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mircea_popescu: this is high arcana.
mircea_popescu: re the soros book : it's not terrible, there's a certain political bent to it but i expect you're immune. like how human doesn't catch most rat viral strains.
mircea_popescu: a decade ago this shit used to be a bad joke at best. now it's all the maga that's left.
mircea_popescu: fucking drop dead already, bollywood's better by now.
mircea_popescu: the same fucking BEIGE. everything gotta be beige, that's how you know it's the future. the same inept fucking "actors", the same literotica-level scripts, the same blergh.
mircea_popescu tried to watch "her", which supposedly is a movie. it is not. it's a fucking "movie 2.0". it's like these contemptible imbeciles agreed everything in cinema must have rounded corners now. the same inept muzak, a dude on a cello or a piano or a single instrument going SINGLENOTE SINGLENOTE SINGLENOTE SINGLENOTE SINGLENOTE. this is now music.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://cascadianhacker.com/rogue-one#comment-144 << sadly i have nfi who that is.
mircea_popescu: ah finest. i read first soz.
mircea_popescu: "why didn;t they do it sooner!" "cuz they didn't feel like it!" "but why did they do it at all!" "cuz they felt like it!"
mircea_popescu: london sewer was not by any means first in world ; but how do you distinguish between the l1 of london building sewer and ben_vulpes making me slut bot ?
mircea_popescu: yes. but i think it's very informative to examine it from angles.
mircea_popescu: as good a statement as any re why moore law can't ever produce ai.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-13#1602276 << lol. they're FACTORIAL not exponential. plox to be serious here, no exp can match this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems dubious.
mircea_popescu: the price for its light is a definite limit in time ; it will eventually grow hot.
mircea_popescu: and depends how you define "paid for", sun may also be.
mircea_popescu: fucking is paid for.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean why. because you want to exclude items that match it.
mircea_popescu: well... you will need a new definition then
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact, whether mp alone is repsonsible for half us live births this year, like it works in africa / oceania ; or not -- live births there will be.
mircea_popescu: yet somehow THIS particular public good is never too problematic
mircea_popescu: take fucking. the women are pregnant for all, irrespective how many fuck them.
mircea_popescu: which brings the problem back home : most of the problems you discuss have a huge language externality.
mircea_popescu: in the absence of a forum, it's the only workable way.
mircea_popescu: more or less yea
mircea_popescu: soon enough, 1024 countries of manageable size.
mircea_popescu would pay to see in practice the equivalent of salic electoral law, considering how lulzily salic inheritance worked irl. enough of this angevin bs. you vote in electiosn, then each side gets half the country. and so going each 4 years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? split up.
mircea_popescu: (i beg forgiveness if i just snap yoru words to classical discourse on the topic, it's for the greater good)
mircea_popescu: yes, but what does it mean "it's not practical to withhold" ?
mircea_popescu: which is somewhat counterintuitive. so i was examining if you're going to stick with the definition or redefine in face of it.
mircea_popescu: yes, except the rabid weasel does not seem to WANT this public good.
mircea_popescu: going to all that trouble etc.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking more in the lines of, shooting obama. puts him out of his misery of pretending like he's a person.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was just observing shooting is a public good by your definition. not practical to keep it from freeloaders, still has a cost.
mircea_popescu looks at kresty prison overhead pic, notices that building set on its right is painted in international color of courthouse. mmkay.
mircea_popescu: no, in the sense it's impractical to not shoot them, but still the bullet is produced.
mircea_popescu: ie, bullets ?
mircea_popescu: ok so then. stop using strings for concepts. what do you mean by "public good" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform used to be written on medicine bottles. back before medicine became rationalized.
mircea_popescu: this is also how banking works, "you can have all the money you don't need you could wish -- but don't ask for money when you need it!"
mircea_popescu: (qs i will remind stands for quantum sufficit, or else satiem. satiem is the word that gave sated. the presumption here, etymologically-amusing as it is, is that something can be qs only if there's no "black hole" of appetite. mmkay.)
mircea_popescu: yes. nothing can be qs, not in this world, which is why your definition of "public good" is not a definition.
mircea_popescu: ie, not qs.
mircea_popescu: "if it looks like it's running out, we'll do something about it."
mircea_popescu: this is a fiction, which may be convenient for personal reasons. but nothing is like this. note above : we have an infinity of chatlines, literally, avaailable each day. nevertheless, the bot is vaguely constrained.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'available ad libitum to those within the walls' << this means there's an infinite supply.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when i had you define "public good" you said "endlessly abundant item". this is nonsense, nothing is endlessly abundant.
mircea_popescu: there are known from history many numerous models of cities.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me that any engineering issues are in fact involved. all i see are purely psychogenic issues improperly welded to the foregoing. you don't need nor can have any meaningful implementation of "public servicves", not ever. getting oneself to believe the contrary is a strange exercise in contorsionism
mircea_popescu: how's this relate to imperial vs republican big city ?
mircea_popescu: certainly not.
mircea_popescu: go right ahead.
mircea_popescu: but the teachers were still petrified.
mircea_popescu: i showed up for ~40% of classes. which was about the most either me or the system could carry.
mircea_popescu: you laugh ben_vulpes , but consider that a 15yo mp, much more imperious, much less sexually and otherwise pacified, had to go to school. PUBLIC school.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: "weds 14:00 to 16:00, phf's lisp class".
mircea_popescu: phf if you feel like it, you can do a weekly lisp class by appointment, look in the log when there's usually holes and intersect with your schedule and there you go.
mircea_popescu: didja have fun ?
mircea_popescu: lol poor vulpes.
mircea_popescu: call it good.
mircea_popescu: ((+ 2 2))
mircea_popescu: ! (+ 2 2)
mircea_popescu: !(+ 2 2)
mircea_popescu: (+ 2 2)
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: both wanting a clean channel and wanting a repl bot are legitimate wants, neither necessarily has to yield to the other, we see how it goeth.
mircea_popescu: so far mostly trying to tease out practical utility.
mircea_popescu: phf if usage goes wai up we'll figure something out.
mircea_popescu: nah, stick to !
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the idea is for this to be a toy-level learn-lisp item ; can't add a "AND IF YOU DO ARCANE THING YOU DIE" coda.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes iffy, too promisetronic will cause a bunch of hurt fingers.
mircea_popescu: (+ 1 "no good")
mircea_popescu: i guess can have !( for it and you wipe ! ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't want her to do anything specifically, but she also can't answer to a single-open-parens control sequence
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt eat http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/jO4Hu/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can it only retort if its name is on the line ? otherwise this will become problematic
mircea_popescu: aw fuck
mircea_popescu: carbon sulfide, which is carcinogenic.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no good chem solution for your problem as it is.
mircea_popescu: WAY better than giving yourself contact dermatitis.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just wait. your skin exfoliates naturally, they will come off.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: though it prolly should huh.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: could set the footnote to arbitrary anything, but meh. and i see no good way out of the comment thing, because it ~is~ stuck parsing the comment.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform comments don't allow < semantically because it's the start of a html tag ; articles have problems parsing (( and )) because it's footnote convention
mircea_popescu: fixed footnote. lisp dun mix well with the footnote system
mircea_popescu: sluts gonna slut.
mircea_popescu: no good ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was thinking she gets upt in half hour intervals
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : ben_vulpes would you join candi here and set everyone in l1 to its eat list ? i deem you've satisfied contractual obligations re support ; if you'll be kind enough to bring it back within a day or two should it get knocked off that's entirely fine by my lights. and everyone else : have fun with the lisp repl, but don't abuse.
mircea_popescu: i have a solution for that, too! http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/
mircea_popescu: ironically, i'd make the auto tax 100x yearly average income.
mircea_popescu: naggum evidently intends restrictions as to shape AND USAGE. this you don't see because you opt to, but in his world, as constructed from his words, it is legitimate for someone to come and tell you "this isn't a proper use of the public service", and it is illegitimate for you to retort "tough"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform define "public service" if you will ?
mircea_popescu: but in any case there's absolutely no progre monopoly on civilisation. on the contrary.