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lobbes: I tried to press on the first pass with asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch, and it -seemed- to work. I essentially followed the trb how-to ONLINE build, but then downloaded the aggressive patch and seal from btcbase/patches
mod6: Hey, thanks for saving those versions!
lobbes: my guess is my press may be the cause
mod6: I presume you got a good press when you used V to press it out?
mod6: alright. looks to me like it got all the way through the deps builds, but for some reason puked when trying to build trb itself.
lobbes: yeah, I can jump on and see if I can get the full thing via screen.log
mod6: how much of your log was snipped? looks like tons.
mod6: Yeah, hmm, I might be mis-remembering or misreading this one. Lemme look again
lobbes: yeah, I made sure gcc was 4. Actually, I have notes on the exact versions of all the packages listed in: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
mod6: try seeing in your shell if "c" is linked to anything.
mod6: did you downgrade your gcc from (6 or whatever it is to 4, I'm guessing you did)? And perhaps I recall something not being quite linked correctly in
mod6: yeah, I believe i have seen something like this before
lobbes: mircea_popescu, oh nice tip! I'll have to check for it..
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ditto danielpbarron or anybody else whose hands grow from correct organ and wants to step up to this mission << werd
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval << Sounds good to me, gotta work out the details, etc, but hey, yeah, whatever we can do to push into heathondom
lobbes: i.e. not yet figured out trb, because I've been working on mp-wp migration
lobbes: oh no, that is trb
lobbes: well, the tail end of the log (I neglected to log the output of 'screen')
lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i like mircea_popescu's optimism and good spirit << Same, thanks for your advise and insights, Sir.
mod6: lobbes: did you ever figure out your trb issue that you ran into?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809270 << jesus fucking christ, ~every time you're in here there's a new rendition of this abject kramerism. why not read what people are saying rather than jump to the same idiosyncratically-imagined categories of what people could possibly express? what, you figure making the same brushstroke over and over will eventually paint tmsr into what'd be convenient for you personally? ☝︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell fromdeedbot stop join/parting.
ben_vulpes: oh dear i am going to need a vastly better system for debiting unearned income.
mircea_popescu: these mega fucking logs of late... i dunno how the lurkers do it.
mircea_popescu: you know this eulora server is actually more connection-stable than th eother one ?
trinque: come on back with a better nick "fromdeedbot", and register that.
mircea_popescu: i like how there's practically no snark here ever at all.
trinque: and the way this is going, understand he doesn't mean touch your computer screen
fromdeedbot: from my terminal
mircea_popescu: fromdeedbot, you can't register this nick ; pick a better one. then say !!register and your fingerprint.
fromdeedbot: gpg: key 498478E2A39BD8C1 marked as ultimately trusted
mircea_popescu: SOMEONE ELSE reg'd that nick.
ben_vulpes: fromdeedbot: you read the faq and help pages
ben_vulpes: yes and thank you!
ben_vulpes: lol he actually got the fromdeedbot handle
mircea_popescu: lmao check him out, he actually registered that nick.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:05 mircea_popescu: anyway, /me will expose the hand, might as well be upfront about things. so, asciilifeform did at some point express some interest in learning the magical crafts of management ; i since fed him the occasional dollop, in the manner this craft was always taught whenever it was taught. as part of this, when he left for montevideo i specifically told him to recognize BingoBoingo 's efforts
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-4#349507 << i too would like some of these dollops, should one slide from your spoon
fromdeedbot: my bad i thought i did
ben_vulpes: !!up fromdeedbot you gotta close the web page when you close your laptop
ben_vulpes: imma rework april, thanks for catching my derps mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: fully-rented 4u of this would bring us to breakeven at $50/mo, but demands 100% occupancy, otoh that's only 25% of 16U rockchip plant occupancy. so, i don't see a really compelling case for bringing the price down much further.
mircea_popescu: and he wanted a bitcoin miner. this is higher btc/watt
mircea_popescu: and if they last 10 years you're basically printing money.
ben_vulpes: looks like the monthly cost basis, assuming a 1-yr amortization horizon is 18.35 usd
mircea_popescu: moreover alf has a solid point. you have 0 interest in dealing with local orcs. there's a reason chinese soy farm in africa dun sell soy to africans.
mircea_popescu: and you'll run out of uruguay before you run out of them.
trinque: mircea_popescu: who's the customer you have in mind?
ben_vulpes: fromdeedbot: a) the whole name is tab-completable and should be used b) it's really not that hard dood
mircea_popescu: trinque, not really. it's like trying to direct marketing effort at montana.
ben_vulpes: word, thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: i just gave a shoutout to pizarro on l0de
fromdeedbot: @ben the process of registering a key
asciilifeform: ( to complain, wheedle, demand refunds for emptied bottle, etc )
ben_vulpes: heh judging from teh l0de patreon page could buy some airtime
asciilifeform: selling to locals might actually be a dangerous liability, for all we know they have 'legal rights' to xyz
trinque: or one of you folks, but they already heard from him a few times.
trinque: and the other idea I had was sending danielpbarron back into l0de radio hour with an ad
ben_vulpes: trinque: that was what was behind the minimal hosting gedankenexperiment
trinque: they don't buy website hosting there?
mircea_popescu: trinque, sell to locals ?! but why the fuck.
fromdeedbot: i'm hoping that this system will be streamlined a bit
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, serving trilema (ie, high bw, inconsequential io/cpuram) / doing phuctor (heavy cpuram, inconsequentual io/bw).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from the fact that nobody has any such thing to send... there's 2.5kW iirc in the rack, of which maybe half a kw is actually drawn. so in principle such a thing could.
fromdeedbot: i really like the concept of web based on accountability and credibility
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what'd the other nonbitcoinating kind of compute be?
fromdeedbot: i looked i need to download software
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nobody's going to send a proper miner to fucking uruguay. you don't even have the power for it there.
fromdeedbot: its actually kind of strange actually talking to guys here lol
fromdeedbot: ty i ahve been reading them off and on for a few months
mircea_popescu: fromdeedbot, you can just read the logs you know.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, different kind of compute. there's two kinds, bitcoinate is the other one.
asciilifeform: at some point folx will start to feel cramped.
asciilifeform: upstack re possible hundreds of new boxes -- gotta remember that the bw pipe is not made of rubber
ben_vulpes: heh i actually have this usb thinger sitting unused i got as a wedding present forever and a day ago
asciilifeform: tho if we had a miner, it'd be tempting item to install while there's still mains current capacity left over that is already being paid for. tho of course nobody has a miner, not for many years.
asciilifeform: ( or for that matter without subscription, anybody can get it from above link and make own to try with )
ben_vulpes: yeah but gimme a break, none of the shitcoins are going to work on anything but ubuntu and with a gui
asciilifeform: they dun need to magick the gentoo from 0 tho
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for about 100bux you can try it yourself, using http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and a home rockchip.
asciilifeform: usb3 is moar than adequate.
ben_vulpes: aok then wow marvelous
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the only thing preventing trb on the existing pilotplant rockchippen is the small disk.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: huh i was laboring under the impression that it had unforgivably bad io or something
asciilifeform: far better, for instance, than my node 'zoolag', specwise
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: RC will trbate, if you give it large disk
ben_vulpes: not because i want to pack trbs in but because it is *the* litmus test of compute: "will it bitcoinate?"
asciilifeform: also for compact n-port switches ( the popular ones, are stupidly large physically, and eat away precious space inside the enclosure )
ben_vulpes: look also for boards that'll trbate
asciilifeform: i'm also on the lookout for even smaller arm boards ( found 1 , but the specs do not stand up to bang-per-buck comparison with RC )
ben_vulpes: so five bucks! for the tap
ben_vulpes: what it costs to bolt the chassis together i mean
asciilifeform: shouldn't take 4evah to assemble tho. 1 weekend, i picture, per.
asciilifeform: forget time, i dun get paid for time.
ben_vulpes: yeah i know the costs for sticks and rockchippen; i wanna know chassis, your time, stuff like cabling
asciilifeform: in iron strictly. add to this, spare sticks.
mircea_popescu: by which time you'll likely have another one.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i can give a floor. a rc is about 100bux, with the usbstick. chassis, let's say 400. beefy 5v ps : 200. cabling, negligible, but for pessimism say 100.