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mp_en_viaje: very boring story imo, but for its flatulent
tedium popular.
mp_en_viaje: whereas
the narrative of amateurship, also well standardized by now, is rather novel ; completed by about 1880s or so. "this is a
thing i do ; but i am not
this
thing i do".
mp_en_viaje: the narrative of business was definitively complete cca 1700, it's like any other folk
tale, always goes
the exact same way.
mp_en_viaje: and from
there on, "we aim
to sell ~20 or ~200 or whatever item,
therefore so many of
them, and
to get
to
that we do
this" and on and on and on.
mp_en_viaje: 2+3 produce 4 :
to make 50k / year at 20%, one must generate 20k/month in sales
mp_en_viaje: 3. you being a fortunately specified
thing, will have also clear needs. "i want 50k/year"
mp_en_viaje: the whole
tree is given
there,
too : 1.
to dedicate life
to X, X must cover your living.
this is
true
today as it was always
true, monastery provided monk wioth food enough
to live, so as
to make "dedicate life" possible. because, elementarily, if no food life ends, even if
the monk stubborn enough
to not move
to greener pastrues.
BingoBoingo: If
this
thing grows and you fill cages upon cages, it survives. It it doesn't grow, when shit happens instead of being an ISP you end up with your upstream deciding you are a "problem customer"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's going
to need
the mechanized contact churner Pizarro never got. Even doing
this in
the reich with cheaper cages and more fiber,
the
thing has
to grow
to survive.
mp_en_viaje: it's not "im going
to do
this for rest of life." it's "this is what i'm gonna do with myself, for rest of life".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:02:14 mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje>
this sorta-kinda-and-i-do-what-i-please
thingee is of no value and no interest. if you're seruous about committibng
the rest of your life
to running an isp, we can
talk about some business.
mp_en_viaje: what sorta margin do you need, what sorta margin do you intend
to charge per box, how many boxes
that comes
to and how do you intend
to scare up.
mp_en_viaje: well, so
therein lies
the problem : your margin must >= your living expenses, else
the "dedicate life" is a sorta joke. a coupla boxes from me won't ever support such a margin, so what's missing is what you intend
to do about
this.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje>
this sorta-kinda-and-i-do-what-i-please
thingee is of no value and no interest. if you're seruous about committibng
the rest of your life
to running an isp, we can
talk about some business.
ossabot: (eulora) 2019-10-18 mp_en_viaje: chickachew, atm
the server's offline ; long story, our uruguay dc died an unseemly death and in
the process of moving atm
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
the part I can't see is how can
they end up better shipped from Uruguay
than just bought in
the US and shipped
to you; re
the rest I got it and it can wait; onth s.mg servers better online asap since uhm, so far had
to even
tell new players
that
no server mp_en_viaje: honestly, we prolly dun wanna wait, better
to re-make
the servers starting
this weekend
than
to wait for w/e
diana_coman: asciilifeform: by
the sounds of it
though it would anyway be cheaper for s.mg if putting
them in your rack
to just buy
the servers in
the us and ship
to your door, no?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'm really in no hurry re pizarro but since
there's
the
talk re how much for
the s.mg servers and so on - is
there some concrete plan on how will
this and all
the rest be determined
to
tidy it all up?
mp_en_viaje: holy fuckingshitsticks. how hard is it, you
talk
to someone, ABOUT
THEM.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:50:40 mp_en_viaje: in
the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down
to what it costs. what does pizarry want for
the
two boxes used
to run smg servers before ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well,
there was
the naive assumption on my part
that "how hard can it be"; fwiw
though I rather doubt it really makes a difference simply because
there is no real interaction from
the other side either.
mp_en_viaje: but he's certainly made it more difficult for anyone coming after him. which is
the exact fucking opposite of helping.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: and yes re painful + it was worse; no idea why is it so hard apparently
to actually
talk
to people on
the internets.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i got it fixed meanwhile ;
ty.
mp_en_viaje: no more
timbrion-style "diplomacy" plox ; not from him nor from anyone else, it's
too much like
three stoges religious service.
mp_en_viaje: i really can't read
this nonsense ; it's fucking painful.
mp_en_viaje: hey
trinque, you about for entitrely unrelated issues from a few hours ago ?
nicoleci: what am i going
to do, copy/paste by hand byte by byte over here?
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, well i don't atm know what
to do. basically
there's 6.6mb i'm
trying
to send you. i
tried split -n5 and deedbot's paste still spits (1.3mb chunks, so
the limit is only 1mb ???)
mp_en_viaje: nicoleci,
that shit dun work, "curl: (35) error:1407742E:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert protocol version"
mp_en_viaje foresees a whole fucking ocean of
these before we're done, much like
the few good rockbands of
the 70s had an entire fucking ocean of morons with guitars
trying
their best
to choke
them out
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 22:13:06 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lint
traps,
new lolz from a very old
lolcow .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 16:52:03 asciilifeform: does not know whether smg has
the provisions
to operate ~simultaneous~ mirrors , but if does, may be good idea
to sit in 2+ racks
mp_en_viaje: in
the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down
to what it costs. what does pizarry want for
the
two boxes used
to run smg servers before ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 16:50:42 asciilifeform: additionally , if smg would like
to operate 1 or moar boxen here in asciilifeform's cage, i'ma happily service, either on
transported iron, or on own stock, either worx .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 15:44:00 diana_coman: asciilifeform: ha, congrats! honestly, by
the sound of it, once you got moving, you found everything needed!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 14:53:27 asciilifeform: presently puzzling over where
to get exchange rate for pricing; prolly will have
to lift from BingoBoingo's auctions, for so long as
they're happening with reasonable regularity .
mp_en_viaje: stop
tryna fix imaginary problems as a
transparent cover-up for not fixing existing problems. it's
transparent and it'll stay
transparent, disavowing it'll NEVER work
mp_en_viaje: the problem of pizarro was, 100%, your joint an' several failure
to build it a customer base.
mp_en_viaje: to be perfectly clear, nfi why
this keeps gettting forgotten, and
thereby needs
to be reiterated :
the problem of pizarro was NOT!!!! anything even vaguely or remotely similar
to "general staff in same
trench". in part because eg, i resisted moving
trilema whenever you asked, in part because
trinque similarily, and so on. we had EXCELLENT partition of services, and principally because you weren't involved with doing it.
mp_en_viaje: if you don't change for change's sake
then you're happy with everything as it is, if hilary didn't give you your rights
then pangloss gave you
the best possible world, god fucking love 'em with a sharpened stick already.
mp_en_viaje: this is
the fucking problem with
the "progressive" claptrap : it is
the only cure democracy/retardation has yet come up with
to deal with
these other morons.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: but
they are happy as
they are!!11