need of a name.
mircea_popescu: there's also - a good db. and other things. a list should prolly be made.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the iB : there's a number of very valuable ideas, at least in my eyes, that discussion throughout has brought out. yes the sha thing discussed on trilema ; also - ada, linked into the c, and slowly driving out the c, much in the way the vermin try to drive out say x11 or rsa etc.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason why the sort of guy that can't pass the simplest test of manhood, that pons asinorum known as the prisoner's dilemma is known as a rat.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, a good iB in back pocket as you say plays the strategic role of "fleet in being", in that it protects the old shit from too violent a crisis.
mircea_popescu: the other's very practical : every halving is a difficult time for bitcoin. it's a more or less homeostatic structure, which means that with some periodicity will go into crisis. you don't know what crisis will rupture a vessel and give it an aneurism, but it is indubitable that the quality of alternative on offer is the best measure of its lfie expectancy.
mircea_popescu: well, there's two classes of arguments pro iB that i can readily see. one's very fundamental : the code is shit, the "grandfather pistols" thing will only go so far, it is by its nature finite in utility. eventually the trhing will have to be redone well. it is, after all, a misuded prototype.
mod6: as Ada. We've all kicked it around a bunch about the lang, and I'm not sure we're all sold on Ada. But seems like a step in the correct direction overall.
mod6: so i guess there are short term and long term initiatives: Short term (for this summer, 12 weeks from now) it might suit us well to have a SHA3 bitcoin in our back pocket. And with some mapped/planned out work there, would still be a long shot, but possible, I suppose. Long term (1+ year or more?), concurrently there could be work towards an actual hardfork with an ideal bitcoin written in something, such
mod6: But starting might just be half the battle. We'd have to go through a process of perhaps identifiying first, where to swap out SHA2-256 for SHA3-512. (whatever needs to be included, what structures and fields need to be lengthened, etc)
mircea_popescu: mod6 well one major question to be decided is : obviously there's the project of cleaning up extant bitcoin code ; by the discussion re july of forks, there's also the proposal to start a separate project to make an "ideal bitcoin". this proposal wasn't ever seriously discussed and i dunno that it ever was actually accepted as such.
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gribble: Error: "cawk" is not a valid command.