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asciilifeform: if tomorrow mircea_popescu orders 'boot me up pc in asm into sumthing i can send packets from' it'll be in a forth.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 14:27:33 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spent ~decade e.g. knowing about ada but avoiding cuz 'dun like'. it was stupid.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:04:05 mircea_popescu: there's further implications ; but, to fit the point back to narrow interest : saying the tools are already there is not even stupid, it's entirely besides the point. the only effectual question is, "has the lowest possible P in theory been actually realised in practice".
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu knows full well, nuffin is 'simple' on pc. but there's degrees of bulk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spent ~decade e.g. knowing about ada but avoiding cuz 'dun like'. it was stupid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol 1994
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i aint about to try to persuade mircea_popescu to buy 1e6 'greenarray' or moor's cad etc. but i'm ~satisfied that it ~exists~ and worx as described, atm.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 13:01:50 mircea_popescu: isp will throw fit if you're even within 1% of 1% of this theoretical maximum, rated capacity.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 13:01:29 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934821 << not irl. large packet flow is, you'll perhaps discover, one of the most "oversold" ie fraudulently misrepresented items in nature. much like the city comes put faucets into yur house but you can't run them 24/7, except ^8.
asciilifeform: as described'. but cannot put the src in mircea_popescu's nose to prove point.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: half of this is fair cut. moor does in fact sell chip ( and incidentally comes, unlike ~errything else on market, with full datashit ). but afaik the full src of the cad system was not published, to date. ( it's how he eats. ) so comes down to matter of heuristic, 'does exist, or is charlatan ?' based on d00d's work to date, and the published material re 'greenarray' product on sale, i'm inclined to say 'exists, worx
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:22:48 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934319 << not fucking famously. let me show you how famously works, in reality. "mircea popescu had, famously, naked bitches at his beck and call". that's ~famous~.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 12:05:12 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934661 >> e.g. http://www.greenarraychips.com/ . or the fact that his book was translated and printed in run of 1e6 even in sovok. but i expect 'not famous enuff' to mircea_popescu , cuz aint in his personal kit ? or wat.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:47:46 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934395 << it always was, dood. just because people don't customarily engage in what he's exactly right to call sinful, by reason of being so premature as to necessarily be doomed to stating idiocy,
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934699 << in the orig. '17 thread re 'make cpu', mircea_popescu made the observation 'the sticker prices have 3 or 4 extra zeros on'em', i.e. pointless to even ask the q before we have penetration into the asian snakepits where iron is actually baked. without such, we're stuck looking at the chump ratecards.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:39:00 mircea_popescu: b) SELL IT to them. forcibly. i do mean, at the point of the sword, rape them with it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:30:48 mircea_popescu: market schmarket, markets are created not identified.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:36:48 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934382 << practical network rates are more in the 1k/s or threabouts, certainly if sustained. 2*18 is not seen even in dedicated interchanges.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:34:07 mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:30:09 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934326 << inexplicably remains that you don't.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:26:50 mircea_popescu: chuck moore can be famous when he meets the bar to existence. when you can fucking LINK to the god damned "famous" things.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934661 >> e.g. http://www.greenarraychips.com/ . or the fact that his book was translated and printed in run of 1e6 even in sovok. but i expect 'not famous enuff' to mircea_popescu , cuz aint in his personal kit ? or wat.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:18:44 mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care if they become things or not -- but i'd much rather not be asked to foot the bill for their becoming. let them do the work themfuckingselves, which is why i say : piggybacking even more stupid shit atop a tower of stupid shit we're allegedly trying to clean up is... well ? it's stupid!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:17:58 mircea_popescu: forth is not a thing. lisp is not a thing. on in this vein.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:12:55 mircea_popescu: and just so, "great lang" that does nothing IS nothing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:10:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934318 << nevermind "martian". the table ante for this discussion is "perfectly functioning webserver with two decades history of the same". if it dun have that, it's not a fucking thing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 06:48:09 mircea_popescu: should i put a copy up somewhere so "oh, same as python" wank can continue on actual basis ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:14:04 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934312 << how did you counht ? to reiterate the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934257 point.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:51:59 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934288 << you're not thinking this through. what's a page, <100kb ? what's the daily output, 100 of these ? you're comitting to 10mb / day thereby ? ie a hour's blockchain ? this too much to ask for the republic ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:50:22 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934268 << ok, so did you also inherit the code/domain etc ? or should i rush through some replacements, eg spyked's imgpaster ? or what here ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:04:22 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934252 << lol what is this, fallout the rl game ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:01:04 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934257 << there's a lot of cvasi-effort/idle pullulation in the wanna-be cloud sharply directed at "being mp on the cheap". he figures he'll be cool if he says that, which is why he does.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934474 << but, lol, actual mircea_popescu never says anyffin of the kind -- always gives concrete barf when finds bug. so why then.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:28:50 mircea_popescu: anyway, biosacks only need names if they're about to log here. both hanbot an' nicoleci are on, and so far what you lot wanna use them for is rather punching bags, from experience, so i don't see the urgency in naming anyone else.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934457 << in orig q i was thinking 'does this personage correspond to a wot key', prolly oughta have said concretely. ( if mircea_popescu had revealed the chix's human name, this would not have meant anyffin to asciilifeform et al )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 00:55:08 mircea_popescu: call that P. meanwhile output, or productivity, is expressed as a different scalar, call it W.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-03 12:27:29 mircea_popescu: in other news, mp's own bash grenadiers regiment suggests an ad interim solution for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891951 in the shape of ls | grep ^x..$' | while read line; do curl -Ls -o /dev/null -w %{url_effective} -X POST -F "pastebox=@$line" http://p.bvulpes.com -w %{url_effective}; done
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:50:22 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934268 << ok, so did you also inherit the code/domain etc ? or should i rush through some replacements, eg spyked's imgpaster ? or what here ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 13:08:32 asciilifeform: meanwhile in vintage oddball spam via mircea_popescu's link.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:24:56 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931863 << keks, so what, i been talking of harems &c for a decade+, yet peeps been just assuming i'm fantasizing or something ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:23:01 asciilifeform: will comment on mircea_popescu's other observations when wakes up.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:59:41 mircea_popescu: still, this is definitely a vulnerable / sore spot in the imperial "clothing for nude emperors" pile.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:50:36 mircea_popescu: the idea is to fuck them up, not to politely ignore them.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: the uk has a boatload of various tests and things; not fully aligned (from my current knowledge of the domain, admiteddly limited)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 00:25:44 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz : us citizen notable enough for ro.wikipedia but "unknown" by en.wikipedia
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: there are 2 aspects: 1. whether you want to apply for bezzle 2. whether you want "recognised status"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:33:10 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, his idea might be good, actually. what's the uk requirements for starting a private college ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:48:16 asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu surveyed, and found that it was some laffably small #
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:45:45 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934254 << i think there's so much shame / self-loathing necessarily (and, for that matter, correctly) naturally associated by the mind with leaving here, i dinf it unsurprising dudes leave quietly.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:56:19 asciilifeform: trinque: i went to look at what is php made from ( given all the prodding by mircea_popescu ) and seems to weigh at least as much as the python toolchain
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
auctionbot: Buy order # 1057 created by mircea_popescu: item as described in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934605 and following. Opening: 100mn ecu Ending: 2019-09-12 20:26:41.479316 UTC (143 hours)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cursed bulding. retarded past occupants as per: "La propiedad estuvo alquilada hasta el 2016 por el Banco IDRC (International Divelopment Reserch Center) entidad Canadiense que hizo todas las prestaciones para los niveles de calidad que este tipo de empresa necesita, tanto a nivel de seguridad como de comodidades para trabajar, respetando el Patrimonio Histórico de la casa principal."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have only Home Depot knowlede of how buildings age which overlaps poorly with the local stock of buildings here
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I'll have to look into it properly and come back
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: myeah; I'd rather not do it; my q is whether anyone sees any reason it would be worth it and apparently the answer is no (phew, I'm glad it is no, even)
snsabot: mircea_popescu: time since my last reconnect : 21d 17h 30m
diana_coman: morning mircea_popescu
asciilifeform will comment on mircea_popescu's other observations when wakes up.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:48:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934227 << i propose we give it a rest for nao, and upgrade / improve later if need to on basis of experience.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ctcpism
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 15:52:16 asciilifeform: i'ma see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
snsabot: Logged on 2016-11-07 11:53:31 mircea_popescu: recall the "where are the rembrandts then" argument ? the us fails to produce a philosopher worth the mention every other decade ; athens managed that much on 1/1000th the population.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu surveyed, and found that it was some laffably small #
trinque: I have been enamored of this idea since the first mircea_popescu and asciilifeform threads on same.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu called this 'use 50cal rifle as fishing pole'
asciilifeform: trinque: i went to look at what is php made from ( given all the prodding by mircea_popescu ) and seems to weigh at least as much as the python toolchain
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 12:28:25 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you remember by any chance *where* did you say explicitly that one's less by precisely their investment/time outside the republic?
asciilifeform: i'ma see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
asciilifeform: lobbes , mircea_popescu , et al ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i 1st read, thought 'substance abuse'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these here swamp dwellings are built sorta like those huts in vietnam. there's a concrete plinth, and ~1m columns, on these -- the floor.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just entering into the record the US insanity where residential spaces are never standard.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we weren't even in hruscheba, but in the 19th-c-converted-to-kommunalka . still 100% square walls.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in vintage oddball spam via mircea_popescu's link.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'ikea' is mega-bestselling here. but, as you might expect, they sell such things as they can get away with to the locals, who can't tell actual wood from glue-an'-dust
diana_coman: as mircea_popescu really: it's called library or maybe "study room" lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: illuminate plox ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:50:37 mircea_popescu: (this, also, before we get into "Hunchentoot talks with its front-end or with the client over TCP/IP sockets and optionally uses multiprocessing to handle several requests at the same time. Therefore, it cannot be implemented completely in portable Common Lisp. It currently works with LispWorks and all Lisps which are supported by the compatibility layers usocket and Bordeaux Threads." discussions.)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:37:14 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934000 << i've yet to see lisp actually do anything useful, so this'd be a quindecennial first.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:47:33 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934003 << i don't know if didactic's the word, rather evaluatory. we want to know what exact dragons lay there, in the general, and you declared yourself interested in lisp, so it seemed a very natural fit ; then you self-selected the task and i didnt have any objectiosn, for these reasons.\
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:57:23 mircea_popescu: i really can't atm tell the difference between gcc-in-php and hutchentoote, myself. but i am a sluggish intellect, takes me a while.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 07:01:51 mircea_popescu: (as an aside, leaving be the situation where this is entirely obscure arcana, top results on "hutchentoot" searches include 2015 tmsr logs, consider http://compgroups.net/comp.lang.lisp/scripting-in-cl-please-comment/239090 as a fine illustration, the moneyshot being macro index,pager <F7> " <enter-command> set pipe_decode=yes<enter> <enter-command> set my_wait_key=\$wait_key wait_key=no<enter> <pipe-message>/h
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:08:22 mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing the hutch story is very useful.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:09:18 mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly to try and marry 1 to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:52:48 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934000 << i've yet to see lisp actually do anything useful, so this'd be a quindecennial first.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:51:30 mircea_popescu: if you never put the work in to evaluate hutch, there'd never have been any basis for [][conclusions] << my comment re "this isn't lisp" should have gone in there, but i can't fucking find it because on your blog has no recent posts nor in the logsearch because thetarp hutch return nothing becuase your blog doesn't have title-urls.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:31:19 mircea_popescu: so technically, you'd have to clean up your articles, so they're actual articles before they can be put in the db ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:08:22 mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing the hutch story is very useful.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:09:18 mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly to try and marry 1 to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:04:58 mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post to MP-WP (plus fixing the links) would take a yet-to-be-determined amount of time" << why is this to be a pain ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 20:07:40 mircea_popescu: what people don't realise is just HOW unlinear the returns are.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:08:22 mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing the hutch story is very useful.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:09:18 mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly to try and marry 1 to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.