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BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455861 << The devthedev kid who wrote a bit for early qntra is still under 18! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455829 << One aunt and uncle locked thier house for the first time in a decade this weekend. ☝︎
copumpkin: nah, back in my day the iPad was just a glimmer in Steve's eye
trinque: was this the one BingoBoingo said was a furry?
mircea_popescu: everyone may know it, but no one has come up with an answer worth two shits, which is how memory hole became required bug-that's-a-feature in modern man mental programming.
mircea_popescu: Pirate: How dare you molest the whole world? Because I do it with a small boat, I am called a pirate and a thief. You, with a great navy, molest the world and are called an emperor."
phf: "femke, my fellow biking aficionado, i built a motorized bike but the kicker, nobody can tell you're using one. say, you want to borrow it for a few weeks? say put it in your fleet of racing bikes?"
asciilifeform: it is of very little use to a ben_vulpes commuting to his sweatshop on bike etc.
asciilifeform: phf: note that you cannot buy ~these~ motor bikes in a store.
mircea_popescu: what else are they goinna say, "my daughter is ten bucks a lay, free blowjobs on sunday, call now" ?
asciilifeform: ' Van den Driessche and her father deny any intent to cheat and say that the situation was a mix-up: A friend’s bike outfitted with a motor was mistakenly brought to the pits. ' << l0lz
mircea_popescu: of course, there a motor is EXPECTED
asciilifeform: one would imagine, naively, that they would draw lots and pick one from a set, like dueling pistols
asciilifeform: which, incidentally, is a great tool for 1,001 jobs
mircea_popescu: a
asciilifeform: they are made in switzerland. i had just such a motor in the 'tecan' robot.
asciilifeform: it is, i think, a 'maxon'
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, the bicycle cheat thing apparently has been a crackpot hypothesis for ~years, 'mechanical doping', and it has come out ~how~ it was done
asciilifeform: yeah but this is a new wtf low.
mircea_popescu: yeah i ditched them a while back
asciilifeform: but apparently namecheap is a cesspool
asciilifeform: and i put in, believe it, a a-record update
mircea_popescu: actually it turns out primenet.com is actually a spammer service.
mircea_popescu: Public Exponent 281479271743489 is NOT PRIME ! Modulus has mirrored low-order 32 bits ! << a nice!
asciilifeform: pull out a napkin, do this, you will enjoy.
asciilifeform: you don't get a unique inverse !
asciilifeform: (it IS possible to operate with a key having nonprime e, but NOT if it isn't comprime with modulus!111)
asciilifeform: all at once, as tree, rather than 1 at a time.
asciilifeform: it is to be a massive batch factor thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: imagine - as a plot for a very cool sfish thing - that real-world 1984 SU actually had bitcoin invented by one of the guys there, and the cause of the collapse was the fight between the intellectuals and the bolsheviks
mircea_popescu: no, you get a new world govt in two years.
asciilifeform: if a miner exists in 3 universities ?
asciilifeform: how much is it 'bitcoin' if you only have a dozen relays ?
asciilifeform: arguably if richie and pike hadn't been able to find a junkyard pdp, we would also be better off.
mircea_popescu: if nakamoto never had a computer at home, we'd be better off.
mircea_popescu: it's writen by a windows imbecile that nigh on put lamp in there!
asciilifeform: and for some reason mircea_popescu is reluctant to confront the fact that even he can only remotely afford fab time because it is subsidized by the drool of a billion 'konsooomerz'
asciilifeform: aha but then you had to steal a million.
mircea_popescu: at the absolute very least you should be able to get a university in fucking brazil with a key ffs.
asciilifeform: unless you are mircea_popescu and can take over a whole fab.
mircea_popescu: this argument is rapidly collapsing into a "these damned dentists moved from using fireplace tools to actual dentist's chairs, and i won't have one at home and i won't ever be able to have teeth or chew now"
asciilifeform: so i would like to see mircea_popescu actually sneak something into a mil+ items production line
mircea_popescu: yes, some metal in between silicone layers cut a certtain way
asciilifeform: do you know what is a mask rom ?
mircea_popescu: ITS JUST A KEY.
mircea_popescu: as it is today, chinese plants run two shifts a day to make iphones for apple and one shift to make bootlegs for themselves.
trinque: so then, perhaps *I* own a computer and he may use it via gossipd if he doesn't piss me off
mircea_popescu: so you find a discarded mp-signed bios and turn it on and it prompts you to make a key and heck... wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: why not ? maybe your mother's a slut and knows me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about this for a second. so ms makes its windows key ; and i make my short run mp key. why not ?
mircea_popescu: trinque but that wouldn't be a "general purpose" item would it ?
mircea_popescu: there's a huge difference at work between situation 1. "i'll explain what he did AND I KNOW he'll apologize" and 2. "i won't even explain because i know he won't even understand".
mircea_popescu: trinque the idea more or less is that once you get rid of the power rangers, maintenance becomes 10k easier a task.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only gas mask i use is a condom.
asciilifeform: but he has a good gas mask.
mircea_popescu: heck, alf's cosmonautics day is a fine point in case.
mircea_popescu: he is a citizen not a refugee.
asciilifeform: it takes a great deal of time to cure such a man
mircea_popescu: and make no mistake : he is intelligent, and actually a good programmer.
mircea_popescu: for local flavour : the man runs lamp locally like a sort of super-excel.
asciilifeform: because wtf, it is a basic thing, everyone ELSE on planet, knew it!
asciilifeform: actually most of my sweat on getting phuctor into a reliable state was re sql
asciilifeform: on that benighted planet, where winblowz rules, getting ANYTHING done is such a titanic effort that, yes,
mircea_popescu: and in the end ? alikim "the trouble" or rather a sad fact is that instead of maintaining one resource everyone maintains their own
mircea_popescu: yes, him. so guy comes in, he's well spoken and clearly competent, has a lot of experience wit hgaming. strictly in windows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of microshit and all that : the experience of this alikim fellow in #eulora constituted a shattering moment for me. so, let me summarize :
asciilifeform: common man took a hike long ago when he went with microshit.
mircea_popescu: in some manner or other, "common man" that "just wanted to" will crash against the wall of "wot or take a hike"
asciilifeform: i see programmable comp as a cornerstone of thinking man, same as clean sheets of paper and pen
mircea_popescu: there is a definition of train, quite mathematical : if the driving power is transmitted via tyre, you have a car. if transmitted via rigid assemblage - track. if transmitted via rigid assemblage working against a rail - train.
mircea_popescu: there is no way, nor could there be a way, for you to put these two in a syllogism.
mircea_popescu: closed is always strictly meaningful in a context
asciilifeform: (what's a train? how many people it has to carry? what of tanker cars? etc)
mircea_popescu: they are not even the same kind. open is a measure of an undefined property.
asciilifeform: and no there will not be a mathematical definition. any more than there is of, e.g., 'train'.
mircea_popescu: so much so the more astute artists actually use it as a characterisation device.
asciilifeform: a self-written proggy is an 'unknown unknown'
mircea_popescu: phf your measure of "open" is always going to be flawed, in the sense that it's a version of "general fights last war".
phf: i think my lament is that the possibility space is closing, the kind of substrate that allows for a global optimization problem like "pirated movies" to resolve is being gradually eliminated in a counter optimization. i'm warning a potential collapse, mp's arguing that the space is always open
mircea_popescu: the argument is here that a) that joke passed for serious back then ; b) there can not be such a thing as "serious" in this application.
asciilifeform: and copy protection is a red herring anyway
mircea_popescu: how is this a cogent argument here ?
mircea_popescu: and it makes a very narrowly covering product.
mircea_popescu: but that is still a private company, more or less.
phf: but i'm not attributing any agency to the republic, i'm observing and commenting on a tendency
asciilifeform: (a new break is discovered 1-2/year and is worth $sixfigs)
mircea_popescu: nor do they have the optionalities you imagine for them, it's not a case of "republic, on imperial steroidal vitamins".
mircea_popescu: people in the empire are dumb enough to buy, TO BUY, for MONEY, "copy protection" that i can take out with a magic marker. you grok this ?
phf: mircea_popescu: it's the strategic superiority article's position is what i'm saying. you can rig up ipad to do crypto for you, as long as you shield it in a bunker, install some toy language environment on it and spend some time writing rsa algo in that
asciilifeform: until microshit says 'pay 500k usd for a signing key or go fuck yerself'
mircea_popescu: eulora is a particularly miserable example, in general games by shrewd companies benefit rather than suffer from locked down markets.
asciilifeform: or what, a eulora can exist on planet with 5 computers ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu comes to ft meade and the monkeys make him a personal cray-II from spare partz ?
mircea_popescu: she cooks you a meal like she does every day, i happen to be in town, come by and eat it, you come home and oops, she forgot this time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what if i, unlike you, that enjoys people, knows for a fact that any item the government nominally owns is mine for the taking ?
mircea_popescu: it is them, after all, throwing abundant resources in the chase of a pipe dream.
mircea_popescu: phf i insist on this point to impress upon the more decisive elements exactly how weak a basis for discernment we actually have.
phf: so at this point when i or ascii talk about general purpose, it is in terms of negative, a doomed attempt to undo past 20 years to continue r&d that was killed
phf: well, we don't have a definition, i don't think "we" have ever arrived at a point where definition can be provided. what constitutes a general purpose computer, which are necessary/unnecessary parts. i'm reading 80s vlsi papers and it's all up in the air. should there be math coprocessor or bake it right into cpu, etc. etc. and then you have a "microcomputer revolution", when bill/steve start selling this shit to masses
mircea_popescu: as a matter of fact it may appear, but a negative lacks the definition capacity.