cazalla: they never seem to forget the inclusion of token african kid with mobile
kakobrekla: >We are migrating the website to a new and improved and more dynamic site. Please excuse any broken links or choppy pages as we work!
kakobrekla: like buttstamp "we just got hacked, we dont know where hour heads are so we refreshed our webpage while you wait."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha thanks. gonna try redoing this for the 7th or so time
mircea_popescu: clearsigned, armored body ; attachment 1, text. attachment 1 detached signature, armored in ; nothing whatsoever out. god damned it...
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mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> >We are migrating the website to a new and improved and more dynamic site. Please excuse any broken links or choppy pages as we work! <<< one wonders wtf the progre thinks progress actually is. "new improved more dynamic" = "broken". so whydja want it ?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "Deniss Calovskis, 30, pleaded guilty in federal court in Manhattan to conspiring to commit computer intrusion, admitting that he had been hired to write some of the computer code that made the so-called Gozi virus so effective."
pete_dushenski: "Under a plea agreement, Calovskis, who has been in U.S. custody since his extradition, agreed not to appeal any sentence of two years in prison or less." << bizarro condition for a plea bargain
mircea_popescu: about as unenforceable in a sane justice system as "employee agrees not to sue employer for any reason" employment contracts in california, but hey.
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 00:45:55; mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> >We are migrating the website to a new and improved and more dynamic site. Please excuse any broken links or choppy pages as we work! <<< one wonders wtf the progre thinks progress actually is. "new improved more dynamic" = "broken". so whydja want it ?
pete_dushenski: which, incidentally, ties into mp's observation about smartphones being 'tvs in everyone's arse'
pete_dushenski: web 2.0 (non-3d) is broken for usability, but functional for fucking around
pete_dushenski: their whole fukcing website is dumbass mom's giving their 'reviews' of products and idjit gizmodo rejects writing 'how-tos' and 'top 5s'
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35211 @ 0.00072967 = 25.6924 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: why learn anything or do anything when you can just dick around until the cows come home ?
pete_dushenski: of course, behind the scenes, is proctor and gamble, which is to say, that senile old limp-dick from omaha
shinohai: People don't know "what they want"
pete_dushenski: the united states of television : a channel for every star on the flag
shinohai: Glad others find the meaning of life with such simplicity.
pete_dushenski: they're not actually heard, of course, no functional system could handle that much noise, but they are lent a convincing simulacrum of importance
pete_dushenski: shinohai: remember, these 'others' aren't people in the sense that we are
shinohai: I find it rther liberating to know I don't matter and no one gives a shit what I say.
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 00:53:44; pete_dushenski: their whole fukcing website is dumbass mom's giving their 'reviews' of products and idjit gizmodo rejects writing 'how-tos' and 'top 5s'
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cazalla: well, not really, gave me the idea to do.. daddy blogging lol
shinohai: Nearly everyone *wants* to matter in some way, pete_dushenski. I'm not sure I want to matter in the preconceived notions that American culture *wants* you to matter in.
shinohai: I was told I didn't need my physical keyboard either, only a touchscreen. yeah.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: leaving aside 'normal american' notions, how do ~you~ want to matter ? if you don't mind the inquiry
cazalla: pete_dushenski, they're a dime a dozen so i never pursued it further than regging a domain name
pete_dushenski: cazalla: terrible logic and you know it. there's dozens of 'tech/poli/bitcoin newz sites'. none are qntra.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, ok, i'm lazy :)
shinohai: I don't mind the inquiry, sometimes I think perhaps I am too uneducated to even know the answer to that lol/
cazalla: pete_dushenski, can't say the same for the brussel sprouts, aphids made a meal of them all
pete_dushenski: shinohai: well no one's born knowing these things, but there are worse places to learn about the world and yourself than b-a
shinohai: That's why I'm here, so at least I may glean some knowledge in my lifetime.
trinque: asciilifeform | <trinque> maybe becomes a function of the web page viewer for V ? << i am writing one. << cool!
trinque: asciilifeform: deeding detached sigs seems a decent feature in any case
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 21:58:42; mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> the language is the lexicon << this is beyond naive and absolutely never the case.
pete_dushenski: all comments use different proper names (no xxxtina), different ip addresses, different url-shorteners (!), but all use same gmail addy
pete_dushenski: and the comments themselves are exceedingly close to being relevant and don't contain a single outbound link
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trinque: ben_vulpes: nah had a rough week; sleeping in
trinque: see logs re: stolen property
punkman: mircea_popescu: what mail client did you use btw?
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> i didn't realise how pervasive the tidal shit from mummy bloggers were until i began looking up baby related things online << this ironically is the first, and to date the most ample use of language. stupid women spreading their stupid whatever it is while pregnant and nursing.
mircea_popescu: and, much like insane notions of agency as defined legally ("guy spreading his legs is DOING something ; gal eating herself into a bus size is not specifically doing anything"), the quantitative approach favours female dumb.
punkman: squirrelmail ate the last newline in one of my files
punkman: or maybe something wrapped a line wider than 80 chars
mircea_popescu: at this point, i find myself persuaded that email is the wrong thing, knuth was right, it should have died long ago.
mircea_popescu: punkman these are attachments. should go through untouched in ANY manner.
punkman: html form would have worked so much better for turdatron
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and make it take armored encrypted msgs only ?
trinque: asciilifeform: jurov gave me a script to sync a gpg keychain with assbot's list
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more for message integrity than anything
mircea_popescu: in today's lulz : it turns out that bitcoin-qt interface, if presented with a malformed value such as 1,275 btc instead of the 1.275 notation,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is in my mind the new high point of "bitcoin core" power ranger retardation
mircea_popescu: not the fact they kept the wallets around unencrypted for 4 years.
mircea_popescu: gee, i guess all this preoccupation with kids in africa must be pretty fucking novel. they didn't give a shit about africa throughout.
mircea_popescu: residents of northern tenochtitlan need to get over the idea that the "united states of america" matters
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trinque: in my case a deedbot- user would notice the rejected: 1 and complain to me
trinque: most damage it could do is fart out 0.0002 per hour til I wake up :P
trinque: but yeah could happen I guess
trinque: asciilifeform: however, much more relevant to bitcoind dev
mircea_popescu: yep, just tested this. squirrelmail mangles sent attachments. for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea what this is, diff fails over ity
punkman: I didn't find anything in squirrelmail configuration
punkman: entire file as changed must be newlines
trinque: kinda hilarious how everything in OSS starts breaking the moment you have hard requirements
mircea_popescu: the who the fuck line is caps and me holding shift at the same time. consider it double screaming.
pete_dushenski can hear the sweet sounds of keyboards being smashed in a furious rage all the way from arg.
mircea_popescu: to answer your earlier obsevation : i want to be friends with thios schmuck like i want to be friends with dea agent.
mircea_popescu: he wants to be tolerated, better brownnose like his life depends on it.
mircea_popescu: once "the terorrists" get them, they're to be publicised.
mircea_popescu: $ gpg --verify florianweimer.fuckeveryonewhowaseverinvolvedincomputersyouarethereasonthingsuckihopeyougetcanceranddie.asc florianweimer.fuckeveryonewhowaseverinvolvedincomputersyouarethereasonthingsuckihopeyougetcanceranddie
mircea_popescu: gpg: Signature made Fri 04 Sep 2015 11:22:04 PM ART using RSA key ID 2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: gpg: Good signature from "Mircea Popescu (Acest articol are apriori
mircea_popescu: i will not be using the mailing list system in the future.
mircea_popescu: three hours was my total budged interacting with it for this entire year.
☟︎ punkman: (maybe wrong order, first attachment must be clearsigned)
mircea_popescu: that's where the night came in. when i allowed the use of detached sigs.
mircea_popescu: clearsign documents - one file. encrypted documents - one file. that's it.
mircea_popescu: under no circumstances may one item be two files and fuck everything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and now HOW THE FUCK IS THE PAYLOAD A THING
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mircea_popescu: that's why it's one thing. so they protect each other.
mircea_popescu: "the thing that was signed" can not stand on iuts own.
mircea_popescu: at this point in life & time when i am stuck sending an item purporting to be "a payload" on its own, i've already lost.
mircea_popescu: and then any reandom schmuck comes around and herp derp, s/x/y/ because hey, i read it in a coimputing cookbook once
mircea_popescu: you tell me, what the fuck am i supposed to do. i got this thing here, i want it to be so and so. what now.
mircea_popescu: since this was part of an email, my choices are fix it now or forget about it.
mircea_popescu: i was detrimentally relying on our already having shit that works.
mircea_popescu: you had this problem, almost ot the letter, and i confess i thought you were being unreasonable.
mircea_popescu: but honestly, if my choice is between this and nuclear winter im picking nuclear winter right now and everyone can just get a free tan.
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assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 22:30:54; jurov: EATS THE TRAILING NEWLINE
punkman: maybe clearsinged got column wrapped?
mircea_popescu: anyway. email does not belong in civilised society and that's what it is.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 01:26:08; asciilifeform: and folks ask me wtf i mean when i say 'we don't have computers yet'
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 01:33:12; mircea_popescu: jurov yeah srsly, maybe only accept base64'd emails ?
mircea_popescu: what i had in mind with the "accept encrypted only" thing
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 02:05:46; asciilifeform: what, i gotta debug 'squirrelmail' now ?
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 01:32:22; asciilifeform: possibly these will have to travel armoured and rsa'd to turdatron's pubkey
mircea_popescu: the difference being that the limits to my activit yare my own discretion.
punkman: if you regularly email signed things, gotta wonder how many arrive mutilated and are never checked
mircea_popescu: well no cause i can see the sigs no longer verify/stuff was mangled if download the attachments.
mircea_popescu: mkay. so the important rule being : never use any sane file extension.
mircea_popescu: go for g58a2 or w/e, 5 character items. no .txt ; no .asc ; no anything
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so muchg fopr the ~actual~ intended usecase, where idiot can be emailed with the ml cc'd.
mircea_popescu: the only way to extract function out of the kicking-and-screaming pile of "human cultural & civilisational heritage" is to use things it doesn't know yet. unknown file extensions. unknown protocols. what have you.
mircea_popescu: a sterner indictment of humanity as a species could scarcely be devised.
mircea_popescu: this is the reason early us was so great : it correctly identified the natives as the scum that they are, by virtue of being people, and massacred them wholesale.
punkman: "Is that a virus? Who cares. Run it. Let the Russian botmaster watch you dress through your webcam. Make sure your underwear matches. Lenovo."
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funkenstein_: I cannot fathom what is meant here with "great" and "scum" and "a century"
funkenstein_: perhaps, a hint for the future of North Tenochtitlan
funkenstein_ yields the asson-bot and goes to consult with the great spirit
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shinohai: Welp I don't think they are gonna mine their way back in the black punkman xD
punkman: shinohai: that's why they raised $3.5mil to make an app
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31925 @ 0.00072814 = 23.2459 BTC [+]
shinohai: Because apps solve all our software problems.
fluffypony: you're not a real company unless you have an app
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00072846 = 19.3042 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: Is there a #bitcoin-assets app? (kek)
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mats: jurov: do you have a new eta for coinbr?
funkenstein_: "American Holocaust" - David E. Stannard <-- start here.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00073154 = 16.2036 BTC [+] {6}
funkenstein_: I'm also not going to celebrate the destruction of the library of Alexandria because "people".
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29411 @ 0.00072315 = 21.2686 BTC [-] {3}
funkenstein_: It's not Washington's orders to slit throats of women and children, nor Jackson's collection of noses and human skin leather that pisses me off so much.
funkenstein_: It's the total lack of intellectual curiosity - the fear of learning - and yes - that they drove off the fucking lorax.
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mats: TIL most major .gov.gr servers still use SSLv3
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 21:44:38; mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> great, but why? << this is a complex point and would require some more indepth discussion to do it justice. in summary to my eyes it is an early attempt by the microsoft citatel to parlay compatibility problems of early linux into a "here, we've strangled it" usg solution. it failed to work irl, and the failure of java is torvalds' chief merit in this world. using it today is not unlike
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assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 21:55:02; trinque: my car was smashed-n-grabbed two nights ago, stole that 4u I picked up and some other computers, guitars, etc
ben_vulpes: but srs, "don't leave valuables in the vehicle" around these parts.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.0007226 = 19.6186 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 03:05:07; mircea_popescu: three hours was my total budged interacting with it for this entire year.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: today i didn't want to go to brunch, so lady v made me brunch before going out for her own.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00071929 = 17.1551 BTC [-]
shinohai: Well *you* still have a trained one ben_vulpes. My gf is coming over to cookout later, though I rather enjoy the BBQ side of cooking.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.0007318 = 6.8789 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: i, for instance, no longer shit in the kitchen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00072331 = 13.9599 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 20:41:46; mircea_popescu: in other news, that dude i tried to hire to do bitbet advertising absconded with the budget did he.
punkman: so I mutilated Veh, it now saves its cache to disk so it doesn't have to redo it all each time it's invoked
☟︎☟︎☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37028 @ 0.00071882 = 26.6165 BTC [-] {5}
ben_vulpes: d'you have a vpatch for it yet, punkman?
punkman: it's not a patch, it's now called vit
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you have popcorn
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punkman: mostly for personal amusement, but I'll post it to ml later
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trinque: ben_vulpes | but srs, "don't leave valuables in the vehicle" around these parts. << yup, was packing.
assbot: 'El Chapo': Drug boss's son accidentally reveals fugitive's location on Twitter - Americas - World - The Independent ... (
http://bit.ly/1hLdqg6 )
jurov: in the half of the logs... now the ml is busted too?
☟︎ punkman: jurov: it's probably ok for now
jurov: sigh. i defo need a buddy for these times when my brain just shuts down (this time due to allergy)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00072443 = 9.3451 BTC [-]
jurov: but noone else is so crazy as to be doing this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15548 @ 0.00072443 = 11.2634 BTC [-]
punkman: jurov: dunno if I can help, but if you need a second set of eyes on something, feel free to ask
jurov: punkman: you already have access to mailman vps,no? or was it mod6?
punkman: I don't have access to anything
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 18:09:28; punkman: so I mutilated Veh, it now saves its cache to disk so it doesn't have to redo it all each time it's invoked
punkman: ascii_modem, I understand this, but let's just say I have other project that won't be fun if it takes 6 weeks to recompute
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assbot: btcdrak comments on Bitcoin Foundation: "Today’s shoutout is to Blockstream, who has funded more core dev than anyone, including us. Their knowledge & depth is extraordinary." ... (
http://bit.ly/1LQRL0o )
shinohai: Congrats on your celebrity coindesk status too btcdrak
btcdrak: <3 that was a pretty good score considering all the armchair lawyers who came out of the woodwork telling me I was wrong...
☟︎ shinohai: It's reddit, did you expect any less than amateirs that know better than you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00072373 = 14.1851 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 18:09:28; punkman: so I mutilated Veh, it now saves its cache to disk so it doesn't have to redo it all each time it's invoked
mod6: Well, one thing I don't want is a persistant store of the parents and children of a given patch. I want it to read it fresh everytime so ensure things aren't diddled or cosmic-ray'd or just stale or something. Not sure if that's what was changed on punkmans side. But I want the one that I use to do all of this in one shot.
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funkenstein_: but no, nyt won't mention that he is a cia asset, soa graduate, or name the ixil.
shinohai: Of course not, even though the US pressured his admin to end "corruption" lol
shinohai: It serves their interests more to keep the region unstable, and it has been far too long since Guatemala's civil war.
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funkenstein_: I fail to see how mental illness and retardation run amok is in anyone's interest
shinohai: I have no clue. usg feels that if a region is unstable and retarded then 'muricans can swoop in save the day and keep it all under their control?
funkenstein_: shinohai, the only thing I can come up with is such total insecurity and absence of self worth that the feeling of killing things makes one feel like they "matter" (to borrow from earlier convo)
shinohai: Perhaps so. I have not the insights into such things myself. Though I cannot be accused of having inflated self-worth I can't rationalize how killing things makes me matter more.
shinohai: And pete_dushenski and I just discussed "mattering" last night!
funkenstein_: perhaps we shouldn't try too hard to understand the actions of psychopaths, but rather - the inaction of those who could prevent this shit
shinohai: I can see that. Death seems too simple a solution to deal with enemies, if your desire is to conquer them.
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shinohai: Where are mircea_popescu 's aphorisms in moments like this.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is it intentional that v will not list the wot without root patches?
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