nicoleci: BingoBoingo, tried and received the message: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
nicoleci: Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic).
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: try again, but this time put on the command line: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=0 ssh you@serveryouaretryingtoreach
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: You've got desktop weird intruding on your workflow. There's a helper program that was trying to be "smart" for you.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, ugh.. thanks for letting me know will look into the intrusiveness
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: You probably can't afford the time to go full on ascetic putting together a "cleanest" possible linux, but the first couple things that popped up when I looked for "What causes this awful error" were all gnome related.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, yeah and i suppose this is actually the cost for updating ubuntu.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: Or for picking the flavor with Gnome as the desktop. The gnome folks drive much of the "linux gets worse every year" mess that makes a tmsr os rather high on the list of necessities.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, yes it does! i can't wait to see how progression develops/end result
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I've long ago settled on XFCE as my balance between "sometime point and click offload pressure on my brainbox" versus "I don't want to subject myself to engineers constantly breaking everything"
BingoBoingo: Every linux/bsd/etc I've run it on top of works with a minimum of fiddling.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, ah okay - will check it out. my knowledge of what makes a proper os is still very noobish.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I think Ubuntu even has a flavor that uses XFCE instead of the Gnome crap they replaced their old thing only they used
BingoBoingo: With that you'd still have Ubuntu under the hood, but hopefully less of the stuff that gets in the way because "Gotta win the desktop for Linux by rebuilding Windows, but more broken"
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I recommend asking hanbot what she uses to her her boxes.
hanbot uses death rattles and mournful sighs, for the most part.
hanbot: anyway nicoleci is on a semi-public toilet sorta scheme, iirc, as she works towards understanding why she'd rather not be
hanbot: for which the above is a useful lesson.
BingoBoingo: That's kinda what I figured. Now that Adobe Flash is dead and buried, is there anywhere on the toilet-web/appverse that doesn't at least appear to work on Chromium?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-06-01 08:46:10 mircea_popescu: i wanted to try the outside world
BingoBoingo: hanbot: From what I've seen the outside world seems to have shrank considerably while trying very hard to appear to have grown.
hanbot: well it's certainly grown in terms of needlessly complex stupidity and cosmetic optionality devoid of substantial difference. it can't grow if nobody remembers what it's for and why it goes a certain way, except for a scant few with entirely other sets of problems.
BingoBoingo: I far as I can tell the space narrowed to 1. Folks developing for fondleslabs 2. Folks developing for Chrome/Chromium/Webkit 3. Folks developing from the increasingly fractured 3Dgame/steam space and settling for whatever nintendos call themselves today
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-21 06:43:55 mircea_popescu: it seems to me that "special purpose os" is a contorted circumlocution for "an app". it futher seems to me that the proposition "hey, you know how to do the thing we don't know how to do ? let's do what we know how to do instead and call it good!" is fundamentally weak, ethically (ie, that it's not driven by anything but convenience) ; and that the "make your os for a purpose" thing is undistinguishable from it
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Right. And this triad is a substantial narrowing from back in the day when Macromedia/Adobe Flash/shockwave were... different things. Microsoft shat out a .Net/Silverlight/etc every other year, etc
hanbot: honing in on the bulk of demands being "plays candy crush, orders takeout, rounds corners"
BingoBoingo: Also the padded walled gardens that don't want juicy bimbos
hanbot crashing before dawn hits over here
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a point, not so much walled gardens as padded reservations.
mircea_popescu: as in, "do you have your reservations ?" "o boy howdy do i! i have reservations about everything!!!" "right this way please, you'll fit right in!"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-22 21:16:09 BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I think Ubuntu even has a flavor that uses XFCE instead of the Gnome crap they replaced their old thing only they used
diana_coman: and there's a quite minimal version that I used to install without any trouble really.
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jfw: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo: trinque appears to have solved the problem with my deedbot wallet account but any previous attempts at invoicing didn't make it through. Should be clear to retry now.