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mircea_popescu: this is your one chance to impress the adults.
usagi: You don't even know what that means, mircea
mircea_popescu: you have one hour. do something that's not available to c/p online.
mircea_popescu: so let's cut this fish then. usagi, pick a couple of stochastic processes of your choosing and demonstrate ito calculus.
usagi: Oh wow dub that really does look like me too!
mircea_popescu: no, they have bad math.
usagi: Actually it is interesting that you mention quants, I wonder if any of the bots around here have any good math inside them
copumpkin: everyone on the internet is a pornstar
mircea_popescu: when they're done being an astronaut and Casanova.
mircea_popescu: everyone on the internet is a dog
usagi: Everyone here is a trader mircea that isn't something special
copumpkin: dragostea din tei
mircea_popescu: they went through customer roosters and picked people to hire to train as brokers.
usagi: Yeah well see this is what I am talking about.
mircea_popescu: for instance, when they made the first large romanian brokerage house, way back in the 90s
usagi: You keep saying how much you know about finance and how little the people who disagree with you do
usagi: [06:12:20] <mircea_popescu> da fuck is that. like a riemann ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that. like a riemann ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno who trusts their "financial privacy" anymore anyway
mircea_popescu: great peering all through
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i think they're right in the middle of the german ring
dub: error: could not open database: /var/run/db/juniper.db: Too many open files in system
BTC-Mining: Why switzerland? Because of the financial laws?
mircea_popescu: i kinda like singlehop too
rg: probably this month
mircea_popescu: good site to test sites with anyway.
rg: and i have a bunchof shit to do
rg: im about to eat lunch
rg: you do ti
mircea_popescu: well you run it, what, just put the url in
rg: i bet they'll all work
rg: api.browsershots.org to be exact
mircea_popescu: http://browsershots.org/screenshots/64f1bc22d6d0a33c6f7dad7fb9f2a247 some loaded tho
rg: look at the URL being loaded
rg: its not that IP
rg: dude look at the URL theyre loading
mircea_popescu: like 9x% of them timed out
rg: im on the other side of the country
rg: someone else view that
rg: seems fine to me..
rg: and that 1 is your ruby process
rg: it shouldn't be too slow
rg: someone has been syncing a bitcoind after i told them not to
rg: is that bad dub?
dub: I forget who but a reasonably big news outfit did a sting buy of chinese collagen which tested as human derived
nefario: communism with "chinese characterisitics" is what they call it
mircea_popescu: impossible to discern truth from journofiction in those tho
dub: there are stories of prisoners having their skin harvested for collagen while still alive
nefario: off to the 4 year gulag
dub: (biotech manufacturing plants are attached to prisons in china)
dub: if they complain the'll probably end up being injected into an americans lips
mircea_popescu: i guess it must happen often then.
dub: like simply having everythign they have ever owned taken by someone else with no recourse
dub: it doesnt matter if you trust them or they are trustworthy, an event that seems unconscionable to you is normal to them
nefario: why even bother trying
nefario: maybe there was less
nefario: maybe there wasn't more
mircea_popescu: they had a layered cake of conventions, deals and dealings a mile tall.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i read the logs. zhou was "not getting a salary" ?
mircea_popescu: there certainly is more to the friend took money gave back story tho.
nefario: ja still need to be careful even with family
dub: you can't control what happens to them because the entire country is corrupt
mircea_popescu: hmmm... isn't this what the chinese themselves do ? only deal in family ?
nefario: funny enough is often how things work there
nefario: wouldn't trust anyone else
nefario: I would only do business with family there
nefario: you never had the chance to learn for yourself
mircea_popescu: but they seemed ok
mircea_popescu: i only knew a handful of chinese people, and never been there
mircea_popescu: what, all the chinese are liars now ?
nefario: so I generally dont trust any of them
dub: because they are baldfaced lying morons
dub: thing is its a perfectly reasonable story to a chinaman
mircea_popescu: nefario wasn't slush hit in that one too ? the vps thing ?
mircea_popescu: dub it's such a stupid story tho... who the fuck knows anymore.
nefario: I haven't believed zhou since the first hack
dub: you damn conspiracy theorist
dub: nefario: so you believe zhou's story? that his 'friend' took the money then gave it back?
mircea_popescu: this is doable but SO DIFFICULT to do...
usagi: Do you have logs of the ip who created the trade?
mircea_popescu: well the story is that someone connected to a server through which they connected to the server where they held unencrypted pws of the wallet.
nefario: I hate all this conspiracy talk
nefario: BUY smokes with them
usagi: and all those big bad banks? they were right all along
nefario: smoke them
usagi: Bitcoins are a way to drag hackers and techies kicking and screaming into the real world; the wot trust model doesn't work
copumpkin: bitcoins are like totally awesome dude
mircea_popescu: if we turn this into a paranoid xenophobia we will just wither and die.
mircea_popescu: yeah, this is a serious problem, in and of itself.
mircea_popescu: nefario : for sure we have HUGE obstacles to overcome before this is all settled.
nefario: people are able to easily re-invent their identity online
nefario: as there is always someone who is willing to do business with them
mircea_popescu: historically it worked, with the banishment. course we dunno if it ever can be made to work again.
nefario: and even banishment doesn't work in an environment like this
nefario: I think there is limits to a WOT and OTC where there is no enforcement of contracts beyond banishment from the community
mircea_popescu: take the taming of the shrew as a fine example. servant and master switch roles. everyone knows there is a master, but nobody knows WHO exactly it is. except his own father.
mircea_popescu: why do you think ? because the entire economy was run as a pseudonymous wot.
mircea_popescu: most of the classical art (operas etc) are based on mistaken identity
mircea_popescu: as nobody could REALLY verify identity past this
nefario: were they?