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mod6: For
these sorts of
things, don't hesitate
to send a formal pgpgram
to me.
mircea_popescu: the difference between me and
ten
thousand librarians who also read
the same books is
that i don't go around spitting out
the references in lieu of doing
the inadherent wwwism.
mircea_popescu: gotta speak ~to~ whoever you'e speaking
to ; not ~of~ whatever you're speaking of.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform,
tis more
than just
the rss / "wwwism is foreign and repulsive
to asciilifeform". you've seen me communicate clearly and early about
ten
thousand
times, and here you are stuck doing late ineffectuality. not good.
mod6: So, you're saying, basically, $180 extra, per month? Or how does
this go?
mod6: Hey, let's get real for a moment. I'm not disputing any of
that!
mircea_popescu: don't start pointing fingers and acting like idiots about it, either. you've got a problem, because
to survive one must stay agile, not senilize before
the
time.
mircea_popescu: that he ~tried
to~ is evident ;
that it didn't work is even more evident. you lot have
to have words
together and get better at
this.
mod6: Maybe picture becomes slightly more clear after
this months report.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:11 asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes -- a 10% diff in what BingoBoingo eats, will not make or break us, either we find customers and float, else -- sink. on
the other hand, a starved and demoralized BingoBoingo is pretty bad for biznis. we do not have a spare BingoBoingo .
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me will expose
the hand, might as well be upfront about
things. so, asciilifeform did at some point express some interest in learning
the magical crafts of management ; i since fed him
the occasional dollop, in
the manner
this craft was always
taught whenever it was
taught. as part of
this, when he left for montevideo i specifically
told him
to recognize BingoBoingo 's efforts with a raise early rather
than late for
a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 01:22 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 , plox
to put
the matter ^ before board.
mod6: And aside from
that, I'm not opposed outright
to
this, but before we start handing out more money, I'd like
to see where Pizarro stands as far as how much further we need
to go
to break-even, etc.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i've already brought it up on record 2x.
the other members of
the board have not yet answered. << I have not seen or been given any formal proposal for anything of such a raise.
mircea_popescu: lobbes,
this was conceived as a priority item, because ideally quick
to do. but ...
lobbes: In fact, it occurred
to as I was about
to list my
TODO in-channel
that it may be more beneficial
to bake it as a blog post. Would allow
the forum
to suggest re-prioritizations as well as serve as a single place I can point
to and say "this be what I'm working on right now". Anyways, I'll bake one
tonight
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 15:50 mircea_popescu: lobbes, how about you look at his published db schema, and propose a py script he can run
that delivers
the desired rss ?
this something you can do ?
mircea_popescu: the board's
there
to help not
to get in
the way, as a concept.
mircea_popescu: understand
that when you opt ot make "small donations" as a palliative measure
to reconcile
the goat and
the cabbage you're not using
the
tool.
this is orcism, "i don't know how
to work vacuum cleanner but did some fingerbanging of
the dust ad interim"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you gotta get better at
talking
things
through ;
the "other members"
talk has its places but
this isn't one.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: it is greatly appreciated. And
there's still a lot of adult business/figuring out exactly what pizarro is going on, which is why I have been letting it slide. But being several months into
this venture
the silence on
this issue from
the rest of
the board is a sore spot, I have no idea if it is a
thing
they are even considering.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 02:30 mircea_popescu: well, good
thing you gave him a raise, just as
this
thing became one helluva anklet.
BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808532 << Other
than alf voicing general support for
the idea, I am completely unaware of any ongoing discussions
to improve my compensation.
That we have arrived in May without any proposals has me somewhat feeling like I got played for
the sucker on
this.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo,
take
the peruana for a day
trip ? i find
tits surroundant make airflight bearable.
mircea_popescu: oh right you are, it was a coupla hours ~to colonia~. coupla hundy km
to montevideo from
there.
BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808335 << Five hours if I
take
the more expensive ferry out of Montevideo. 6+ if I go
to colonia for
the cheaper
ticket, but
that involves a bus. Few
things are less enjoyable
the being stuck on a
tin can full of Uruguayos.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: anytway, chicken dun enter into
this, animal's a fucking reptile not a mammal.
BingoBoingo: I have had rabbit a number of
times. Enjoy picking out
the bits of shot.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not yet. Can pick some up at
the feria. Now
that I know we have Loros, I am kinda curious how
those
taste.
trinque: mircea_popescu: no argument
to
the contrary here
trinque: it's just a ball of pyshit, reading rss, accounting in sqlite, writing
to logbot's outbox
table
mircea_popescu: trinque, honestly i'd much rather just fix
the rss
than stand up a dedicated bot. way
the fuck cheaper and rather more adequate
to
the actual
task at hand.
trinque: isn't
that
the point? lol!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform,
that sort of
thinking is how we got here in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: there's also a chunk doing ip geolocation,
trinque published coupla days ago, should go in.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, how about you look at his published db schema, and propose a py script he can run
that delivers
the desired rss ?
this something you can do ?
☟︎ lobbes: I still dun get why seperate channel wouldn't work? deedbot
today somehow does xyz and successfully announces phuctor pops here. Why can't one of
the n00bs stand up a bot
to do
the same
thing... but in a side channel? Shouldn't require any changes at all
to standing phuctor process, right?
mircea_popescu: otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure
through 5000 update file requests.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but in
the very constrained environment
there proposed
they'll have
to do a bunch of debugging, hence
the "make
them a user" notion.
BingoBoingo: Alive, catching up on logs and about
to hit
the datacenter
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 15:30 asciilifeform: anyone who wants
to volunteer
to write
this, can use
the db snapshot i previously published ( it contains, naturally,
the schema. )
to
test, remove some entries from factors
table,
then add'em back in ( ideally several dozen at a
time )
mircea_popescu: but be
that as it may : giving someone
the capacity
to read
the db has no bearing on breaking. can reading
the db break anything ?
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know
this can be done with c and python.
mircea_popescu: weren't you just explaining
that
there's a python display part and a c work part, and you suck at
the python part ?
mircea_popescu: well yes but looky : all projects
to be useful must communicate. giving someone else
the communication part certainly has some aspects of relinquishing control, but you can't at
the same
time not know how
to communicate and not work with someone who does. it's self-defeating,
this strategy.
mircea_popescu: suppose you create a unix user ; give it read-only priviledges on extant
tables, and let someone else write a webfacing
thing for you ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, what you got running on
that machine, lamp ? apache + python bindings ?
mircea_popescu: this will of course bring
to
the fore
the deep reason rss feed was principal avenue into
the data, ie
that
the web view is not really very useful, but anyways.