bitcoin935: hi can anyone explain to me what 'ministry of games' does? thank you i am looking to buy shares

bitcoin935: on the website trilema the explanation is vague

bitcoin935: gambling?

bitcoin935: are any projects currently being worked on

bitcoin935: im also an investor in bitbet

bitcoin935: any forward statements to this months profits

bitcoin935: or guesses?

bitcoin935: does mr voorhees come in here?

bitcoin935: asshole ruined sdice with his ban on US players

bitcoin935: want him to buy my shares back from me

bitcoin935: he trashed the website by killing its competitive edge ie US players

bitcoin935: whats the point of bitcoin gambling if it has the same regulations as dollar gambling

bitcoin935: there is IP bans no?

bitcoin935: by doing what using stupid tor?

bitcoin935: bitcoin allowed censored players to play

bitcoin935: thickasthieves new US players cant see the site? or can they

bitcoin935: i want voorhees to buy back my shares after he trashed their value by imposing dollar regulations on his website

bitcoin935: and being a liar and a thief for talking up libertarian values while not practicing them

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu im just upset about it.

bitcoin935: well id like to crack voorhees head open

bitcoin935: will bitbet ever impose US bans ?

bitcoin935: im getting really sick and tired of people in this scene saying one thing and doing another

bitcoin935: voorhees said he was praciticing libertarian values whatever those even are, and then bans the largest gambling population on the planet without telling anyone

bitcoin935: asciilifeform: many people do not use or care to use those

bitcoin935: just want some entertainment

bitcoin935: i feel ok about bitbet but im really pissed off about that pencil necked coward voorhees

bitcoin935: he killed the bids

bitcoin935: by thrashing future revenues

bitcoin935: voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life

bitcoin935: you dont just ban your largest customers for no reason at all

bitcoin935: no it isnt

bitcoin935: at least mircea isnt a coward

bitcoin935: how often is mr voorhees in here?

bitcoin935: MP is out in the open

bitcoin935: thickasthieves: voorhees was out full force touting his libertarian ideas

bitcoin935: and then acts worse then a government

bitcoin935: agreed

bitcoin935: i dont get why these people couldnt keep their mouths shut, nobody was looking at bitcoin on the part of the government but these assholes kept playing with a hornets nest

bitcoin935: why go looking for trouble. bitcoin was ignored by government until these bafoons kept instigating problems

bitcoin935: and US online gambling applies only to actual currencies

bitcoin935: infact if you read the law it says you arent allowed to use credit cards

bitcoin935: theres no actual outright ban

bitcoin935: no i just believe in oldfashioned integrity

bitcoin935: voorhees was openly discussing his libertarian bs and then does the complete opposite

bitcoin935: US gambling laws simply state banks and credit cards are not allowed to transmit funds directly to gaming sites

bitcoin935: there is no ban on online gambling

bitcoin935: thickasthieves i was prepared to take all "event" risk

bitcoin935: but not the management doing the opposite of what they say

bitcoin935: it didnt fail.

bitcoin935: voorhees went against his own word and so called believes

bitcoin935: becuase he was a tax evader in the US is his own problem

bitcoin935: chaang tax issue?

bitcoin935: chaang: my problem was erik voorhees cutting off the largest customer base for SDICE. US customers

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: no im talking about something else

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: erik vorhees talks about being a libertarian and then cuts off the largest customer base for no reason or without consultation

bitcoin935: yes

bitcoin935: which is against what the man says

bitcoin935: and from a legal perspective US players are allowed to gamble online, just banks and credit card companies are not allowed to transmit funds directly to sites

bitcoin935: voorhess is spending his time evading taxes instead of advertising sdice

bitcoin935: yes

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: try to get more?

bitcoin935: voorhees was publicaly announcing his tax evasion as well

bitcoin935: why would he be doing that

bitcoin935: couldnt he keep it to himself?

bitcoin935: 10 million is a joke and a half

bitcoin935: he could have been making 500-1mil a month

bitcoin935: i have money becuase i do not like losing.

bitcoin935: and people that brag about their wealth tend not to have any

bitcoin935: voorhees can buy back my shares

bitcoin935: im glad hes in panama where cops dont exist

bitcoin935: chaang noi yea you have 4million of paper gains.

bitcoin935: big deal so do a huge ammount of adopters

bitcoin935: you are measuring in fiat.

bitcoin935: saying i have 4 million means you have 4 million of cash

bitcoin935: your only worth what you can write a check /produce cash for.

bitcoin935: thanks

bitcoin935: that isnt cash

bitcoin935: you cant spend them

bitcoin935: mircea obsessed with casino?

bitcoin935: go try

bitcoin935: better then goodfellas

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: go take your gold coin and try to spend it at walmart

bitcoin935: you can explain to them what legal tender means

bitcoin935: can you quote the specific law

bitcoin935: where private business/individuals must take something?

bitcoin935: there are no federal laws in the united states forcing you to use legal tender.

bitcoin935: so try again.

bitcoin935: locate the law please

bitcoin935: convenience stores and gas stations for example wont take 50 and 100 dollar bills

bitcoin935: no they wouldnt

bitcoin935: there is NO federal statue or LAW

bitcoin935: requiring a private business to accept

bitcoin935: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx

bitcoin935: please read this and shut the fuck up.

bitcoin935: no its never needed to be accepted.

bitcoin935: if you borrow gold and your contract expects gold repayment

bitcoin935: the debt is settled in gold

bitcoin935: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx

bitcoin935: produce mee the law please

bitcoin935: Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise.

bitcoin935: there is no federal law in the united states requiring you to use or accept fiat money.

bitcoin935: change the subject?

bitcoin935: the government accepts their credit money for tax purposes

bitcoin935: there is no requirement for you to accept it at your place of business

bitcoin935: or to write debts in it

bitcoin935: go spend your gold in walmart

bitcoin935: There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, co

bitcoin935: For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.

bitcoin935: yea go take them to court.

bitcoin935: voorhees is going to get whats coming to him

bitcoin935: sdice is not a legal corporation to use a court

bitcoin935: its the wild west.

bitcoin935: reputation matters

bitcoin935: are you hurt you dont know what you are talking about?

bitcoin935: never made a single threat

bitcoin935: but please continue looking like an idiot

bitcoin935: spending gold coins in walmart lol

bitcoin935: yea you can quote them court laws

bitcoin935: seeing you are an expert on the subject.

bitcoin935: no just an idiot.

bitcoin935: bring your gold eagles to walmart please and tell them they have to accept it by law

bitcoin935: lol.

bitcoin935: europe has mandatory legal tender laws

bitcoin935: the US does not contrary to popular myth

bitcoin935: plenty of laws in europe that require the useage and acceptance of national currency

bitcoin935: chaang why are you still speaking after being discredited?

bitcoin935: well europe has a large and developed black market in many of its countries i think thats whats keeping cash still popular

bitcoin935: the primary reason people accept government money is because its needed to pay taxes in and 2 old habits die hard

bitcoin935: and also business's and households tend to have debts that are settled in government paper

bitcoin935: im talking about acceptance.

bitcoin935: 2 things give the largest bids to government fiat, debt repayment demand and government tax obligations

bitcoin935: people constantly need it to repay debts

bitcoin935: chaang youve been discredited please stay silent.

bitcoin935: have fun taking a bath on your silver/gold

bitcoin935: silver is down what 70% in the last 2 years?

bitcoin935: silver will be in single digits before its ever back to 50

bitcoin935: your the one holding silver not me lol

bitcoin935: silver is about 90% below its 80's highs thats 30 years ago.

bitcoin935: chaang noi your gold is doing great too

bitcoin935: yea the high was $50

bitcoin935: in 80's dollars

bitcoin935: inflation adjusted silver has lost 90%

bitcoin935: it was a good buy for $2

bitcoin935: to flip to the idiots at double digits

bitcoin935: chaang noi you bought in the last 5 years

bitcoin935: thickasthieves: silver has lost 99.99% of its value for the last 1000 years

bitcoin935: so yes it does inflate

bitcoin935: lol sure you did

bitcoin935: yea after the fact its easy to say it

bitcoin935: 0 documented proof

bitcoin935: chaang noi judging by your picture you are a stupid kid

bitcoin935: gold/silver bug no surprise.

bitcoin935: yea rich in asia

bitcoin935: poor everywhere else

bitcoin935: 3rd world?

bitcoin935: agreed

bitcoin935: mhmm

bitcoin935: angry at being discredited

bitcoin935: next thing youll do is try and explain to me how the monetary system works

bitcoin935: lol

bitcoin935: chaang youve been discredited go enjoy the beer

bitcoin935: you deserve it

bitcoin935: your a joke

bitcoin935: you insulted yourself

bitcoin935: i didnt have to say anything

bitcoin935: soon as you said walmart has to take your gold coins

bitcoin935: you made a fool of yourself

bitcoin935: so run along baller

bitcoin935: your probably the local white guy libertarian saving the world from fiat money in asia

bitcoin935: walmart gold

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: leave.

bitcoin935: dont embarass yourself further

bitcoin935: said the US has laws forcing you to use its money

bitcoin935: namworld forget it.

bitcoin935: chaang noi thought he could go to walmart with his legal tender gold coin and they have to accep it for payment.

bitcoin935: after i proved that isnt the case he got upset and started freaking out on how rich he is

bitcoin935: no that was never said. you said they are forced to accept your gold

bitcoin935: there are no legal tender laws forcing private business or individuals

bitcoin935: to accept it

bitcoin935: exactly namworld

bitcoin935: wrong.

bitcoin935: namworld thats wrong.

bitcoin935: the debt has to be denominated in dollars

bitcoin935: it can be denominated in anything on the contract.

bitcoin935: there is NOBODY that has to accept your government fiat

bitcoin935: unless the CONTRACT you made specifies payment

bitcoin935: in fiat.

bitcoin935: do you understand that difference?

bitcoin935: if you made a contract that you owe someone a GOAT

bitcoin935: you are obliged to deliver a goat

bitcoin935: there is no law like that diablo

bitcoin935: they do not have to accept cash

bitcoin935: namworld wrong.

bitcoin935: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx

bitcoin935: This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a

bitcoin935: There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, co

bitcoin935: Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.

bitcoin935: diablo-d3: state fact next time not your retarded myths.

bitcoin935: nobody has to accept cash in the united states for anything.

bitcoin935: there is NO federal law requiring it

bitcoin935: yes

bitcoin935: and DEBTS have to be written on the CONTRACT

bitcoin935: what the debt is denominated in

bitcoin935: diablo fuck off monkey

bitcoin935: go make up laws like you libertards all do

bitcoin935: namworld you keep your filthy french canadian mouth shut too

bitcoin935: fking loser selling VPNs for 2 dollars

bitcoin935: all 3 on ignore.

bitcoin935: hes a loser

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu: are you able to discuss the strategic investor in mpoe?

bitcoin935: read about it on your blog

bitcoin935: so which users do i have to ignore here besides chaang-noi

bitcoin935: anyone recommend a list ?

bitcoin935: i read on those forums that chaang noi was banned before lol no surprise

bitcoin935: anyone that calls themselves "goat" should be bannd

bitcoin935: who is theymos

bitcoin935: forum admin

bitcoin935: benkay you seem like you lack both smarts and capital to be honest. but yes bitbet is the better of the bitcoin gambling sites

bitcoin935: i dont hangout on those shitty forums

bitcoin935: never anything of value on them

bitcoin935: theymos wasnt he involved in some scam too ?

bitcoin935: outside of asicminer has their been a bitcoin business that has made alot of $ that wasnt a scam yet?

bitcoin935: that was a scam

bitcoin935: chaang i read on the forums you fell for that with 40,000 coins

bitcoin935: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119490.0

bitcoin935: He is a trend chaser. Always trying to get in on the next big "money maker". This guy is like one of those infomercial yuppies that try to sell you "HOW TO MAKE MONEY DVD" but all you gotta do is "SEND HIM MONEY FIRST" and you will make a "FORTUNE!"

bitcoin935: lol

bitcoin935: chaang but you were involved in the pirate scam

bitcoin935: wait so the forum mod was an active participant in a fraud?

bitcoin935: so why arent people going after "theymos" and chaang-noi?

bitcoin935: chaang-noi: right so you were actively defrauding people?

bitcoin935: or did both of you not know what was happening

bitcoin935: how did both of you not know 7% a week or whatver was being paid was not a scam?

bitcoin935: lol

bitcoin935: chaang right so youll basically do anything for money

bitcoin935: so if there were other participants clearly encouraging the fraud why doesnt anyone say anything?

bitcoin935: and continue using a fraudster hangout

bitcoin935: chaang yea you seem like a minion of someone else

bitcoin935: he ran a ponzi scheme?

bitcoin935: how did you believe someone could pay 7% a week when the bitcoin monetary supply wasnt even increasing at that rate

bitcoin935: chaang and you were an active participant, hence why dont people say anything about theymos and you

bitcoin935: chaang: yes on tiny ammounts.

bitcoin935: you cant arb 1% a day with the size of pirate

bitcoin935: you know what chaang you are a lowlife please dont use the excuse you didnt know what was happening or you were "working" for someone

bitcoin935: you were encouraging an active fraud

bitcoin935: you were helping them collect peoples bitcoins with those methods

bitcoin935: passthroughs or whatever

bitcoin935: chaang i thought you were just some harmless goof not fraudster

bitcoin935: amazing how people still use a forum run by proven fraudsters

bitcoin935: or still associate with people like you

bitcoin935: i read on the threads

bitcoin935: when i saw your name and that pirate shit

bitcoin935: and some theymos being in it too

bitcoin935: that the guy who scammed you for 50btc

bitcoin935: matthew?

bitcoin935: so you were a little helper too during the pirate thing

bitcoin935: lol amazing

bitcoin935: who is matthew

bitcoin935: why is a known fraudster(chaang-noi) allowed to hangout in this investment chat?

bitcoin935: bagman for theymos

bitcoin935: no thats you

bitcoin935: you were also a bag man

bitcoin935: by helping them out

bitcoin935: thenw hy is chaang-noi in here? hes both a fraudster and a troll

bitcoin935: chaang-noi probably how you accumulated your coins

bitcoin935: mhmm

bitcoin935: chaang noi you were actively participating in a ponzi scheme

bitcoin935: seemed you were desperate for money at that time

bitcoin935: sec?

bitcoin935: how can anyone do anything to you when you are in asia

bitcoin935: you pirate theymos and whoever else were actively running major fraud

bitcoin935: no i just find it strange that people continue to talk to you

bitcoin935: a lowlife scam artist

bitcoin935: chaang i thought you were just a kid trolling around not actually defrauding people

bitcoin935: you must have been desperate in those days

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu so you have no issues with active fraudsters/scam artists hanging around your chat

bitcoin935: chaang i read who you were, a fraudster.

bitcoin935: of course your boss will give you aVIP tag

bitcoin935: chaang you admitted to it. you were theymos bagman

bitcoin935: because he hired you

bitcoin935: well he promised to pay you at the beginning

bitcoin935: of course 1 scammer will scam another lol

bitcoin935: how am i lieing its all over that forum you were actively defending and encouraging people to participate in a ponzi scheme

bitcoin935: <Chaang-Noi> <bitcoin935> chaang-noi: right so you were actively defrauding people? i was paid to do things

bitcoin935: lol

bitcoin935: you admitted to it just 10 min ago man

bitcoin935: chaang noi at least if you are a liar and a denier try to keep it consistent.

bitcoin935: you just said you were paid to do things.

bitcoin935: why are you changing what you just said.

bitcoin935: there is a lengthy paper trail of you actively encouraging/participating in and assisting the pirate fraud chaang-noi.

bitcoin935: lol i liked how chaang-noi tries to cover his involvement in the fraud by pretending he cares that people recieve their $ back

bitcoin935: thickasthieves proof?

bitcoin935: bitpay doesnt have 5million to piss away

bitcoin935: they dont have 5million in free $.

bitcoin935: mircea probably bought his own shares and made a huge seen out of it as mpex was losing marketshare to other exchanges since january

bitcoin935: scene*

bitcoin935: yes and other exchanges have become larger.

bitcoin935: you werent the sharpest knife in the drawer

bitcoin935: can you be a little bit smarter?

bitcoin935: lol shutup

bitcoin935: anyone read the good news that bitpay is no longer using mtgox?

bitcoin935: game247 the options on mpoe are hideously expensive

bitcoin935: expect in what?

bitcoin935: considering bitcoin is highly volatile, options are expensive

bitcoin935: game247 what are you talking about?

bitcoin935: explained the difference?

bitcoin935: game247 are you talking about european vs american expiry?

bitcoin935: youd need to pull up an options calculator

bitcoin935: at least that site doesnt have blockchain dust

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu what happens if you close the browswer after you deposited how does it iknow its your balance?

bitcoin935: whats wrong with gambling

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu what do you think about bitpay removing mtgox quotes

bitcoin935: i think mtgox is under 30% market cap by the end of the year now

bitcoin935: campbx is going to eat all of their US clients

bitcoin935: mircea_popescu: comment on litecoing going on mtgox

bitcoin935: mircea_popscu: no lag?

bitcoin935: amazing how mtgox has an order book at all with that 2 week freeze

bitcoin935: once mtgox goes, peter vessennes and go and gavin too

bitcoin935: bitcoin 1k lol

bitcoin935: its time for him and his team to step down

bitcoin935: satoshi knew his limiations

bitcoin935: limiations*

bitcoin935: limitations*

bitcoin935: and left

bitcoin935: its time for gavin to pass the baton on to a more professional development crew

bitcoin935: hes already been richly rewarded for his time

bitcoin935: lol