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pankkake: the initial code was horrible, couldn'
t get it to compile, full of wxwindows crap where there shouldn'
t be. stayed away :/
mircea_popescu: well it's supposed to be funny by contrast. the one team that didn'
t need tech
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i don'
t get the joke, but i get your point.
BingoBoingo: I can'
t believe B007 quit before I had the chance to drop links
mike_c: you don'
t build the perfect factory by starting to build the machines. you figure out the overall process first, the steps. then you build the robots.
mircea_popescu: no, because this is not art an we aren'
t making a vase.
mircea_popescu: basically a pull rather than a push for now because we aren'
t yet as formalised
BingoBoingo: B007: You might be agreeable to that price next year, but the offer won'
t be there.
MisterE: I dunno why countries that want to break the dollar hegemony already like S. American's who have been fucked by the US / CIA for decades don'
t start their own cryptocurrency
mircea_popescu: mike_c there's no particular requirement that people who don'
t already know the rationales sould be involved in writing any code.
mike_c: fpga that did blockchain parsing would completely ignore tx malleabiality (as it should). PEP would tell you WHY you are ignoring it, so when you are writing custom shit you don'
t mess it up.
MisterE: if you transfer within CB it doesn;
t show in the blockchain
pankkake: you don'
t need a blockchain internally if you have trust
MisterE: they must there can'
t be 1 chain forever
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Exchanges don'
t have their own internal chains. They just handle the actual chain poorly
MisterE: FB almost went dark because they couldn'
t scale their php to run in huge distributed environments well
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu2: Well, if they serve you a suspicious IP at least you can know it isn'
t the meta-nsa
mike_c: A formal definition for protocol is necessary, but also insufficient. So now you know "how". But if you don'
t know "why", you are still going to end up fucked. The why is more important.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I suffered through reading it. It isn'
t bad. I've found tear gas relatively not that bad.
benkay: arguably, if you can'
t figure it out you shouldn'
t be fucking with it, and if you can'
t spend the time to learn the notation ditto.
mike_c: ah :) i guess i'm saying i wouldn'
t want algebra or java to be the spec.
mike_c: benkay: did you survive ddos? i wasn'
t asking rhetorically.
mike_c: so a UML diagram helps? I don'
t think it does.
mircea_popescu: the wet being water isn'
t an implementation detail, is it ?
mike_c: what are a couple states the machine would pass through? I don'
t see it.
decimation: I don'
t have expertise in that; I'm better at dsp code
BingoBoingo: decimation: The thing is this problem nao isn'
t in the BTC code at all.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that depends. 11 months ago there was a ridiculously central database derpocolypse. Nao there is a more subtle derpocolypse that doesn'
t seem as critical, but happens to hammer the fiat/BTC interface players hard while actual BTC cared about working too much to make those mistakes.
decimation: One must wonder, if each country in the world is truly soveirgn, why hasn'
t it occured to any of them to reinstate the gold standard?
punkman: when the merchant pays $30 to the processing bank, they don'
t turn around and give it to visa
mircea_popescu: small time merchants with a shop or w/e are being reamed, but that doesn'
t really show in the bottom line
pankkake: so I can host it on my server, but you can'
t really make calls from server to server that easily
mircea_popescu: srsly, it costs 12 cents to make them and the world isn'
t awash in fakes ? just... how.
pankkake: I still haven'
t found why that irc bot lib does not reconnect
benkay: well of course it couldn'
t possibly account for slippage
BingoBoingo: I mean spam doesn'
t even pretend to offer a return ever. Solving captchas though offers some satoshis every nao and then.
BingoBoingo: davout: It isn'
t gmail. I'm finding there are generally just less spam emails in general these days
davout: pankkake: i don'
t really follow soccer
pankkake: I haven'
t followed the details
jurov: they don'
t american football in fr
jurov: BingoBoingo: it wasn'
t sufficiently decentralized
jurov: hm can'
t comprehend that "i don'
t suppose" ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i don'
t suppose you're liable to go around deciding to beat people because "they're on your turf" and obviously they seem like townfolk so perhaps they're not quite as hard as all that.
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones well so there you go : DON'
T LOSE YOUR KEY OMFG BBQ
benkay: 'tain'
t too late to spin up a new one.
mircea_popescu: when i say to moiety "you're wasting your time doing something we know is stupid. waste your time doing something we don'
t know is stupid yet." this is what i'm referencing.
Jere_Jones: I see a lot of "That's dumb", "They are unqualified", "They shouldn'
t do that". With the exception of your "So you're thinking of starting a bitcoin business" post on bitcoin-talk (which I have read multiple times), there is almost no "Thou shalt do".
pankkake: Shakespeare: they don'
t have the same birthday. SCAM
pankkake: human psychology's weird. you often don'
t end up doing what you thought you would do
BingoBoingo: Well, at the station I suggested it might be more problematic for him if you don'
t fight back. Nearly every white person outside of the train there is usually a plain clothes police officer. He finds himself in a foreign jail ??? Profit?
davout: pankkake: the way i see it, for maximum lulz he should show up after a 5 hour trip, having had all the time to come to the conclusion that beating someone up in a public place, in a foreign country isn'
t such a good idea after all
pankkake: hm kinda wrong, once a guy punched me and I wasn'
t expecting it
pankkake: but investing in startups is often a loss; the general public doesn'
t do it however
pankkake: I don'
t think dr greg listed the things he was going to use beforehand
punkman: wouldn'
t a monkey, sans training, do better than the average bitcointalk-er?
mircea_popescu: pankkake the part you don'
t know is that i could sue you in romanian court right now
pankkake: theseven wasn'
t a willing participant
pankkake: <minerpart__> Fuck off pankkake you prick. You really think I would waste my time fucking off to France to hang around a station only to see you don'
t show up? You fucking idiot
mike_c: mpoe-pr fights the good fight for a healthy salary. i don'
t know why you bang your head against that wall.
deadweasel: well, that's the majority of the worlds opinion, as most don'
t know their ass from a hole in the ground.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I see no way that you time in person isn'
t worth at least 25 BTC to him.
pankkake: I never refused, just said I wasn'
t going to do it for free
mircea_popescu: latest on retarded blog : "president of aol is a pussy, i sent him messages to meet me at any train station of his choosing he said he doesn'
t use trains"
pankkake: I guess when you don'
t know, it's probably bad :p
jurov: nice, can'
t he be hired? or is he already?
pankkake: well they still can'
t trade anyway
mircea_popescu: at least around these parts what you say to the unhousebroken kiddios is "they ain'
t the house of your stupid mother"
mike_c: hehe, i don'
t know what gfy is, but doing that just to piss someone off is great :)
pankkake: selling emails didn'
t work? eh.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 seems smart enough. i don'
t recall the last time a large fiat corp had a smart ceo.
Duffer1: 4. we're crapping our pants over here, please don'
t do to us what netflix did to blockbuster
mircea_popescu: afaik they haven'
t yet decided whether they wish to have a future as the irc network where bitcoin happens or would rather not have any future at all.
deadweasel: freenode doesn'
t take donations anymore, iirc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform experimentally, you don'
t need that much code because not that many people will be paying anyway.
mircea_popescu: jurov: it's called polyamory << don'
t be silly, that's not decentralised love, that's just love without arbitrary barriers to entry.
jurov: all in all, i don'
t see any substantial difference
jurov: and don'
t backup after you have prolonged it
Apocalyptic: jurov, he didn'
t meant ephemeral in that way
jurov: or you don'
t backup
pankkake: well actually you don'
t sign the key, you sign an identity (name+mail usually)
pankkake: bitcoin's encryption choices come from the need to have small outputs too, gpg doesn'
t and can thus do a lot of other things