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rdponticelli: I don't even use to look at orders books of puts of too high a strike
smickles: kakobrekla: maybe it was >1, but was lowered to 1 afterthe bad news
smickles: rdponticelli: the 269 left on http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T
smickles: heh, rdponticelli i just wanted you (well, i suppose it was you now) to buy some of my puts :p
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user pirateat40: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 22 via 19 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=pirateat40
rdponticelli: And, yes, the time value is why I tend to buy put of as low as a strike as possible
rdponticelli: lol, thanks for analizing so deeply my little trade, smickles and mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: always the time value of an option will be a larger part of its total value the closer the strike is to current price
smickles: is that not a better deal on the 14?
mircea_popescu: then you substract premium from that
mircea_popescu: is then-value of puts
mircea_popescu: strike - thenprice / thenprice
mircea_popescu: at the price you propose there's a 0.02xx btc profit
smickles: the calc i did isn't the break even point?
mircea_popescu: nah that's not correct.
smickles: aw, c'mon <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.10637201 = 1.0637 BTC [+], the p140t is a better deal, i'm sure
Diablo-D3: dub is a member of the GOP?
Diablo-D3: [06:20:52] <dub> theres quite enough chronic masturbation in my life already
Doffx: I called the Sesame Street police, I have a feeling Big Bird and the crew will have just about the same effectiveness in the matter.
chmod755: dub, feel free to call the bitcoin police :p
gribble: Tue Oct 09 22:06:14 2012 UTC | 9:06am Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
dub: re: nefario, has anyone called the Bitcoin Police?
jcpham: I don't remember now who told me
jcpham: over there.
jcpham: i'll talk with the rumor people then
jcpham: I thought you were satoshi nakamoto
dub: I can tell by the writing style and having seen quite a few satohsis in my time
jcpham: rumor has it that chmod755 is satoshi
gribble: Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=phantomcircuit
gribble: You rated user phantomcircuit on Sat Jul 14 10:35:46 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
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mircea_popescu: im satisfied that they stole it.
rdponticelli: And suddenly, that
rdponticelli: They had delayed so much the process...
rdponticelli: It was after they emptied the mtgox account
mircea_popescu: i only slapped him when he came in a week ago to "vouch" for scamfarion.
rdponticelli: I've been meaner than you...
gribble: You rated user genjix on Sat Jul 14 10:35:57 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
gribble: You rated user genjix on Fri Sep 28 02:51:20 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: there's that entire bitcoinica mess to be cleared..
mircea_popescu: far as i'm concerned they're tagged.
rdponticelli: They'll have to try harder...
mircea_popescu: well atm neither is theymos, so.
rdponticelli: BTW: Patrick, Amir and Donald aren't tagged, right?
mircea_popescu: what exactly anyone would have to be thinking to deal with any of them in the future is beyond my mere human comprehension.
mircea_popescu: now they got like 8k or so here, btc is about 12.5
mircea_popescu: they got like 30k or so bitcoin there, right ? btc was about 5 ?
mircea_popescu: whether it comes from bitcoinica user funds, glbse user funds or w/e else, it's the rake,.
mircea_popescu: they need about 100k usd a year to keep going.
mircea_popescu: at least we can estimate the expenses of taaki, strateman and the rest of the scammergroup
rdponticelli: The tickets to pirate's island must be expensive...
mircea_popescu: and that faces serious problems because glbse never used gpg keys. and so...
mircea_popescu: someone was asking me about gsdpt earlier too. sad fact of the matter is, w/o actual shareholder lists there's jackshit anyone can do.
rdponticelli: But you would be asking nefario to stop counting coins to do something else entirely related...
jurov: dunno why they're waiting
jurov: today i asked deadterra about GSDPT but he got no information from glbse at all... and that one can be solved without moving any bitcoins
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1260129#msg1260129 i see this is going admirably well...
kakobrekla: i come from a time and place where one got +b for not reading it
rdponticelli: kakobrekla: Nobody looks at the friggin topic...
kakobrekla: its in the friggin topic.
dub: oh wait, theres that cryptostocks one
dub: its THE bitcoin securities exchange dont you know
kakobrekla: Ukto depends what you are displaying then
mircea_popescu: TooTnBooT so were you saying you were going to prove that any asset in glbse is better than mpex stuff or what ?
Ukto: yeah, i am just talking display purposes
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he's thinking in booktaking terms, but you're right its irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: wd on that score lol
mircea_popescu: Ukto it takes the price oflast sale going under the price of prev last sale
Ukto: i jsut figured that a sale, would be aimed down
mircea_popescu: TooTnBooT how's that worked out for you ?
Ukto: so it takes 2 sell's work to declare a down?
mircea_popescu: its up from last trade, so +
Ukto: cause in theory it was a downward aimed sell
Ukto: in a system.. if last trade was a buy at say.. 1.5... and there is a sell at 1.75 that goes through, even though the price is higher than the last trade, woudl you mark that as an up or down for last trade?
dub: oh hey, pirate is paying back this weekend
mircea_popescu: i guess if he never sold anything and mined a majority of those first 20k blocks he could have 1mn.
mircea_popescu: at the time mining became really a public endeavour block count was ~20k. that'd be one million.
TooTnBooT: So possibly when he decided to legitimately acknowledge being a Bitcoin developer, he wanted to separate the fact that he holds millions in BTC?
TooTnBooT: mircea_popescu - Who do you think he means?
mircea_popescu: but through this brilliant addition to the folk culture. MILK IS A SCAMMER!
mircea_popescu: usagi will now forever live in this community, not through his dubious gender identity or horrible business practice,
mircea_popescu: took me a moment that 1
kakobrekla: fine, ill advertise smpake and put bit4x banner on top of the page.
kakobrekla: moody said its ok to advertise smpake but not bit4x.
mircea_popescu: dub you prolly recall it from earlier this year, she was using it on forum
dub: where is the new MPOE-PR avatar from?
knotwork: not as good a job as pirate maybe though
knotwork: Seems Theymos might be doing a decent job of teaching people to trust no-one
mircea_popescu: then they offer 600 btc bidwall at 12.1, ie, 30 cents over price.
jurov: hehe i'm up too... expect update in few days
kakobrekla: bad times for btc
kakobrekla: but thats it.
jurov: good this isn't btctalk.. kakobreklad would end up in sorry place like rapeghost
jurov: <kakobrekla> bitstamp is scam... why? i was thinking of using it someday
jcpham: google knows things.
mircea_popescu: its true.
mircea_popescu: (with tht link)
mircea_popescu: im blogging this
jcpham: please update your thread with that link
jcpham: maybe you've seen this
rdponticelli: Well, I have the list of my transactions, I've downloaded the csv minutes before the closing up