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assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1530 @ 0.001749 = 2.676 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.00177 = 0.177 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 516 @ 0.0016763 = 0.865 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.83 = 7.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.003 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01676 = 0.5028 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 50 @ 0.09594299 = 4.7971 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01727 = 0.1727 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CB.IDIFF-E] 5 @ 0.0244 = 0.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1350 @ 0.003 = 4.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.01599333 = 0.2399 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.003 = 0.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 2 @ 0.05485 = 0.1097 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ms4zl/atlantis_online_drug_black_market_shuts_its_doors/cccdzpw
thestringpuller: ;;seen mod6
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 2 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <mod6> haha
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.003 = 7.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 182 @ 0.001905 = 0.3467 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 682 @ 0.007192 = 4.9049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 150 @ 0.007193 = 1.079 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 401 @ 0.003 = 1.203 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.803 = 3.606 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 5000 @ 0.003 = 15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 2800 @ 0.003 = 8.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.003 = 0.105 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 2165 @ 0.003 = 6.495 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.8026 = 9.013 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01666258 = 0.8331 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 1800 @ 0.003 = 5.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.003 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 605 @ 0.001559 = 0.9432 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1395 @ 0.001559 = 2.1748 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00155329 = 1.5533 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003 = 0.45 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2425775/Climate-scientists-told-cover-fact-Earths-temperature-risen-15-years.html
ozbot: Climate scientists told to 'cover up' the fact that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen for the las
dexX7: without reading, just looking at the pictures -> "oh wow, ipcc again"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doesn't matter if someone leaks a video of all the AGW folks fucking goats while laughing at the gullible public
mircea_popescu: why not ? it amuses me.
asciilifeform: the chumpatron will keep going without skipping a beat
mircea_popescu: which happens to be the point of the entire exercise, after all.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 980 @ 0.001724 = 1.6895 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: its sort of like the steam-powered automatic doors in ancient egyptian temples
asciilifeform: go ahead and tell the worshippers that the heat from the sacrificial bowl warms the water, etc.
asciilifeform: just get clubbed for your troubles
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.802 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well ehre's the thing : if the worshippers are irrational they're statistically as likely to blow you as they are to clobber you (by definition)
mircea_popescu: if they're rational then there you go.
asciilifeform: trick is that they're already blowing this other fellow
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.01718 = 0.7731 BTC [+]
Ukyo: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3201864#msg3201864
Ukyo: I may be out of line.
asciilifeform: their mouths are full already
mircea_popescu: you actually still have labcoin ?
mircea_popescu: i guess you get to sue burnside nao.
asciilifeform: somebody kindly clue me in, why was this labcoin crapola newsworthy to begin with?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4000 @ 0.00152902 = 6.1161 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: also humor.
Duffer1: they were supposed to bring a bunch of hash online using their own proprietary chips, they botched it. that coupled with the epic incompetence of their pr it's all gone to shit
Duffer1: so much so that it being an outright scam is a very real concern
asciilifeform: Duffer1: i suppose the usual idiots bought in? not much of a chumpatron w/out the chumps
Ukyo: mircea_popescu: yeah, i bought some for amusement at ipo
Ukyo: but, is my point off basis?
Duffer1: with the amount of coin involved it was a bunch of us that bought in
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 sokay, you read trilema next time yes ?
Duffer1: paywalled :(
mircea_popescu: Ukyo it can certainly be argued.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 "with the amount of coin involved"...
Duffer1: 7000 at ipo and much more has traded hands since then
asciilifeform: do i understand correctly, the algo here: 1) peddle an outrageous crock of shit 2) people buy in 'for the lulz' 3) profit!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 960 @ 0.001375 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Duffer1: it wasn't outrageous at ipo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 248 @ 0.00138383 = 0.3432 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: 130nm at ipo with theseven consulting on their 65nm design
asciilifeform: Duffer1: how not? you give some random fellow btc, he proceeds to do ???, you take his word for it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well it's a little more complex. some people buy for the lulz, which is exactly the same process that sunk patrick harnett way back when : have someone with a small but definite investment that takes you to court and kills you.
mircea_popescu: it was my 500 btc then, for instance.
mircea_popescu: some other people buy because they daytrade, that's what they do. these punish the hell out of the scammer by extracting btc from his shit.
mircea_popescu: finally some muppets buy because they're idiots.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2035 @ 0.0013998 = 2.8486 BTC [+]
Duffer1: or gamblers
mircea_popescu: a good 90% of the "volume" is the scammer trading with himself. the remainder 10% is distributed among the 1-2-3 types.
mircea_popescu: if type 2 is large enough the scammer ends getting a negative net before being mauled to shit by 1.
Duffer1: ukyo you're not wrong man, but pr dodging the exchange operator couldn't be a bigger red flag
mircea_popescu: if type 3 is large enough we get a runaway reaction which is bad.
Ukyo: agreed, but i should have been pesented that way
Ukyo: it*
Duffer1: ya i agree
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 the correct way to handle this was, of course, displayed long ago by mpex.
Ukyo: it could have made it worse. but at least it would have been factual.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/
ozbot: S.BVPS delisting notice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dexX7: ukyo: you're post is great, but wouldn't the btct thread be much more fitting?
asciilifeform: well, these folks want trust without the reputation of an affair like mpex. so, cryptocontracts (shitcoin, or something more state-of-the-art)
asciilifeform: why does anyone trust them without a mathematical poison pill of some form ?
Duffer1: mp burnside's confirmed they 85% of shares controlled by the principle labcoin account haven't moved, the activity we're seeing is legit trading
Ukyo: This was just to make my opinion as an investor to other inestors for consideration
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 burnside is in cya mode atm. i don't evaluate what he says from a different perspective.
Ukyo: If i posted that in btct's thread, it would have defenitely been an attack, and not to get a shared consensus from other investors
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00169079 = 1.6908 BTC [+] {5}
Duffer1: hehehe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "anyone". why does anyone trust the ipcc ?
Duffer1: i think backing up addresses with issuers is a reasonable precaution
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm just a bit befuddled at the success of the btc chumpatrons
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure the labcoin one is in the red.
mircea_popescu: no success.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it succeeded in getting attention and pounding the signal-to-noise ratio of various places into the floor
mircea_popescu: what, the forum ?
mircea_popescu: the forum didn't have signal before that.
asciilifeform: this channel, for one
mircea_popescu: i don't think so. great opportunity for new people to learn shit.
asciilifeform: even when a scammer fails to steal a net positive sum, he steals 'brain cycles', no?
mircea_popescu: brain cycles should be stolen. is how education works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i presume you still use spam filters, no? despite the educational value of some 419s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1293 @ 0.003 = 3.879 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 4241 @ 0.01520003 = 64.4633 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01697 = 0.2546 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BMF] 45 @ 0.03199843 = 1.4399 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: partially on topic: http://youtu.be/4K6FXe5XcHs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.01619 = 0.2105 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2520 @ 0.00152025 = 3.831 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00043956 = 2.1978 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1290 @ 0.00178656 = 2.3047 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 21100 @ 0.003 = 63.3 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "Xcoind backend failure at 1966" ~BTCT
dexX7: same error on trading api
ThickAsThieves: i guess we've been christcoined
dexX7: up again
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3900 @ 0.003 = 11.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 670 @ 0.003 = 2.01 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: thx
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 375 @ 0.01621256 = 6.0797 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.003 = 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 4110 @ 0.003 = 12.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.001572 = 0.1572 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 500 @ 0.00190705 = 0.9535 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 500 @ 0.00718775 = 3.5939 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.8 = 7.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01622 = 0.1135 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CB.IDIFF-E] 6 @ 0.0244 = 0.1464 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3333 @ 0.003 = 9.999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01622045 = 0.3568 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.0162 = 0.2106 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 235 @ 0.003 = 0.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 5 @ 0.09511 = 0.4756 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.01622 = 0.4379 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.0951 = 0.951 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.01621315 = 0.6161 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 40 @ 0.095 = 3.8 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2520 @ 0.00180609 = 4.5513 BTC [+] {7}
Duffer1: ;;eauth Duffer1
gribble: Request successful for user Duffer1, hostmask Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/D5B0A00741A54A60
Duffer1: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2e351fee1c44dcaf9361f484e1256921d5e43d62de131938746ab65d
gribble: You are now authenticated for user Duffer1 with key D5B0A00741A54A60
jcpham: "Since I don't think my customers are likely to withdraw more than half of their Bitcoins, I can afford to lend out far higher amounts."
jcpham: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101048897
ozbot: Of course you can have fractional reserve Bitcoin banks
Duffer1: that doesn't sound like it will end well
asciilifeform: where do you go to spend a phantom btc, of the kind shat out by a fractional reserve lender?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.003 = 1.05 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: "I don't even need to transfer the Bitcoins when I make a loan. A transfer would only become necessary when depositors or borrowers draw down their accounts."
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 10000 @ 0.003 = 30 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.10986362 = 1.2085 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 104 @ 0.00152503 = 0.1586 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 116 @ 0.001521 = 0.1764 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01622 = 0.3568 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 580 @ 0.00152 = 0.8816 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01622 = 0.3082 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01622 = 0.292 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01622 = 0.2109 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01622 = 0.1784 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01624 = 0.1299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01622545 = 0.1785 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 98 @ 0.01620183 = 1.5878 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 4500 @ 0.003 = 13.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1442 @ 0.00126501 = 1.8241 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.003 = 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 340 @ 0.00126501 = 0.4301 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 520 @ 0.003 = 1.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.01624273 = 1.3644 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.01685 = 0.5392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00158709 = 1.5871 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 975 @ 0.00069 = 0.6728 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 500 @ 0.00069 = 0.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2040 @ 0.00159799 = 3.2599 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1000 @ 0.00069 = 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1272 @ 0.00186527 = 2.3726 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1550 @ 0.00196395 = 3.0441 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.003 = 0.165 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1953 @ 0.003 = 5.859 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2800 @ 0.00197869 = 5.5403 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.003 = 0.273 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 67 @ 0.001764 = 0.1182 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 76 @ 0.0162 = 1.2312 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 777 @ 0.00158799 = 1.2339 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01655 = 0.1655 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.001789 = 0.1789 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 595 @ 0.00159666 = 0.95 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.015585 = 0.3117 BTC [-] {3}
VanCleef: think we should do an ipo for america to get more guns, not enough guns in america yet, need to give them moarrr
Namworld: Let's do an IPO for my indestructible floating unobtainium fortress.
Namworld: With laser miniguns and plasma bombs
pankkake: That reminds me of my dream house: http://www.bitrebels.com/lifestyle/worlds-most-secure-house-a-zombie-bunker/
Namworld: Will call it AM for AdvancedMadness. Mad scientist flying in style with advanced technology.
Namworld: The safest thing against zombies is background furniture that can't be interacted with/destroyed.
Namworld: Make a circle of it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0162 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0165 = 0.4125 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.74574998 = 34.915 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6210 @ 0.00159987 = 9.9352 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9330 @ 0.0016 = 14.928 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.09869 = 0.9869 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 5330 @ 0.003 = 15.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 200 @ 0.00190391 = 0.3808 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3288 @ 0.003 = 9.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.003 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 6592 @ 0.003 = 19.776 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 505 @ 0.0016 = 0.808 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1830 @ 0.003 = 5.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.0016 = 0.1584 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.001534 = 2.301 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.001534 = 1.534 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 878 @ 0.001534 = 1.3469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00093338 = 8.2137 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 443 @ 0.001599 = 0.7084 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.003 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.00159897 = 0.3198 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.70039999 = 34.008 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.701 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.003 = 9 BTC [+]
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298787.0 very interesting. especially 3) for me
ozbot: My guidelines for Investment/Involvement
pankkake: I wonder how you can provide that kind of evidence - "surveys"?
mircea_popescu: people with a shot at making it.
pankkake: what?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9000 @ 0.00167632 = 15.0869 BTC [+] {12}
mircea_popescu: im sorry, i read "how many".
random_cat: we already have a well known fraction reserve bitcoin bank called "ripple" amont others
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 574 @ 0.00093429 = 0.5363 BTC [+]
Namworld: It's not necessarily fractional... but it can be. Depends who owns you bitcoins.
pankkake: that's true of every service accepting bitcoin deposits
Namworld: For example, if you hold BitStamp BTC debt, it's probable it's not fractional. If you hold from just anyone, it's almost 100% sure.
Namworld: Yes, any service with a balance could be fractional.
Namworld: True enough.
pankkake: at least ripple could allow you to trade 1.1 mtgox btc for 1 bitstamp btc ;)
random_cat: i do not disagree with your assertions
random_cat: i was merely commenting that ripple's debt model is a direct facilitator of fractional reserve for all one might trust
mircea_popescu: more like an extraction engine designed to encourage people to make trust mistakes.
random_cat: isn't that the usual savvy vs unsavvy?
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 150 @ 0.007193 = 1.079 BTC [+] {2}
VanCleef: this fn 2 shit is annoying
mircea_popescu: random_cat seems to me it's not, in the sense dumping poison gas in tokyo subway ism't the usual fit vs unfit.
gangplank: what were they called again? aum something
random_cat: can we call it dropping syringes used for heroin and/or coke injection instead, mircea_popescu? That would seem to fit better.
mircea_popescu: aite, except you don't really inject coke
mircea_popescu: gangplank i think it was aum
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at the ranch : http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/19/us/louisiana-brain-amoeba-water-supply/index.html
random_cat: that's what happens at the end of the continent's sewer
Namworld: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294218.msg3153366#msg3153366
ozbot: Help bring peace with your money
Namworld: oh wow... crazy dank is getting crazier by the day.
Namworld: His posts are now reading like 4chan stories.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this is his confused bid to get laid.
mircea_popescu: "dude out of a million chicks i gotta get lucky"
Namworld: I assume since he was in the past coherent he's either a troll who stole money and now is just trolling hard. Or he was already slightly paranoid and the threats made his mind dive where it could not return.
Namworld: Troll being much more plausible, I'll go with that.
Namworld: His writing would be enough to give someone an aneurysm.
mircea_popescu: The Tale of Dank, an autobiography explaining my life and helping you understand and believe in it.
Namworld: (drugs of interpretation not included)
mircea_popescu: "Dank, I had a dream that you returned to me the million dollars that I loaned to you in my other dream. "
mircea_popescu: ahaha that thread delivers.
Namworld: It does, it does
mircea_popescu: (what I thought would happen is they would kill me, bitcoin forum would take notice, world takes notice, economy collapses and society breaks down for a concert to be organized. I would descend from the sky, like a UFO and bring peace.)
Namworld: It's a madman's soup of text
Namworld: "I'd say we are equal. Actions do speak louder than words, which is why you will all believe me when I float at the concert, just as St. Joseph and Yogi Pullavar did. I know someone personally who has floated and I know someone who has witnessed their iPhone float."
Namworld: I feel high just reading this
mircea_popescu: lmao
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00039998 = 3.9998 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 899 @ 0.00039998 = 0.3596 BTC [+] {4}
Namworld: His signature says: "Currently seeking plot of land to host 1,000,000+ person music festivalDank Dream 2012 - Leave fear for love"
mircea_popescu: Let me just say, so you know. They total amount you laugh at me in your lifetime for my beliefs, you will laugh at yourself when I float.
mircea_popescu: dude, if this guy floated i'd still laugh at him.
Namworld: It would be hilarious.
Namworld: Should I get him a fenced field, put him in it, and you know, let him run free?
Namworld: He could graze in it and sing to a crowd of spirits.
mircea_popescu: how's that different from current situation ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.70079999 = 17.008 BTC [-] {3}
Namworld: He wouldn't be able to beg for money on the forum.
Namworld: "Dude read this thing.. dont move this shit it is completely nuts. You should make this post the home page
Namworld:
Namworld: Says sublime
Namworld: Yes, that might be an accurate representation of bitcointalk.org
Namworld: Hmm, well I'm off. Enough crazy reads for today.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.75747058 = 29.877 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3750 @ 0.003 = 11.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.003 = 0.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.09430714 = 0.6601 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 2589 @ 0.00299349 = 7.7501 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 990 @ 0.001698 = 1.681 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3010 @ 0.00169989 = 5.1167 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 557 @ 0.00171 = 0.9525 BTC [+]
fractal: looks like 'nakowa' has won 8,000 BTC from just-dice.com 4,000 in the last 2 days. insane.
mircea_popescu: crazy.
fractal: never seen anything like it
fractal: my investment down 200 btc because of this guy
mircea_popescu: what's the site stats like ?
fractal: and if he stops, it will be months before it recovers
fractal: 1,250,000 BTC wagered. profit is around 0.2%
fractal: house edge is 1%... so he's beating the bank
Diablo-D3: heh
Diablo-D3: just dice probably is broken
mircea_popescu: so site is up about 4k atm ?
Diablo-D3: I won like 100 BTC before SD fixed their shit lol
mircea_popescu: or was it slighlty under EV even before he started.
pankkake: it was already under
pankkake: thanks to nakowa's past bets I guess
Scrat: fractal: nop, you're wrong
fractal: pankkake: glad to see you're down on your just-dice investment. made my day.
Scrat: this is well within statistical variance
Scrat: probably need 100 million wagered to converge close to 1%
mircea_popescu: Scrat what is he wrong about ?
Scrat: that it's broken
mircea_popescu: he said that ?
fractal: Scrat: no. the site profit is 1% if you take away all of nakowa's bets. only nakowa is beating the bank
Scrat: "beating the bank"
Diablo-D3: is that like
Diablo-D3: masturbating?
mircea_popescu: that just means someone is winning, doesn't mean it's broken
mircea_popescu: at least that's what i read in it.
Scrat: fractal: yes since if you take away his bets you're left with 0.00001 shitty bets and the law of large numbers
fractal: you dont need 100million wagered for 1%. its the number of bets that matters not amount wagered... take away nakowa and the site is OVER 1%
Rannasha: Nakowa is also the only gambler with a bankroll of that magnitude. So him having a lucky streak significantly offsets the sites overall stats.
Scrat: which he doesnt obey because he is doing a few hundrend 400 bets
Scrat: not even a hundred
fractal: scrat: of course. and he won't stick around to bet more... he says he is cashing out and never playing again
Rannasha: fractal: He said that before after his first big run.
Scrat: thats irrelevant
pankkake: he must have bet LetsDice IPO money. maybe I should have invested in there :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2750 @ 0.00171 = 4.7025 BTC [+]
fractal: '<nakowa> I pm doog in the forum, told him how to help me rain. I'm done here. Bye! I'll be truly miss you and here."'
fractal: pankkake: keep investing in just-dice when nakowa plays, hopefully you'll lose more money.
Scrat: he's delusional and he thinks that past losses influence future wins
Scrat: statistics fail
Scrat: fractal: I've had a guy go +135 on my website spamming 3 btc on the 50%
Scrat: now multiply 135 by (400 / 3)
fractal: Scrat: whats your site?
Scrat: https://coinroll.it
Scrat: it was around a 3sigma deviation
fractal: Scrat: whats the psychology of someone who plays at your site instead of just-dice? why would they do it?
Scrat: which was way luckier than nakowa
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 754 @ 0.00182017 = 1.3724 BTC [-] {7}
pankkake: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/20/websites-pornography-block-cash
ozbot: Plan to block payments to websites that allow children to view pornography | Technology | theguardi
Scrat: fractal: because some people like it for smaller bets, derp
fractal: pankkake: stop spamming the chat. thanks.
Scrat: also instant deposits
fractal: Scrat: just-dice also has instant deposits
Scrat: * inputs.io required
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003 = 3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: people generally like variety in their gambling.
fractal: oh you take 0 confirm deposits?
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 150 @ 0.009251 = 1.3877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00093664 = 11.8017 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1536 @ 0.00038352 = 0.5891 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4100 @ 0.00155411 = 6.3719 BTC [-] {12}
yttr: so what do you guys think about NEOBEE?
mircea_popescu: yttr ThickAsThieves' thing
yttr: huh?
yttr: oh that's TAT's deal?
yttr: I saw it was tat.neobee on btct.co
Scrat: he has his paws everywhere
Scrat: how long until TAT.EARTH
mircea_popescu: or tat.urmom
Scrat: fuck
Scrat: :/
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "my name is basil williams a lawyer by profession , i sent an
mircea_popescu: email to you a few months ago and i was not sure you got it that is
mircea_popescu: why i am sending you this mail once again, regarding the transfer of
mircea_popescu: 4.5 million euros to an offshore account"
mircea_popescu: dude i'm fucking rich. all you bitchez wish you were as rich as me with my 4.5 million euros and basil williams, Pricipal Attorny
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7305 = 3.461 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: always liked that name, Basil
kakobrekla: we use that name too but for females
kakobrekla: aka Bazilika
ThickAsThieves: is -ika, like -ina, inha, etc, dimunitive, I think it's called
kakobrekla: not in this case
ThickAsThieves: my little kakobreklika
mircea_popescu: basilica just means church
mircea_popescu: in people languages.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.0015378 = 4.6134 BTC [-] {5}
kakobrekla: i would be kakobreklca
mircea_popescu: and it'd prolly be kakobreklichka
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: yes well
kakobrekla: that works too
mircea_popescu: :D
kakobrekla: but ch = c
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 291 @ 0.00190505 = 0.5544 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 2990 @ 0.003 = 8.97 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.003 = 0.438 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01645666 = 0.2468 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01646 = 0.2963 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.11926 = 0.5963 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1074 @ 0.003 = 3.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.01646 = 0.428 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: btw tactm did reply to my question about the BTC volume for Gox in August, with a clarification question. I clarified and he never responded again. He did seem a little proturbed...
ThickAsThieves: perturbed
mircea_popescu: prolly busy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0012725 = 0.1273 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.01646 = 0.4609 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.7135 = 6.854 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.702 = 10.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 5710 @ 0.003 = 17.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 389 @ 0.00166398 = 0.6473 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7085 = 3.417 BTC [+] {2}
info: hi
info: someone here could anwer question about bitbet?
kakobrekla: ask away
info: it is possible that the bet i placed was not received?
kakobrekla: how long since you sent the coins?
info: 2013-09-07 16:41:16
info: i didn't checked till today and now realize that bet was not posted
kakobrekla: actually better question is which address did you use, you can pm me if you want to keep it private
info: ok
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 110 @ 0.00166574 = 0.1832 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 500 @ 0.00175 = 0.875 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.016 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.01588 = 0.8575 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01580285 = 0.1106 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0157 = 0.1884 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01562 = 0.1562 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 113 @ 0.01553006 = 1.7549 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 460 @ 0.00160109 = 0.7365 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 97 @ 0.01512 = 1.4666 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01689499 = 0.1689 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.017 = 0.595 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.1851 = 0.9255 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.185 = 0.925 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.181 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.7 = 5.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 800 @ 0.01052886 = 8.4231 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 241 @ 0.001966 = 0.4738 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 2767 @ 0.00698235 = 19.3202 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 162 @ 0.00179596 = 0.2909 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7064/
ozbot: Mt. Gox USD withdrawals could take 22 months.
kakobrekla: ok bitcoin is maturing : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298889.0;topicseen
kakobrekla: people dont know what or who satoshi is
kakobrekla: (maturing means more idiots use it)
thestringpuller: isn't satoshi the guy who made mario or something?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2600 @ 0.00171849 = 4.4681 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1000 @ 0.0071903 = 7.1903 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: satoshi is the original scammer right?
Diablo-D3: yeah really
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 94 @ 0.00161 = 0.1513 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: lets blame him
Diablo-D3: and the NSA
Diablo-D3: since he works for the NSA
ThickAsThieves: he designed this ponzi afterall
Diablo-D3: yeah and like
Diablo-D3: that whole social security thing
Diablo-D3: roosevelt was a scammer
ThickAsThieves: we should regulate more
pankkake: social security is not a scam as long as you have infinite people!
ThickAsThieves: well then bitcoin isnt a ponzi as long as you have infinite bagholders!
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.003 = 1.05 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it is the Infinity Gem
Diablo-D3: pankkake: infinite people is easy
Diablo-D3: I mean, just look at women on welfare
Diablo-D3: dohohohohohoho
pankkake: hehe, well, infinite workers
pankkake: the only way to keep western social security alive is to import foreign workers
ThickAsThieves: or kill inifinite westerners
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.65 BTC [-]
pankkake: we have one French "respected" guy in politics who once said there had to be a maximum age to live
pankkake: (I think he stopped mentionning it because he's old now)
ThickAsThieves: there is probly a max age
pankkake: soylent green might be closer than we think
kakobrekla: does it contain soy or just humans?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2987 @ 0.00057398 = 1.7145 BTC [-] {6}
ThickAsThieves: vegans
kakobrekla: :)
jurov: but most humans are well past slaughter age
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.00719 = 0.1438 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3500 @ 0.00165684 = 5.7989 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 122 @ 0.001658 = 0.2023 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.723 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1544 @ 0.00179567 = 2.7725 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 193 @ 0.00175649 = 0.339 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "Why should investors still have trust into this security, when we see all these sells down to 0.0010? the next stop is at 0.0007"
ThickAsThieves: @ icedrill
ThickAsThieves: people's minds are so warped
ThickAsThieves: stock is down, why should i trust you?
kakobrekla: because stock is down silly!
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: some whale competitor is betting big on jdice and winning
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003 = 0.45 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker btctc icedrill
assbot: It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
ThickAsThieves: its only on BF
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 997 @ 0.00020301 = 0.2024 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1722 @ 0.00021927 = 0.3776 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1401 @ 0.000224 = 0.3138 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.00155465 = 4.664 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.685 = 3.37 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.685 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.00155252 = 2.3288 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.9167 BTC [+]
FabianB_: kakobrekla: is it just me or is assbot announcing more trades in -trades than here?
kakobrekla: sub 0.1 is muted here
FabianB_: ah
FabianB_: makes sense
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01515 = 0.1818 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01513 = 0.4539 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1830 @ 0.001538 = 2.8145 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01513 = 0.469 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 150 @ 0.001532 = 0.2298 BTC [-]
pankkake: which is nice, maybe I'll unignore buttbot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10534 @ 0.00039998 = 4.2134 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: all the things i do for you, my kids.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1700 @ 0.00155937 = 2.6509 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 310 @ 0.00054803 = 0.1699 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 175 @ 0.00153391 = 0.2684 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.110075 = 0.4403 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 16 @ 0.00719 = 0.115 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: kakobrekla!
thestringpuller: it's too hard: kakobrekla
kakobrekla: thats what she said
Diablo-D3: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.003 = 0.132 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 3200 @ 0.003 = 9.6 BTC [+]
jurov: kakobreklito
thestringpuller: It's in the wrong hole!!! kakobrekla :)
kakobrekla: how can you talk then?!
pankkake: my mind is confused by the brekla somehow
pankkake: thestringpuller: there is no wrong hole
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 22 @ 0.82773181 = 18.2101 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: did a dude from coinjabber contacted anyone around?
jurov: asked me for a feeless coinbr account in exchange for traffic :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 820 @ 0.003 = 2.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 247 @ 0.00159997 = 0.3952 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 17 @ 0.0533647 = 0.9072 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 150 @ 0.001679 = 0.2519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 210 @ 0.001953 = 0.4101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00093848 = 4.6924 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.0071 = 0.142 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 85 @ 0.001679 = 0.1427 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 950 @ 0.00153844 = 1.4615 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: wow diff is going sky high
thestringpuller: .d
ozbot: 112628548.66635 | Next Diff in 810 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8496% in 4d 6h 30m 19s
ThickAsThieves: ''nethash
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 1067840.83784
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Current Blocks: 259253 | Current Difficulty: 1.1262854866634709E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 260063 | Next Difficulty In: 810 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 6 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 139526137.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.88168
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 139526137.6 based on data since last change | 149173365.516 based on data for last three days
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.6875 = 3.375 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0151325 = 0.3632 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 548 @ 0.00167398 = 0.9173 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 1163 @ 0.003 = 3.489 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "I've just offered 500 CIPHERMINE-PT (some of my personal shares) at a knock-down price of 0.05 BTC/share. I personally remain convinced that CipherMine's share price will recover to its earlier levels within the next month or two as our armada of ASICs get rolled out so this is a good chance for you to get in on the action. I don't intend to do many offerings like this at below market
ThickAsThieves: rate, but I see it as in my interests as main shareholder to boost liquidity and make the pass-thru a success."
ThickAsThieves: what a load of crap
kakobrekla: who said that
ThickAsThieves: Kate from Ciphermine
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3205490#msg3205490
ozbot: [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE-PT - Industrial Mining & High Performance Computing
ThickAsThieves: she makes these private deals like every month
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003 = 3 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: huh
ThickAsThieves: i like how she boosts liquidity by flooding a PT that has an empty bid book
mircea_popescu: who that ?
ThickAsThieves: "I've just offered 500 CIPHERMINE-PT (some of my personal shares) at a knock-down price of 0.05 BTC/share. I personally remain convinced that CipherMine's share price will recover to its earlier levels within the next month or two as our armada of ASICs get rolled out so this is a good chance for you to get in on the action. I don't intend to do many offerings like this at below market
ThickAsThieves: rate, but I see it as in my interests as main shareholder to boost liquidity and make the pass-thru a success."
ThickAsThieves: Kate from Ciphermine
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3205490#msg3205490
mircea_popescu: waitwut
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 127 @ 0.00165 = 0.2096 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: roughly 20% below market price too
mircea_popescu: so basically the entire plan failed and she's late on rent.
mircea_popescu: yet another wannabe-scam in the red.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.015375 = 0.7995 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: gotta love the free market. the only method to organise a bunch of retards with a sprinkle of sanity into something that regularly wrecks the best laid out scamplans.
pankkake: I never followed cypermine somehow. they're litecoin miners?
pankkake: my best performing litecoin asset is a PMB, who would have guessed?
ThickAsThieves: it's basically a mining farm fund of whatever type they whimsy toward that day
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.684 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.684 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298905.msg3204972;topicseen#new
ozbot: Open Investigation into Just-Dice/Dooglus
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00094307 = 13.5802 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: more idiocy
pankkake: the guy doesn't understand the internet basically
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.684 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Just-Dice & Towtoad were registered a week between each other. Meaning Celeste/Nakowa had already planned on releasing a dice site BEFORE he won the excessive money from JD? It sounds like planning ahead to me... planning ahead a ponzi
mircea_popescu: this is kinda iffy reasoning.
ThickAsThieves: yep
mircea_popescu: i mean... this girl i'm banging was born in '87 ? sounds like at the time i didn't even speak english
mircea_popescu: sounds like planning ahead to me...
mircea_popescu: sounds like planning a... hm. is it a ponzi if she likes to suck it ?
ThickAsThieves: like if you were born on the same date as Hitler, you should be shot
mircea_popescu: i tihnk that's actually how that worked.
mircea_popescu: the blessing of being contemporary to idiots.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 665 @ 0.00193097 = 1.2841 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: so in GTA IV these uncut diamonds, of course stolen between some 20 parties, come in on the boat with you. then it becomes a game of "who ends up with the diamonds".
thestringpuller: In the end the diamonds get thrown into a garbage truck, and no one is able to find them.
thestringpuller: So a hobo ends up finding them in the end as if he won the lottery.
thestringpuller: The hobo I think starts some shady ass business.
mircea_popescu: is this a film ?
thestringpuller: no this is a game
thestringpuller: the narrative qualities make the story play out like a film
ThickAsThieves: "Atlantis was good for Silk Road and the community at large and I am sad to see it go. Yes they were a bit cocky and aggressive, but they never crossed the line and did anything unethical, and they served their customers well. They reminded us in the Silk Road administration that to stay #1, we have to be constantly thinking of our users and how to serve them best and can not take for
ThickAsThieves: granted your loyalty.
ThickAsThieves: There has been more than one occasion where I have wanted to quit as well. Without going into details, the stress of being DPR is sometimes overwhelming. What keeps me going is the understanding that what we are doing here is more important than my insignificant little life. I believe what we are doing will have rippling effects for generations to come and could be part of a monumental
ThickAsThieves: shift in how human beings organize and relate to one another.
ThickAsThieves: I have gone through the mental exercise of spending a lifetime in prison and of dying for this cause. I have let the fear pass through me and with clarity commit myself fully to the mission and values outlined in the Silk Road charter. If you haven’t read it yet, please do. " ~DPR
thestringpuller: :P
thestringpuller: To be honest though.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.51001, Best ask: 133.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75999, Last trade: 132.50300, 24 hour volume: 5009.17739557, 24 hour low: 132.00000, 24 hour high: 136.00000, 24 hour vwap: 134.05665
thestringpuller: Silk Road vendors make the rest of bitcoin world look like a scam.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin looks like a scam just fine on its own
thestringpuller: They use GPG keys for all orders. Self destruction for shipping information. The Vendors all act like professionals, and provide excellent customer support.
thestringpuller: The stealth is magnificient
thestringpuller: I think the climate DPR has created on silk road is absolutely phenomenal.
thestringpuller: The only other comparator is perhaps MPEx.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves dpr, possibly the only guy really into btc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 657 @ 0.00039995 = 0.2628 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00094256 = 11.2165 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: if anyone is looking for things to say to noobs, may i humbly propose https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298905.msg3205724#msg3205724 for your consideration.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 543 @ 0.00129183 = 0.7015 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: http://bitbet.us/bet/495/there-will-be-blood/
ozbot: BitBet - There will be blood
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 447 @ 0.00132898 = 0.5941 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: seems like nice pots.
thestringpuller: I don't know what this bet is about - it refers to things I have never heard of - but I am betting "no" since the odds are so skewed. Why put 10 on something against nothing? - Random User
thestringpuller: Which relates back to your n00b post.
thestringpuller: Examples be everywher eyo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1491 @ 0.000427 = 0.6367 BTC [+]
pankkake: intesting, the payouts are still worth it for this bet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.003 = 0.201 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: true.
mircea_popescu: at least betting is supposed to be leisure, as opposed to investing which is theoretically work
pankkake: it's pretty similar. you think you know the future
mircea_popescu: ya, but it's one thing to think you know the future and recount it to some chick during post coital bliss as an exercise in humorous fantastic creativity,
mircea_popescu: and it's quite another thing to think you know the future and recount it to a bunch of sexually frustrated men in uniform as an exercise in solving the world's imagined problems
pankkake: I wasn't aware betting was like that. I should bet more
mircea_popescu: lol
saulimus: why does btct say "access temporarily denied"?
mircea_popescu: there was no announcement, so nobody knows.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, have a laser dog : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Black-Lab-3-months-old-puppy.jpg
saulimus: so this affects everyone?
mircea_popescu: afaik.
Rannasha: No, it's some sort of protection-mechanism that kicks in when multiple failed logins have been made on the account, locks you out for a while.
Rannasha: Somewhere someone is trying to bruteforce your account. If the mechanism is working properly, that is.
Rannasha: Wait 5-10 minutes, it'll be gone.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1005 @ 0.00159989 = 1.6079 BTC [+] {3}
saulimus: well, that's comforting....
Rannasha: It sucks, I have no idea why it doesn't lock people out by IP when they try to bruteforce an account.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.704 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem too credible a theory to me. for one thing, why would someone bruteforcing an account stop.
mircea_popescu: for the other thing, why would they be using your ip
mircea_popescu: for the third, why would someone continue with the same process long after the supposed defense was installed.
saulimus: maybe I just typed my 2-auth wrong.
mircea_popescu: well did you ?
saulimus: too late to check now, the code has changed.
Rannasha: It gives a different error when you mistype 2FA, done that before.
mircea_popescu: so listen, sometime verify this.
mircea_popescu: a ok.
saulimus: ok.
Rannasha: But this error does come from consecutive failed logins, burnside has mentioned this in the BTC-TC thread on bitcointalk
Rannasha: Since several other people have run into the same thing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.003 = 0.999 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: saulimus did you have consecutive failed logins ?
saulimus: no, I tried to login once, got the message
mircea_popescu: well who knows.
Rannasha: "That happens either when someone has been trying to hack your account or you've pissed off our DDoS filter" from Burnside @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3151374;topicseen#msg3151374
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 322 @ 0.003 = 0.966 BTC [-]
PqcUy2: of the total outstanding ActM shares how many were sold for .0025 in the most recent ipo?
mircea_popescu: when was that most recent ipo ?
PqcUy2: I am not familiar with the asset and am trying to find information now. I read in this post that the ipo was all messed up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254930.msg2714039#msg2714039 . They do not say when this happened or the share counts however :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ok, here
mircea_popescu: !t btct activemining
assbot: [BTCT:ACTIVEMINING] 1D: 0.001509 / 0.00175 / 0.001979 (24472 shares, 42.9 BTC), 7D: 0.001401 / 0.00214 / 0.0029 (266315 shares, 570.5 BTC), 30D: 0.001401 / 0.00387 / 0.006998 (1790736 shares, 6933 BTC)
mircea_popescu: so if that latest ipo was in the past 30 days, no more than 7k btc.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01538 = 0.2461 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5006 BTC [-]
pankkake: the post is answering your question. 0.0005 × 5,000,000 + 0.0025 × 20,000,000
pankkake: wait no
PqcUy2: I am trying to find out how many of the shares were initially sold for .0005 vs how many went for .0025
PqcUy2: I will need to dig further
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.50000001 = 4 BTC [-]
pankkake: most were for 0025
mircea_popescu: PqcUy2 you have a decent shot at finding it in the chan logs,
mircea_popescu: seeing how iirc activescam is ulterior to the website log being made available.
PqcUy2: Thank you for the assistance :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 162 @ 0.01539604 = 2.4942 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 519 @ 0.00127045 = 0.6594 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00093541 = 3.8352 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 88 @ 0.00164994 = 0.1452 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 360 @ 0.00127 = 0.4572 BTC [-] {2}
PqcUy2: I assume the + / - beside those indicate a buy or sell but what does the {#} mean?
mircea_popescu: the + - indicate relation to previous price
mircea_popescu: the # is how many individually reported trades were aggregated into the line
PqcUy2: Thank you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1159 @ 0.00120689 = 1.3988 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5000 @ 0.0012 = 6 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 380 @ 0.01661257 = 6.3128 BTC [+] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.01652702 = 0.6115 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.016625 = 0.665 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00299 = 1.794 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1200 @ 0.00165368 = 1.9844 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 300 @ 0.01054 = 3.162 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 100 @ 0.01054 = 1.054 BTC [+]
jurov: mhm interesting happenings on AWS..spot prices for north virginia jumped about 2x last 2 weeks
jurov: so now they are more expensive than in other zones
jurov: someone madly mining something or it's just me?
mircea_popescu: what's aws ?
jurov: amazon web services... teh cloud
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4041 @ 0.00177552 = 7.1749 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: o o
mircea_popescu: isn't virginia where nsa does its computing /
jurov: amazon has separate cloud for govt, aptly named "GovCloud"
jurov: but it's possible nsa gobbled it and needs moar :)
jurov: http://d36cz9buwru1tt.cloudfront.net/solutions/publicsector/govcloud-region.jpg totaly some intern
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01679 = 0.1511 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0169 = 0.7267 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5089 @ 0.00178529 = 9.0853 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.712 = 8.56 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: heh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.736 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 206 @ 0.01054878 = 2.173 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FIMB] 790 @ 0.01101012 = 8.698 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.00129979 = 0.7799 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 94 @ 0.01065 = 1.0011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.6547 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 95 @ 0.09812431 = 9.3218 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 340 @ 0.0004 = 0.136 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 221 @ 0.0018 = 0.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CB.IDIFF-E] 5 @ 0.02398 = 0.1199 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 43 @ 0.009178 = 0.3947 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.735 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.731 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.0169 = 0.2873 BTC [+]