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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the dates seem off or something's amiss. i see you feb 3rd 2013
mircea_popescu: i have jun 2011 - apr 2012 otc logs also, but by now really scraping the bottom.
mircea_popescu: but the machine has no mother to shit on it ; AND NO GOOD INSTINCTS. or any instincts at all.
mircea_popescu: yes, when i teach a 15 yo to fuck, she ~has good instincts~ about what's slutty and what's not ; and works to clear the shit her mother shat on her so the slut within can shine
mircea_popescu: "it has good instincts as to what's funny and what's not". really ?
mircea_popescu: see, the man looked in the jaguar's eyes, and SAW a soul there. little bit of circularity.
mircea_popescu: and wtf "today we are building machine intelligence" idiocy is this.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you mean you iterate through all the seals ? :D
mircea_popescu: now we know what it means when phf tells a girl he'll be 10-15 minutes.
mircea_popescu: s V implementation, it is in no way obvious that the time cost of his learning the language combined with the risk that he misses details in the audit is a better resource expenditure than simply implementing the tool again in his language of choice."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this incidentally is a very cogent point you bring, "Multiple implementations of an ambiguous specification provide far more value than the "many eyes" mantra of open source advocates. An implementation in Python might burn the eyes of a Perl hacker, and the Perl be entirely inscrutable to a man who's never touched it before, and even were such a man to sit down and learn Python for the purpose of auditing another'
mircea_popescu: mod6 i read through
http://www.mod6.net/v-99994-trace.txt and indeed it seems right and proper vtronics. one q though : was there any patch not signed by asciilifeform interspersed in the flow ? because that's the only not tested case i think, if you have say a->b->c->d where a, c and d are signed by x. does it stop at a ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: pity we didn't have the bot archival thing earlier huh.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : if you google bitcoin authors you get : Andreas Antonopoulos, Gavin Andresen, Adam Back, Brian Behlendorf, Wences Casares, Hal Finney, Satoshi Nakamoto, Charlie Shrem.
mircea_popescu reads recipes for coffee liqueur on web. INSTANT COFFEE! they... USE WATER! holy shit...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes which of the trb genesis seals are seal and which reseal ?
mircea_popescu: reseal = the act of signing a patch with your own key.
mircea_popescu: (which is what all ~ALL~ standardization EVER does - makes it so you're really careful not to typo. it can't resolve problems of the other nature, just this.)
mircea_popescu: but ~making that list~ is entirely unmachineable ; and me being very careful not to typo doesn't help
mircea_popescu: if you have a collection of keys you're - for whatever reason, maybe they're all me, maybe they're my harem, maybe they're all the people from russia, whatever - interested in, yes you can build the set of all pathes they signed.
mircea_popescu: automated vtronics is like having cat "read" balzac for you.
mircea_popescu: and there's no "up to good" or "no good" directionality of intent involved here. he is up to nonsense, because meaning and universality are mutually exclusive.
mircea_popescu: yes, once you populate a db with the keyids of "known mp's subservient keys" you can
mircea_popescu: universality and hardness are orthogonal, how hard a diamond is as a standard of realistic hardness has entirely nothing to do with how many cunts wear one around their whatever appendage.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i have a perfectly serviceable way to harden keys for the record. it's just not ~standardized~, and it's unclear it should be.
mircea_popescu: nobody forces you to even consider patches signed by people out of your wot.
mircea_popescu: there;s no intention involved in or supported by vtronics
mircea_popescu: if patches are signed by dead people only, they don't belong in presses
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying - there's nothing lost here. can emulate naked pastebin in v style np.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, in principle. in practice i expect "centralizing" rebasing vpatches to happen all the time to prune trees of their noncontroversial joints.
mircea_popescu: if it's any good, you can always sign it later as phf.
mircea_popescu: you can literally come up with an idea for a thing while travelling ; go to internet cafe ; spin up gpg to make you a new key while you bash it down ; then sign the patch with that key which you don't even bother taking from there.
mircea_popescu: can release patch today under your text sig ; rebase it later with your main sig.