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diana_coman: lol, internet a la cluj ☟︎
diana_coman: at which point recovery is a bitch way worse than restart; I suppose the point might be "don't die, just make it clear there's nobody answering "
diana_coman: not notice it until all of a sudden nothing fits ☟︎
diana_coman: you mean if it timeouts on a request then it lets it just lets it be? it makes it even simpler from my pov, not as if it's an issue but essentially I'm not sure how do you then avoid the case where you play happily offline and ...not notice it? ☟︎
diana_coman: yes; and the requester (this dedicated monopoly on askings) will pack and send specific requests: server, what is an armor of the stars and a sword of the pigs?
mp_en_viaje: at this juncture, if it finally gets a workable armor of the stars, it dresses both a and b in it ; but if not, whatever.
mp_en_viaje: but because an item it uses a default for is mentioned again, not because of any retries.
mp_en_viaje: at t7 client decides "well, wtf, it's an armor, so ima show a wearing default armor, and whatever"
mp_en_viaje: at t6 server replies : "b is a so and so and back and forth... and on his chest wears the armor of the stars, and bla bla bla".
mp_en_viaje: at t4 client continues its inquiry, "what's a b ?" ; at t5 client notices it doesnt know wtf such an armor is, so asks sefver "what's an armor of the stars ?"
mp_en_viaje: and at t3 server replies : "a is a so and so and back and forth... and on his chest wears the armor of the stars, and bla bla bla".
diana_coman: so a-f are data and therefore stored in cache as such; there are those things a-f ; nothing more
mp_en_viaje: client notices it doesn't know wtf these are ; so at t2 says "what's an a ?"
mp_en_viaje: so, server tells client at t1 "and then you came upon five persons, a, b, c, d, e, f".
diana_coman: as a higher-level concern than Requester's ; requester is specifically concerned with trying to get whatever is asked of it *from the server*; it can of course decide on what it requests first for instance (perhaps the item that was demanded of it most times since last request)
mp_en_viaje: as a fall through you mean ?
mp_en_viaje: ie, if 10 people go on a raid and 5 of them wear armor of the stars, said armor will be mentioned by server 5 times.
mp_en_viaje: mentioned means the client sees an object it doesn't have in a server communication.
diana_coman: it keeps them in a queue, those items here are demanded
diana_coman: it will be a different one ANYWAY
diana_coman: it is not as such a "retry" i.e. the request will not be a new one
mp_en_viaje: logically speaking, if it's unimportant it's unimportant ; this is a game world criterion your retry cache can't figure out.
diana_coman: not a big issue or change of core there
diana_coman: uhm; on one hand the "does it die or not" is a tiny thing i.e. it is a decision of what-do if not received;
mp_en_viaje: in limine, an eulora client which plays with 100% default data objects, everyone-is-an-axe-cutting-axes-with-axes-on-axe-planet is a-ok.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, speaking of http://ossasepia.com/2019/05/27/euloras-client-core-the-dedicated-requester/#selection-41.2-41.111 i don't see the wisdom in this position. suppose your client sees a new type of whatever, and manages to get everything but the icon. a) your path would require it to die trying but b) evidently going ahead while using a ~default~ icon until gets a better one is perfectly acceptable.
mp_en_viaje: let's leave a breadcrumb for billymg, too, whynot.
mp_en_viaje: (there's also a js doing wordcount on pressing enter, and a few other sugar cubes like that)
mp_en_viaje: ]there;s also a js autosave if you have js enabled in browser ; these may have interracted weirdly i guess.
mp_en_viaje: well anyway, regardless of implementation, the design idea there is that article title always has a ready gensym in the shape of the numeric id of the table entry, which is unique and always known and therefore should be the fallback default.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, no, it saves it with a numeric title.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of which, if anyone is in the area and wants to meet, speak up, i'll be around for a few days
diana_coman: in other stepping-in-all-the-holes : it seems I found a fail-mode of mp-wp browser interface namely if one pastes the content of a post first and only then (possibly after it rushes to quick save it or whatevers) the title, it fails miserably as it apparently tries to save it with title "" (notwithstanding that no, it should not, there is actually a title to it) ☟︎
Mocky: just got back from a hiking trip. catching up on logs ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in accounting lulz, https://goingconcern.com/heres-a-visual-a-naked-64-year-old-accountant-in-bed-with-a-madame-surrounded-by-cash/
mircea_popescu: like them or not, the ustards have a pretty functional colonial empire going : the orcs pay them by the wheelbarrow in order to "secretly" ruin their own shit. it's almost an exact re-enaction of medieval papacy functioning.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, reading your dispatches is a pleasure, they're quite well made. i suspect the answer to the http://bingology.net/2018/09/12/uruguayo-political-snapshot-for-future-reference/#selection-63.1-63.109 riddle as well as the direct cause of a 15k seater costing >100mn is their "great neigjhbour to the distant north".
mircea_popescu: then he retired into a marriage with thalia (this kinda-fat latino-interest "star").
mircea_popescu: s invented the tatu "lesbians" or that ro retired gangster invented "inna" (and yes he married her) ; then he woke up, smartened up, and simply sampled the goods : shakira and j-lo ever shared a bed while sucking his dick as yet-unknown stags.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is deeply related to how quickly they go nuts. mj made a little money in the early 80s, was well detached from reality by '86 ? well duh.
mircea_popescu: the more i think about it the more it becomes obvious that a) there's no class in the us, as everyone MEETS THE ~SAME NUMBER OF WOMEN ; b) that number was ALWAYS extremely tiny, a few dozen and obviously c) it's dropped significantly past coupla decades and might continue dropping.
mircea_popescu: oh and speaking of http://trilema.com/2019/counterfit-romania/#comment-129195 : michael jackson, "king of pop", "one-man rescue team for the music business", icon bla bla bla etcetera etcetera married... his doctor's nurse. just liek any other made-a-litte-money-now-what ustard out there.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : bubblegum pop was a studio & producer driven attempt at re-couperating the change pumped into the poor and the stupid. not music in any sense, much like youtube crap today ; but it was marketed to teens, and holy shit look through the charts -- whole thing reads like a "bumpkin discovered sugar" testament.
mircea_popescu: that's another thing, the army is ~specifically~ not for providing the stupid cunts back at home with a cushy dependoplan.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If that was the portion of the US they were recruiting. Instead they are having a single moms jobs program eat it all.
mircea_popescu: the very weird thing with this set is that they don't even wanna skimp on the armor. ustardians suffer of ~0% of the classical euro failurem mode, of being too smart. they'll go to the fuckign gym just to instagram their abs.
mircea_popescu: the only way to run a fucking army is a) you sign up for 25 years ; b) you rape and pillage -- get the equivalent loot share as precious metal medal after every fight ; c) when retiring you get plot of land and you are obligated to marry at least two local teenagers and fucking live there with their children.
mircea_popescu: empire of impernanence, "you know what, instead of giving veterans forty acres and a mule, we'll sent them to florida".
mircea_popescu: if only. what next, air guitar as a class signifier ?
BingoBoingo: Then again USG does college loans and not Machu Pichu loans. Now there's the situation where comparatively cheap Machu Pichu is a more reliable class signifier than college degree. Should have done it the other way around.
mircea_popescu: buncha fucken wankers, "if i check these checkboxes..." what then ? "mp can't accuse me of being a wanker" ? gimme a fucking break.
mircea_popescu: shoulda won the oscars in 1952, what the fuck is this lame-ass post-party shit, "for my kids' 5th birthday we hired michael's 3d reconstructed ghost to touch them on the dolly" / "we went to woodstock 2019 re-enaction" / "i sniffed the seat on which a hot woman sat six hours ago" etc.
mircea_popescu: somehow the zombie horde of muricans picked one of the three as their witlessing point. it's fucking unseemly ; the only thing "i climbed mount everest" does in a social context is communicate you gotta be fucking punched. like "being a nobel laureate" or "having won the oscars" or whatever other such zombie glory.
asciilifeform suspects linked item was a shannonized parody
BingoBoingo: I've met a few. They tend to be very sad or angry, but mostly sad.
asciilifeform: 'In 1979, DEC UK, under its American manager, Mr. Darryl Barbé launched a formal campaign known as the "Kill Systime" campaign. He had the full support of the American management. The DEC president, Mr. Ken Olsen, was subsequently overheard leaving a board-level meeting with another company, declaring that he wished to see Systime out of business. Mr. Pier-Carlo Falotti, European vice-president of DEC, said to DEC staff: I want you
asciilifeform: time's management commenced an anti-trust action in which the British Government took an amicus curiae position. DEC drew back and agreed to a partial continuation of supply. Systime appeared to have won a breathing space, but it was only temporary....'
BingoBoingo: Anyways, torrys and "Unionists" have some time to pick a stooge for the fall job. If they can't get a fall guy General elections.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But its a terminal gig for whichever meatpuppet gets it. Once they take the chair they get however many months of salary as prime minister and that's it. A very Shremmy problem.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it aint as if there were a shortage of suitable meatpuppets
asciilifeform: london is moar of a perma-move miamistan destination.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-24#1915428 << last i knew, place was riotously packed with ru tourists. ( to the point that errytime they have a car bomb etc go off, ru foreign ministry makes Official broadcast '...and x ru tourists ate frags' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:42 mp_en_viaje: and yes, the welfare state has produced a lot of really dumb engineers, through the simple process of making a lot of parents comfortable. their kids become engineers not because anything to do with either engineering or intelligence -- but simply because that's the sort of thing kids with an invulnerability delusion do.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:42 mp_en_viaje: and yes, the welfare state has produced a lot of really dumb engineers, through the simple process of making a lot of parents comfortable. their kids become engineers not because anything to do with either engineering or intelligence -- but simply because that's the sort of thing kids with an invulnerability delusion do.
mircea_popescu: https://www.oglaf.com/forecast/ << such excellent concise statement of pantsuitism. "nothing to do with us", this is a ~possibility~ to the pantsuit mind. which happens to be the definition of the term : a pantsuit is the mentally deranged who imagines just like a cow or a boulder exist, so his "indemnity" exists, there can be such a thing as "nothing to do with him". ties directly into both [http://trilema.com/2018/the-pr
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:47 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914957 << understand the problem -- if someone wishes to sign something, they're probably making a deed, which they'll publish on their own castle walls and on the republican deedpost. they
diana_coman: to my mind if it eats you then the rest doesn't make a lot of difference in the end.
mircea_popescu: what do you find scarier, a mouth open so wide you can see the teeth, or a mouth open so wide you can't even see the teeth ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-24 06:38 mircea_popescu: cuntfear, produced as the reflection of the (young) female coy behaviour in the (socially isolated) male, is the basic, universal driver of all the idiotic subcultural behaviour.
mircea_popescu: nicoleci, there's a lot of these schmucks, who "don't want to assume". shit's scary, what! imagine, it bleeds monthly and you don't die, it's always wet yet you don't rust, IT CREATED THE WORLD!!!
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:35 mp_en_viaje: he is the sort of guy who doesn't fuck a lot of women, doesn't speak a lot of languages, doesn't like reading things he doesn't know how to interpret and spends a lot of time fucking intricately with garbage.
mircea_popescu: cuntfear, produced as the reflection of the (young) female coy behaviour in the (socially isolated) male, is the basic, universal driver of all the idiotic subcultural behaviour. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the "debate" (between sex as a purely performative activity and "moral" sex) directly mirrors the older "purpose of literature" wank. it's a sure sign you're reading cvasi-literate morons when all their crap has a "clear moral tendency". which is actually the deep reason you don't like inane anglowank like jane austen, and ALSO why gay-in-denial us math grad / budapest "writer" does "like" it.
mircea_popescu: cooption towards their preoccupations was already a clear sign of imminent reversion. after all, the savage finding a radio will first gaze in mindblown delight, then attempt to cure his warts with it, then go back to chasing squirrels. same here.
mircea_popescu: thus pedestrian vomit like "pua" as well as reactive nonsense like "re-protestant/original xtianity", "straightedge" etcetera. they're all the ~same thing, epiphenomena among the inconsequential, and you'll readily notice the rlationship between peons' reaction to my showing up and these dudes reaction to porn as a cultural phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: the immigrant's experience of tearing, right, in the particular case of 1980s to 2000s immigration had a very strong sexual component that the poor fucks in question were eminently ill equipped to digest.
mircea_popescu: certainly. though the schmuck in question was never mainstream ; he's part of a specific outer cloud of wankers that never amounted to anything beyond sadness.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-23 16:30 BingoBoingo: In the ongoing saga of a bizarre character: https://archive.is/mOwmu
BingoBoingo: In other lulz, Nuland denied a visa to Russia
asciilifeform: there usedto be a whole 'www ring' of folx like that
mircea_popescu: he wrote this peculiarly elliot-like tedious piece abut fucking a 17yo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno whether that d00d even had a 'scheme'. was generic loud redditus iirc
a111: Logged on 2019-05-23 16:35 BingoBoingo: This problem seems to be why every popular effort at making a political right ends up turning into another socialist left
BingoBoingo: His audience is/was interesting for being the sort of alt-right which, had chance taken them saner... could have been a recruiting ground.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is looking so. The switch is only a few hours old, but...
mircea_popescu: hm ? it's a cpu fan, it steps and everything
mircea_popescu: in other sads : amd fx proc has one helluva hea tsink. it even includes a cool light rim around the outside
asciilifeform: lulzily, for some yrs i occasionally read his www, and all that time thought it was named for some obscure algo ( y'know, how there is 'ant-colony optimization', variant on simulated annealing with multiple threads and 'pheromone trails' , imagined there is perhaps also a 'shtetl optimization'... )
a111: Logged on 2019-05-23 16:38 asciilifeform did not read at length the 'red pill' people, but recalls that they had distinct streak of 'nostalgia' for a quasi-mythical past when 'would be issued a wife by village' etc
BingoBoingo wonders how much of the turn involves shrooms and psychadelics turning into a fad among that set of kids
BingoBoingo: My impression is that growing up in a land of insanity they ended up searching for sanity and ended up wandering into a different insanity
asciilifeform did not read at length the 'red pill' people, but recalls that they had distinct streak of 'nostalgia' for a quasi-mythical past when 'would be issued a wife by village' etc ☟︎
BingoBoingo: This problem seems to be why every popular effort at making a political right ends up turning into another socialist left ☟︎
BingoBoingo: In the ongoing saga of a bizarre character: https://archive.is/mOwmu ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Sure, but no one think of computers as a known-price item here.
asciilifeform: pnoje is used as a comp substitute, neh, not transport
BingoBoingo: A computer isn't the price comparison point here. This is Uruguay, they compare to the price of a motocicleta.
asciilifeform: if to think about 'price ceiling', there is of course not a ceiling, even in 1990s there was somebody who sold gold-plated, diamond-encrusted motorola brickpnoje
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huawei sells pNohe models that dwarf Apple in price. The own the high end with a strong presence in the mid range market
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-23#1915314 << for all i know, long ago already bought. reminds me of a fella i knew who compulsively bought old cars ( and garages, all over town, to put'em in, in which for them to rust... ) ☝︎