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mircea_popescu: well yeah, most governments haven't.
jurov: don't fart near open fire
BingoBoingo: Imma be lucky if my farts don't kill me before I wake up tomorrow afternoon
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Like staking sports betting, Similar to how poker is staked. The challenge is doing it in a way that the staked party can't fake the results into an honest looking loss.
ozbot: Don't panic, but that public Wi-Fi is coming from ... inside your house - TwinCities.com
mircea_popescu: at which point the chick points out that there's only seven midgets and you point out that she shouldn't be making that kind of noise.
asciilifeform: idk, i wasn't there - but it was either tried to no result, or not attempted for good reason, i'd bet.
mircea_popescu: why didn't they make the straight shooter guy into a twink then
mircea_popescu: he doesn't want to. cause admitting how fucking stupid he is would burn.
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why locklin doesn't get bitcoin.
ThickAsThieves: "You a female; I'm a dude. I'm not learning nothing from you. I just want to see you. So whatever you're talking about, I probably don't really care. I wanna just look at you."
mircea_popescu: i mean a) it clearly labels you as a scammer, as only they do it ; b) it can't possibly give roi, even as a scammer ; c) srsly.
mircea_popescu: perhaps it doesn't have as much to do with the environment as one'd think
ThickAsThieves: burn your bra, but don't touch that flag
mircea_popescu: you don't pee on the mains, you plug stuff in.
ThickAsThieves: i think some people don;t realize corruption has a broader definition than "paid off"
asciilifeform: which is why there isn't really a market
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: say, a U Chicago grad can do no economically productive work at all but still be paid to use Instagram? Let me be explicit: my question is not should we do this, my question is that since this is precisely what's happening already, is it sustainable? What is the cost? I don't have to run the numbers, someone already has: it's $150/mo for a college grads, i.e. the price of food stamps. Other correct responses would
mircea_popescu: well... fuck. why didn't i thinl of that.
ThickAsThieves: so basically you can't win
mircea_popescu: that you WEREN'T
mircea_popescu: the guy can't evaluate if you were in fact harming no-one
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo perhaps. what if he doesn't ?
mircea_popescu: he doesn't carry weight in this discussion
asciilifeform: because it sure as fuck ain't 'authority'
ThickAsThieves: my wife thinks a drive too slow, except when i don't see nonsensical speed signs
mircea_popescu: which is why sane people (ie, germans) don't have upper limits,
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, that reasoning doesn't work in a town (because if you go fast enough whether you run into someone or not becomes a matter of luck), but it does make sense of highways
decimation: "A poll by the General Social Survey indicates that about 1/3 of Americans trust each other. This is a big step downward from a 1972 survey that indicated that about ½ of Americans trust each other. Around 2/3rds say that ?you can?t be too careful? dealing with others. "
mircea_popescu: just, the vc circus hasn't yet found out, because we don't finance the circus.
ninjashogun: so I didn't realize how much money is sloshing around the bitcoin ecosystem. Question: do you think with WoT this ecosystem (e.g. this channel, etc) could substitute for the actual VC market completely?
benkay`: can't imagine that means what the top suggestion from my suggestion machine suggests it means
mircea_popescu: well, that i don't. however, i do understand quite well when i don't understand something.
mircea_popescu: i don't code, really.
KRS-One: I always thought it was slow, but that isn't really the case. If it runs slow its because someone didn't know what they are doing.
mircea_popescu: the guy has some very specific sexual hangups. it's all centered on rape, can't see violence, can't see submission, he's impacted.
mircea_popescu: you don't marry english grads.
mircea_popescu: elevant as the skin color. Not irrelevant for now, not irrelevant "until the economy improves"-- irrelevant forever. The economy doesn't care about intelligence, at all, it doesn't care what you know, merely what you can produce for it. The only thing the English grad is "qualified" for in this economy is the very things s/he is already doing: coffeehouse agitator, Trader Joe's associate, Apple customer... and spouse
mircea_popescu: When we see a welfare mom we assume she can't find work, but when we see a hipster we become infuriated because we assume he doesn't want to work but could easily do so-- on account of the fact that he can speak well-- that he went to college. But now suddenly we're all shocked: to the economy, the English grad is just as superfluous as the disenfranchised welfare mom in the hood-- the college education is just as irr
mircea_popescu: "magine a large corporate machine mobilized to get you to buy something you don't need at a tremendously inflated cost, complete with advertising, marketing, and branding that says you're not hip if you don't have one, but when you get one you discover it's of poor quality and obsolete in ten months. That's a BA.
moiety: i don't see the site as a chumpatron, after listening. i just like to make things work is all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, and freshmen don't want to burn ?
mircea_popescu: i mean there's no requirement that the chump don't enjoy it
moiety: BingoBoingo: there's a difference. you don't always get dinner at the restaurant you work in
benkay`: i don't hate it - it's just another dumblang
mircea_popescu: tbh : i don't actually hate java,
asciilifeform: horse gets chopped in half and doesn't notice
mircea_popescu: i don't hate them as a brazilian either.
ninjashogun: just saw romance-language like words that I didn't understand on your blog. (I do speak some French, Italian, Spanish so knew it wasn't those)
ninjashogun: I didn't realize you're Romanian either. I thought you were Brazilian :) (I don't speak either portuguese or Romanian)
ninjashogun: I guess basically I wasn't taking these projects as "seriously" as other parts of the startup ecosystem. But perhaps it's true that "silicon valley has a lot to learn from bitcoin"
ninjashogun: I haven't finished reading it, no.
mircea_popescu: i guess you didn't read BingoBoingo's other article
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, sorry, I don't know the details. I just see that you're active on IRC and was just going by how you talk and participate. You also have a lot of time here.
ninjashogun: For example I thought mirceau completely bootstrapped his thing, had no investors of any kind, since he doesn't deal with them the way startups I've seen do.
benkay`: ninjashogun weren't you just derping about not having time to derp in irc?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You mean you don't run that bot on your nick?
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun sheep have no privacy, nor crabs nor birds. privacy is a construct of the human mind, and it is built upon identity. which you don't currently have.
moiety: mircea_popescu: he doesn't need a country, he needs to advise the world: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/everyone_goes_crazy_in_differe.html
asciilifeform: PARRY: A bookie didn't pay me off once.
mircea_popescu: wasn't it the schizzo ?
Namworld: the last part wasn't said.
nubbins`: they don't even make pennies anymore. if you cashed that at a bank, you wouldn't get anything.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i don't have any
ninjashogun: don't peek, moiety :)
asciilifeform: don't let the capital letters fool you - there is nothing peculiar about the basic
mircea_popescu: didn't mike_c translate it to js just to pester me ?
moiety: no i haven't attempted it
ninjashogun: sorry I don't know how to read "assbot"
asciilifeform: actually i don't think anyone here is particularly fond of spammers and charlatans
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo - trust models can't be programmatic, or they will be games. For example someone will set up $10K just to spend on interest as they do hundreds of transactions with trusted members over a year - the only goal being to be given a $200K transaction that they then walk off with. You can't build trust programmatically.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: People don't have a "WoT score" they have personalize networks. The score is the least relevant part of a WoT
ninjashogun: I don't need 'any size loan' and we could look at the budget breakdown together as well - I would expect it to be based on real world identities and paperwork, not IRC.
nubbins`: ninjashogun: don't worry about it, i was kidding anyway. go fuck yourself
mircea_popescu: but if you gave it up suddenly the post office wouldn't be floundering anymore.
BingoBoingo: Unfortunately he didn't anticipate mircea_popescu's preference whereby wives be naked
mircea_popescu: you have to be incredibly fucking retarded to go "hey guise, i don't give a shit about you bye"
mircea_popescu: "Feb 25 08:13:06 <ninjashogun>guys I've received some suggestions to "lurk" and "read logs" here, which I wouldn't really have time to do. It was nice meeting you all though and I may be back as the project progresses. Overall I don't think I will be spending a ton of time building WoT, advisors, etc - as I have real-world references for the moment that I would expect anyone to consutl."
pLambert: I don't understand, why would you take a personal loan to finance your business instead of having your business get the loan it needs?
mircea_popescu: you don't ask anything.
ninjashogun: to myself, as a personal loan. I would like to do it this way because the company has become much more valuable, has assigned IP assets, etc. It doesn't make sense to raise a small amount of company by the company.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, well, considering that the startup has already been financed to an extent, your statement is false. Something can't be unfinanceable if it has been financed.
asciilifeform: is the intended implication that... you don't intend to?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I don't think a bank loan can be used to finance what I'm doing. If it could there would be no need for angels in the world.
ninjashogun: last week or w/e I also connected with people. Didn't find the right match. Different people could be in here now.
asciilifeform: let me guess. couldn't get a government-approved architect to sign off on it
asciilifeform: in anglo world, land isn't really owned, just borrowed from the crown - like in ussr.
moiety: asciilifeform: there was a couple here built an amazing house and they had to tear it down becauseit didn't qualify
moiety: mircea_popescu: exactly! discovering containers aren't really 'up' though now XD
moiety: asciilifeform: couldn't you sort of paint the inside iof it with cement?
moiety: i bet they don't look like that mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: but you can't move gfs in containers.
benkay`: china ships 'em over and then doesn't want them back.
benkay`: BitcoinPropagand: austerity has neat type design, i just don't care about austerity at all.
mircea_popescu: !t m s.bbet
benkay`: didn't you just pay to less than the nominal float?
mircea_popescu: as mpex won't let you pay for less than the records show, and you don't want to pay for more.
mircea_popescu: we just don't use the same maths as the rest of you