mjr___: that may be too advanced for them
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KRS-1: naked teenager chicks..
KRS-1: you have that in Romania no
KRS-1: do you like skrillex? my fav song is voltage
truff1es: i cant find the soundtrack of this series
mjr___: i heard some skrillex at "heaven" in romania :)
truff1es: its like they dont want to make money off the soundtrack :(
kakobrekla: if heaven has asses like dat, imma go baptize myself rite nao
dub: thestringpuller: wtf
dub: that is the second time in 48 hours I've been highlighted with almost the same string
dub: has dubstep just landed in murica or something?
truff1es: dub step sure takes an appreciation
dub: the rest of the world has already relegated it to the tradpit
dub: its normal for the cool kids in murica to lag behind by a few years
dub: skrillex is approx the worst music producer of all time
KRS-1: skrillex is like the godfather of dubstep although some would dispute that
dub: he is nothing like that
truff1es: SKRILLEX - Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites in enjoy that one
KRS-1: dub: what would you say skrillex is to dubstep then?
mjr___: lol, skrillex is in no way whatsoever the godfather of dubstep
mjr___: 'he is an artist producing dubstep music
dub: skrillex scooped up the turd that the godfathers of dubstep left behind when they woke up from teh ketamine hole they had been in when they came up with it
mjr___: you could also say, one of the most popular current dubstep artists
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KRS-1: my bad then..thanks for letting me know. I'll have to read up a bit
KRS-1: at any rate he produces some badass music
mjr___: ugh, the #bitcoin-nyc channel is already created
KRS-1: mjr: most popular thats probably what I should have said
mjr___: the fact that no one is in it, sucks
mjr___: i would like to use that chan, but i want to moderate...
dub: KRS-1: like most music fads its popularity is a wedge
mjr___: i was going to use it for listing trades at the open air exchange
orkaa: this is one of the old tunes
mjr___: also thinking about maybe a twitter feed
KRS-1: Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs he did
mjr___: i plan on going to union square park
truff1es: <KRS-1> voltage pretty cool too, nostalgia..
KRS-1: dub: yes and I'm thankful for the addition to our modern music..some of it is pretty good actually.
dub: how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic
mjr___: i figure, if everyone knows that between 4pm and 6pm monday through friday, you can buy or sell bitcoins at one location
KRS-1: dub: it might be two weeks old to you =) its been around
mjr___: it will bring liquidity to the market
mjr___: what do you guys think?
KRS-1: that fat dude in the bangarang video is a trip
KRS-1: mjr: not a bad idea at all
KRS-1: U might be onto something
mjr___: but the problem is that you have to coordinate times
mjr___: i have a few other people who want to hang out in the park and trade and set markets
dub: dubstep is the retarded cousin of dnb
mjr___: it sounds like someone is torturing computers...and i like it
mjr___: mircea_popescu: what do you think of this idea?
dub: it was concieved purely to make terrible dj's look better and so fat people won't look as out of place ont he dancefloow
truff1es: <dub> how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic >>> the feeling you get when you hear a really cool song
mircea_popescu: i think it sound s a lot like how gay subculture got started :D
mjr___: well...that seems to have taken off pretty well, not a bad model
mjr___: bitcoin eye for the straight guy
mjr___: you think grand central is better?
mjr___: yes, that is why i would be in the park
mjr___: probably a webcam of union square park
mjr___: its my favorite area of NYC, and my office is a block away
mjr___: not to mention the weather is going to be great
mjr___: i figure i can make a decent amount of cash just market making
mjr___: and by cash i mean bitcoins
orkaa: parks are great for buying drugs so bitcoin should work too.. :)
mjr___: union square can be tough for buying drugs
mjr___: in fact, most people just call their dealers...hard to find a vendor with a location LOL
mjr___: i was brokering a $20,000 bitcoin buy today
mjr___: hard to get coins quick
mjr___: some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
mjr___: and needs like 150 btc for his portion
mjr___: but he paid like 148 per
mjr___: think he needs another 50 coins tomorrow
mjr___: so, and this is pretty hilarious, i'm gonna sell yifu's coins to him, so he can pay yifu
mjr___: finally starting to get a good bitcoin sub-culture in nyc
gribble: There are currently 28719.462 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3571691.25347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
mjr___: there are like almost 100 people in the facebook group bitcoinnyc
mjr___: and i hung out at EVR last night
kakobrekla: nice mjr___, must be all cognac and cigars over there
mjr___: charlie shrem's spot where they accept bitcoins
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mjr___: lol, just jameson for me
mjr___: i'm more of a jameson and cigarettes guy than a cognac and cigars guy
Diablo-D3: [08:37:32] <mjr___> some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
dub: nothign wrong with jameson
mjr___: think its 282 mh per chip
mjr___: 10,000 is the minimum to buy
mjr___: and i think they've sold quite a few batches
mjr___: how long to generate 780 btc with 2 terrahashes
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 112.077095651 BTC per day and 4.66987898546 BTC per hour.
gribble: The expected generation output, at 282000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 15.8028704868 BTC per day and 0.65845293695 BTC per hour.
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2820000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 158.028704868 BTC per day and 6.5845293695 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: though remember, those chips are only half the cost
Diablo-D3: still have to fab the boards and mount components
mjr___: yep, he has electrical engineers etc
mjr___: i'm not even sure what his end goal is
mjr___: sell mining rigs? mine all himself?
truff1es: <KRS-1> Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs >>> really enjoyed these *dances*
kakobrekla: mjr___ simple, mine while diff low and sell the hardware then
KRS-1: lol I'm more of a domestic beer, maybe southern comfort and cigarettes kind of guy..the country boy in me
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: heh, Im even questioning my purchase of these asicminer blades
Diablo-D3: Im buying these for my private ownership
Diablo-D3: I currently still have an active bid for 8 of them at 32 BTC each
kakobrekla: oh since when do you have that kind of money :)
KRS-1: truff1es: glad you like..thats what I like most about IRC, getting turned onto something that I would not have otherwise come across.
mjr___: is there news on the asicminer front?
mircea_popescu: they will make maybe half a btc a day, if diff stays put
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: however that translates closer to a year since BFL apparently _is_ shipping
truff1es: KRS-1 do you like Blue Foundation - Eyes On Fire?`
Diablo-D3: thats what the difficulty projections are saying
mircea_popescu: and you won.t even get .5, seeing how next diff is +12%
gribble: Current Blocks: 233657 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 198 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10010787.9429 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.54956
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: Im not sure if I want to sit on that hardware for an entire year
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd be better off waiting for a 28nm product.
KRS-1: ah closer tolerances is higher heat
KRS-1: anyone know if the 51% attack on litecoin is for real or not
mjr___: Butterfly lab for now have the most complete package when talking about power and power consumption <-----LOL
KRS-1: true..but i'm interested, I dont care if its bitcoin, buttcoin, or fuckcoin, if it makes me a buck I'd like to try it.
kakobrekla: wait the point of this is to make a buck?
mjr___: Diablo-D3: i hope to see a 28nm process chip soon
KRS-1: we all have our own interests, whatever turns our crank, namean? I don't think it necessarily makes you a loser if you are not part of the elite or mainstream.
mjr___: that is correct however, as of right now, i don't think BFL consumes any power!
kakobrekla: but i thought bitcoin is like hospital
mjr___: srsly though, if any of these reporters were doing a research project for a freshman high school class, they would fail
mjr___: they can't take the time to plagiarize?
Diablo-D3: mjr___: 28/32 might be coming sometime next year.
KRS-1: thats sick..never thought i'd see that day
KRS-1: they say we'd eventually come down to tolerances close to the size of atoms, although not smaller than an electron, we might have to move to photons or something, although i think photons are bigger than electrons
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: you're conceptualizing it wrong
Diablo-D3: carbon nanotubes can get us below 5nm
Diablo-D3: photons may not have any physical size at all
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KRS-1: but they have mass no?
KRS-1: do you think the future of computing is light
KRS-1: im not so sure rly
Diablo-D3: intel is already experimenting with in chip light pipes
KRS-1: if so we can exploit some advantages of using quantum mechanics
Diablo-D3: although you'd have to figure out how to measure the rest mass of a photon
KRS-1: thats what i was thinking
KRS-1: some very exciting things are happening with light and quantum mechanics
KRS-1: i was blown away when i learned about entanglement
Diablo-D3: anyhow, the size of an electron is about 3 fermi
KRS-1: entanglement showed us that the primary rules of physics are secondary to entanglements..distance and time don't matter
tiberiusiv: why the fuck arent people in here outraged at mirceas second massive monthly loss
KRS-1: ah there we go...so photons do have a size but no mass- that makes much more sense.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: traditionally this is considered true
mircea_popescu: but yes, they probably don't have a size in the classical sense
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it has not been experimentally been proven
KRS-1: they're maybe "in between" mass and energy then..since mass IS energy and vice versa
Diablo-D3: otherwise physics would get very weird
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KRS-1: physics does get very weird in the quantums.
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: well, it has no mass because it moves at the speed of light </high school physics knowledge rape>
Diablo-D3: it DOES however have a limit of how close you can get to it
KRS-1: anyway the future of computing must involve these principles at some point unless we will enter dark ages..no significant discoveries..that would be sad.
KRS-1: that is where i think we will be going when moores law doesnt apply anymore.
truff1es: back to this subject again,quantum computing is far off in the future dont worry
mjr___: not quantum in this convo
KRS-1: they're using quantum computing for encryption atm
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: since quantum space is quantized, we know what the grid size for photons are
mjr___: and yes quantum computing does exist right now... they've gotten 7 qubits
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KRS-1: diablo: amazing..you my friend are very well informed.
mjr___: they were talking about smaller and smaller processes for chips
mjr___: but still traditional chips
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: now the thing is, its not the size of the particle but the size of the pipe
KRS-1: lol thats what SHE said
KRS-1: but yea..thats the hard part.
Diablo-D3: we're reaching the limits of ultraviolet lithography techniques
KRS-1: and managing the heat
mjr___: that is the hardest thing about bitcoin mining
KRS-1: which is the printing board for cpu's right?
mjr___: is that the entire chip is being used, and most chips rely on the fact that some parts can cool while others are hot
KRS-1: they must be massive on the actual design boards
KRS-1: before being shrunk
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: its not really a board, its a very thin wafer
KRS-1: thats where the chip design is actually carved out? I thought it was on these big chalk board looking things that are shrunk to the wafers before the lithography
KRS-1: anyway i'll read up on it- thanks!
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: with current lithography techniques, chemical polishing, and the other processes used to make these chips
Diablo-D3: below that, quantum tunneling becomes an issue
KRS-1: thats where the electrons dont know which path to take or whatnot
Diablo-D3: well, its where they can jump right through material
Diablo-D3: electrons in normal chips could jump 15nm
KRS-1: not sure if the future is indeed bright or if we will eventually lead to a dark age where there is minimal discovery..that kind of bothers me, because we're only improving but not changing
Diablo-D3: so if you're designing these you end up with much larger gaps between the features
KRS-1: perhaps a new novel material
Diablo-D3: also, intel is finishing construction on their 14nm facility in arizona
Diablo-D3: they'll be shipping 14nm products mid 2014 from what I understand
KRS-1: who is right behind them or are they head and shoulders above the competition?
Diablo-D3: they split their fab division off as GloFo
mjr___: amd does design though don't they?
KRS-1: yea i heard that, but they once did i believe
Diablo-D3: mjr___: yes, but they stick with proven technologies
mjr___: diablo why does nvidia suck at mining?
Diablo-D3: they refuse to optimize for integer performance
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: now, samsung, hynix, and toshiba fab chips too
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: they're already working on 14nm processes
joecool: Diablo-D3: quantum tunnelling will be more of an issue at the 10nm process level
Diablo-D3: joecool: I said 14nm is as small as we get because of it
Diablo-D3: joecool: it becomes impossible to design chips at 10nm
Diablo-D3: using existing HSQ and MSQ polymer dielectrics on silicon.
mjr___: Diablo-D3: do you think you could implement the sha-256 algo in a way that would be efficient for nvidia?
Diablo-D3: mjr___: no. and my kernel already implements it as efficient as possible.
Diablo-D3: mjr___: radeons execute integer add, xor, and rot in a single cycle
KRS-1: I dont know much about hynix and toshiba but I bet samsung is doing cool stuff. Hehe thinking back, I was a very big fan of Motorola.
Diablo-D3: nvidia does not do ANY of those in a single cycle
joecool: Diablo-D3: actually intel claimed they might skip 10nm and go to 8nm
Diablo-D3: and rotate is more expensive than add and xor on nvidia
Diablo-D3: joecool: 8nm is the half node size for 10 iirc, so its the same shit anyhow
mjr___: Diablo-D3: i think eventually we will need to use a larger bus, serial is a bottleneck
mjr___: you take 256 clock cycles just to get the hash in over a serial bus
mjr___: and with pipelining, the best you can hope for is one double hash per clock cycle
Diablo-D3: thats not an issue I have to care about
KRS-1: lol never even heard abou tit
KRS-1: but Diablo's got me glued
Diablo-D3: mjr___: and btw, I only upload the kernel arguments once every 2**32 hashes
Diablo-D3: mjr___: and the CUs set up the arguments as shared registers for the entire work group
Diablo-D3: well, 2**32 if I use -f small-enough-number
mjr___: right now we are working on a virtex 6 design
mjr___: so it has a massive amount of block ram
Diablo-D3: IBM has produced a cabon nanotube transitor
KRS-1: thats craziness in itself..
KRS-1: that could take us off on a completely different tangent
KRS-1: nano=extremely small + billions of transistors = CPU no?
Diablo-D3: and some research team from Korea has developed a working FinFET
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: well, nanotech starts at 10nm basically
KRS-1: but nanotube transistors is a deviation from traditional cpu design isnt it
Diablo-D3: you're replacing existing dielectrics with carbon.
joecool: just swapping material, can maintain the design
KRS-1: ah and thus a friction reduction
KRS-1: no friction at that scale?
Diablo-D3: what sort of friction are we talking about here?
Diablo-D3: theres no moving parts in my CPU =P
KRS-1: electrons moving about in a cpu cause friction, heat right?
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KRS-1: ok so bad use of the term but i think you know what im referring to?
Diablo-D3: the reason you decrease feature size is to decrease resistance through less voltage
mjr___: yeah the finfet operated on .7 volts at 28nm
Diablo-D3: mjr___: the korean one Im talking about was much smaller
mjr___: yeah, i was talking about the one from taiwan semi
mjr___: by the way, is asicminer an actual chip or a hardcoded fpga?
Diablo-D3: yeah, avalon is at 90nm, asicminer is at 130nm
joecool: bfl is an avalon with the name ground off
mjr___: thought avalon was 110nm
Diablo-D3: they both licensed existing IP from their fabs and spammed it on their chips with minimal routing and timing wiring
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KRS-1: Diablo: We are getting more clever at improving what we do, but we are not changing how we do it. Example: ever smaller tolerances for CPU design. At some point moore's law will have to break down and not apply. Do you think we will enter a sort of "dark ages" where there will be little, if any discovery for a very long time? Or, do you think there will be great discovery on the
KRS-1: horizon where we will enter a "golden age" of discovery and or "enlightenment"?
mjr___: it depends on whether you think we need constant improvement
Diablo-D3: moore's law was just a really accurate prediction anyhow
KRS-1: whether we need it or not, it will happen
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: what we need is to quit writing software like shit
mjr___: no...if you are asking if we would enter a dark ages
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Diablo-D3: its not the hardware thats the problem
Diablo-D3: protip: STOP USING THREADS, ASSHOLES
joecool: i wish battery technology would move along, that shit hasn't gone anywhere
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Diablo-D3: IBM solved this fucking problem in the late fucking 60s
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Diablo-D3: why the fuck do people keep doing it wrong
KRS-1: Basically, I am asking if we will come to a point where we stop discovering and keep concentrating on improving to the point where we can't anymore. Thus, no new discoveries, no new improvements.
joecool: Diablo-D3: well i don't have a fuel cell in my laptop either
mjr___: KRS-1: if you think science is understanding the universe we live in, then what happens once we understand it all?
Diablo-D3: joecool: graphite supercapacitors have no memory effect, instantly charge, and hold at least 10 times more power than existing shipping tech
Diablo-D3: and yes, I mean charge instantly, you will not be able to provide power to it fast enough.
joecool: well obv, copper wires have a limit
Diablo-D3: it will happily peg a 120v 15a plug.
KRS-1: mjr: I think science is a tool for understanding what we don't..but I don't know once we understand it all..maybe the answer is "42".
joecool: Diablo-D3: yet nothing is at market?
KRS-1: Thanks for the chat Diablo- everyone. I'm going to be doing some followup reading. I appreciate the stimulating conversations.
mjr___: thats my point...it only matters to get better, faster, if you have a reason
Diablo-D3: which btw, Ive predicted the end of the world will be sometime in 2016.
KRS-1: Oh dear, I better cultivate those investments a little more.
kakobrekla: why bother with anything then Diablo-D3
KRS-1: If you don't mind, a couple of sentences on why you think that in a private message would be most appreciated.. I won't reply but I'll follow up with my own research.
Diablo-D3: computes are completely async inside
joecool: kakobrekla: exactly, i'm gonna take up drinking
Diablo-D3: so why write code that requires highly synchronous action
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 cause world will end in 3 years
mjr___: what would you use instead of threads?
Diablo-D3: just make everything concurrent single threaded processes and pipe everything
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: that doesnt explain the last 40 years of programming.
Diablo-D3: seriously, the reason your computer is basically no faster than the 486 you used to have years ago on real world tasks?
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 they thought it was gonna be 2012
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: add 3 and a half years to december 21st 2012.
mjr___: have the best 3 and a half years possible?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: Im not on IRC nearly as much as people think I am
mjr___: IRC is probably my favorite thing
joecool: Diablo-D3: liar, you just move around a ton of channels
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KRS-1: Did you guys feel that too? Diablo...just left.
truff1es: Gloomy Sunday - Billie Holiday would fit..
KRS-1: gimme a min i can come up with something
truff1es: i couldnt think of anything i listen to normally
KRS-1: Ok- I have the perfect one.
mjr___: january wedding avett brothers
KRS-1: This one has Annie Lennox in it, I think its a much better version.
mjr___: or maybe bon iver blood bank
KRS-1: from one of my most fav. movies: American Beauty
KRS-1: goes great on a cold night with misty like rain
truff1es: Don´t let it bring you down- by Annie Lennox, now listening to blood bank
truff1es: its got the kinda sadness im looking for
truff1es: if not for these chatrooms id never encounter all these types of music
mjr___: i figured that is what you were looking for
mjr___: its one of my favorites
mjr___: sad to me meant somewhat melancholy but not necessarily having sad lyrics
KRS-1: Thats what I said earlier truff1es- about chat rooms..Aint it great.
KRS-1: At first I thought- "Its been a while" by Staind, then I thought, nahhh not enough. Need MOAR.
KRS-1: ok I'll keep that in mind.
mjr___: you also might like jose gonzalez's veneer album
KRS-1: checking that out now
mjr___: heartbeats is prob the best song on it
KRS-1: ok just gonna ask u that
mjr___: but there are otherse that are good too
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mjr___: down the line is great
KRS-1: not bad, this is kinda cool mjr
truff1es: José González - Save Your Day, I like
mjr___: i fell in love with a dead boy - antony and the johnsons
mjr___: the prayer is a great song too
mjr___: KRS-1: that is a great video
truff1es: pieces of me thats a great one
truff1es: cant think of the band, might not be the title..
mjr___: wagon wheel - old crow medicine show
mjr___: you don't know how it feels - tom petty
truff1es: reminds me of Phantom of the Opera
mjr___: that is the station i listen to, if you look at its details, you will see all the music choices, which tracks i put in, which artists, and my thumbs up history
mjr___: so that is the best list to show you what i usually listen to...its always evolving, but i think its pretty good
mjr___: and you can listen to samples of each song, to choose what you like
truff1es: too bad it doesnt work for me..
truff1es: id need a proxy or something..
mjr___: oh duh, i didn't realize that you weren't in the US
mjr___: couldn't you just use tor?
mjr___: or would it be too slow for a stream?
mjr___: its a pretty eclectic collection lol
KRS-1: mjr: That station you said you listen to- great stuff.
KRS-1: yeh kind of my taste, although i go all over the place at times.
KRS-1: Johnny Cash: Hurt- is a great song
mjr___: that is why its called god's gonna cut you down radio
mjr___: cuz that was the song i started with
mjr___: then i added in a bunch of other stuff
mjr___: then thumbed up tracks i like
mjr___: so its been learning what i like
truff1es: ive got a mixed taste in music also
mjr___: but it usually works in waves
mjr___: so you'll get maybe a 90's rock wave
mjr___: then maybe an lcd soundsystem type wave
mjr___: then a kinda country guitar wave
KRS-1: truff1es: interesting- I doubt i would ever listen to this, but thanks its got my ear now..hmm.
mjr___: which is kinda nice that it smooths it like that
KRS-1: 90's rock is unreal
KRS-1: i think it might be my fav genre
truff1es: fav song out of the phantom of the opera not of all time
KRS-1: truff1es: same here, i can be all over the place at times..even country, but only the major hits and classics.
mjr___: so my station has rolling stones, violent femmes, pixies, lcd soundsystem, bruce springsteen...its kinda crazy but it works
KRS-1: never heard of lcd soundsystem
KRS-1: 311 was one of my fav 90s rock
mjr___: dear mr. fantasy by traffic is a great song
KRS-1: Gonna check that one out now
KRS-1: not bad..makes me feel like I should have a beer in my hand.
mjr___: all i want is you - U2
mjr___: i've been a big fan of the avett brothers lately
truff1es: do u have to download tor browser?
mjr___: a perfect space is a good song by them\
mjr___: truff1es: no i don't think so
truff1es: i might as well get it for future use
KRS-1: dear mr. fantasy by traffic: WOW
KRS-1: This pings me a bit
KRS-1: THANKS mjr- this is going into the collection
mjr___: hmmm i was thinking of the website that passes through
KRS-1: Its like..a smokey bar song.
KRS-1: Who are they to say the Internet SHOULDN'T be anonymous. Its far too personal as it is.
truff1es: flash and my pc are like enemies
KRS-1: those anonymizer sites are probably even more monitored than as if you don't even use em, but if you just don't want to be known by the server you are contacting then np
KRS-1: two different uses at hand
mjr___: eh, this is just to use pandora overseas
KRS-1: cant use pandora from outside the U.S.?
truff1es: why wont it recognized the update!!
truff1es: do u normally restart after installing flash?
mjr___: not sure, i don't think so...but i don't know
truff1es: i often end up deleting it and reinstalling when needed
mjr___: i'm on windows 7 and flash is installed
mjr___: i have virtual machines for other things
truff1es: anyways this songs great Antony & The Johnsons - I fell in Love with a Death Boy
mjr___: figured you would like it
mjr___: KRS-1: Making Me Nervous - Brad Sucks
truff1es: my tastes somethings are borderline snobbery
mjr___: well, like i said, i figured you wanted a certain level of melancholy
mjr___: probably pretty voices, minor tonality
mjr___: like i said, everything from old appalachian string bands to skrillex
truff1es: omg this person is weird , is it a man?
mjr___: truff1es: he is a gay guy i think
truff1es: im gonna have to come back to the pandora sometime
truff1es: too much going on on my screen
mjr___: did you like les miserables?
mjr___: ann hathaway almost brought tears to my eyes
truff1es: tragedies are prob auto like by me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8000 @ 0.003 = 24 BTC [-]
mjr___: truff1es: do you know of "the magnetic fields"
mjr___: they have a ton of songs you will like i think
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 79 @ 0.32 = 25.28 BTC [-]
KRS-1: if you can recomment their best one or biggest hit
mjr___: specifically look up "papa was a rodeo", "nothing matters when we're dancing", "the book of love"...
mjr___: check it out too KRS-1
KRS-1: ok ill do that now
mjr___: fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead
KRS-1: This is an hilarious video
KRS-1: truff1es I wasnt either but somehow i got to listen to a few of his hits and broadened my horizons..idk how
truff1es: let me relisten to hurt before i say that again heh
KRS-1: exactly..i think thats the song that did it
mjr___: yes, that is my favorite
KRS-1: Magnetic Fields Papa was a Rodeo
KRS-1: nine inch nails did that one
KRS-1: hmm this is interesting mjr
mjr___: it was almost all covers on american IV
KRS-1: similar in style to U2-numb
KRS-1: seems like magnetic fields is an acquired taste
truff1es: the magnetic fields voice is similar
KRS-1: yes sure seems like it
truff1es: have to be in a mood for that..
KRS-1: I've heard fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead..good one
mjr___: i just like this because its beautiful with the black and white video of people dancing back when america still had class LOL
KRS-1: mjr: u might like this
truff1es: i guess this is where our tastes clash
mjr___: hallelujah - jeff buckley ?
KRS-1: stone temple pilots- trippin on a hole in a paper heart This one revvs my engine
KRS-1: is it just me or am I still looking at a rising wedge here..i'm still holding on my orders.
mjr___: oh you will appreciate this KRS-1
mjr___: john mayer? not really
KRS-1: HAHAHA yep thanks lol!
gribble: There are currently 161598.23 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14049360.2934 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0094 seconds
mjr___: i think that was from the network+ practice tests
truff1es: mjr and KRS-1 thanks for all the links, i bid u adieu
KRS-1: it was a pleasure, guys
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9934 @ 0.00069947 = 6.9485 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11695 @ 0.00068747 = 8.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5901 @ 0.00067424 = 3.9787 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.10001, Best ask: 135.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09899, Last trade: 135.10000, 24 hour volume: 26423.91159310, 24 hour low: 129.02000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 134.04095
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.100005 = 1.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.261 = 5.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.24 = 2.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [-]
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00070324 = 4.5007 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: im shocked very shocked by the amount of press btc has gotten
taub: is that mtux? giving the interview on a cyan gymnastic ball
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13858 @ 0.00069366 = 9.6127 BTC [-]
b0n1: KRS-1, what article do you mean?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00069806 = 3.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00070297 = 3.3342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00070377 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32000001 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 90 @ 0.32 = 28.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 408 @ 0.003 = 1.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00070377 = 2.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00070885 = 2.1733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071443 = 1.7146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.000715 = 2.3431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.016 = 0.448 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00069366 = 6.0695 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 81 @ 0.01 = 0.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 89 @ 0.01 = 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: still wondering if I want to bid on those units
b0n1: Diablo-D3, which units?
Diablo-D3: they cant pay for themselves in 2 months anymore
davout: how much are they being sold for ?
Diablo-D3: current bids are heading up towards 40 btc
davout: for which kind of hashrate ?
davout: thanks! i'll have a look
Chaang-Noi: d3 you think that auction will get into the 60s?
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: yes, I just said exactly that in the htread
Diablo-D3: look at the previous auction, it jumped like 30 btc during the last few hours
Chaang-Noi: well time will tell but id make a bet we dont go into the 60s :)
Diablo-D3: its probably not going to clear 70
Chaang-Noi: mp that guy in finland just bought 700 more btc at 134.5 he said
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i wonder what his average buy in price is
Chaang-Noi: but still, long term i bet he does well
mircea_popescu: well it's impossible to know. if he were sane then i'm sure he'd do well. has a silver business or w/e, bought some btc, sounds good
Chaang-Noi: i sold him the coin, i wanted to call his bluff, i did not think he had the fiat
Chaang-Noi: so we will see if the fiat comes in, if not lu;z will be had
Chaang-Noi: he is going to send first, if/when i get the money i send btc
mircea_popescu: it's funny cause that's the first roast beast i've seen with the hair still on.
Chaang-Noi: so either he does send and we ahve a good trade or he does not send and i make some lulz
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: s/roast beast/long pig/
Chaang-Noi: You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/133475342584.jpg on this server.
Chaang-Noi: Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Chaang-Noi: im happy he is sending directly to me in thailand
Chaang-Noi: its synamic, or changes or what not, but i doubt many people here in thailand post on your blog
Chaang-Noi: not a big deal, but your site rejects me about 255 of the time for some odd reason
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: since when did you enjoy cannibalism art?
PsychoticBoy: so whats up with the insane amount of btc ppl paying for ASICMINER eruptor blades??
DiabloD3: Im a stock holder and Im happy
PsychoticBoy: I have 500 shares and I am happy only thing is, they (the buyers ) are stupid
Chaang-Noi: am should sell as many as they can now before bfl fixes their shit
PsychoticBoy: but why should someone pay 40+ btc for a 10Gh/s miner? does it mean I can sell my 15Gh/s farm for 60+ btc? dont think so
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.297 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: asics as ytou know are awesome cuz energy use
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: well... that finland guy is suposidly sending me 1`00k with no paperwork
Scrat: any loan over 100 btc should require sexual favors for life
Chaang-Noi: i guess i just dont know enought about bitcoin 24
davout: it's actually noon in europe
davout: oh, sorry you weren't talking about europe
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu was last awake around the time Game of Thrones was on
Scrat: thestringpuller: it was a good ep
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10629 = 0.5315 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: another reason not to use python
thestringpuller: But it takes a long time to learn, and a long time to use.
DiabloD3: although rust is looking pretty nifty
thestringpuller: You probably love C because it's more granular to optimize no?
Scrat: he loves C because he is into BDSM
Scrat: no other reason really
DiabloD3: I like C because it doesn't enforce broken behavior
DiabloD3: although I _really_ wish I didn't have to basically ignore the libc
DiabloD3: too much stuff written in C is thread safe
Scrat: i don't know why would anyone code in C anymore, unless they absolutely had to
DiabloD3: Scrat: because all other languages suck
DiabloD3: evernote:///view/30460238/s248/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.016 = 0.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0164 = 0.1312 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: there, find me a language that does all of that
KRS-1: some of this would be blasphemy in to java
DiabloD3: yes, java is one of those languages that are wrong.
KRS-1: so are a lot of the java developers i've had to work with
Scrat: I think there are more important matters, for example why the fuck would you have to use an external lib to have simple things like hash maps?
Scrat: hurrr static typing
KRS-1: like..you hack code for a living?? really? never seen such people that don't take pride in their code in my life
DiabloD3: Scrat: well, with C, I'm working on a library that isnt just fucking shit.
KRS-1: where I work I have to support dev teams..some of the crap I've seen will make you cringe.
KRS-1: C is amazing..and been around a while..probably will be.
KRS-1: I never could grasp assembly though
KRS-1: its too primitive for me
Scrat: it will be around forever, probably like 90% of internet infrastructure is written in C
Scrat: DiabloD3 just had an embolism when I added the ++
Scrat: he is also a boost hater, and I'll agree with him there
Scrat: but it's needed to cover the suck
KRS-1: haha u have a cool way of putting things
DiabloD3: Scrat: thats why you dont use a shitty language to begin wtih
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00069685 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00069366 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: 28 years? the last time i heard about that or a differnt story they only got 2 years each
jurov: i like C. Except for string operations where I need pen and paper to visualize where the pointers end up.
jurov: wtf is "juvenile-prison developer"?
jurov: oh, there is such a vocation in US nao?
Chaang-Noi: that page wont load for me, but im going to guess this is in the usa?
jurov: Chaang-Noi: just wait, takes time
Chaang-Noi: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Chaang-Noi: HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
Chaang-Noi: i heard about this but thought the judges only got 2 years
Chaang-Noi: i saw a documentry on the prision system of the usa and they had a bit on this place
Chaang-Noi: one boy got 10 months for tossing a steak at his dad
KRS-1: wtf i was dead wrong on market price everything i looked at told me it was supposed to go down
KRS-1: i was seeing bouncing cat at first then rising wedge..this must be hype?
KRS-1: so mid day dip maybe
Chaang-Noi: there is a lot and lot of money pouring into btc now
Chaang-Noi: also i just sold 700 btc so there is that too:) it goes up if i sell
KRS-1: thanks a lot chaang-noi :P
KRS-1: no biggie i've been doing ok
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.50000, Best ask: 142.96302, Bid-ask spread: 0.46302, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 38895.80757496, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.06785
Uglux: you sold 700 coins to rpietila? ^^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069113 = 6.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00069036 = 0.863 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.00072 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1199 @ 0.00067649 = 0.8111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000651 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 466 @ 0.003 = 1.398 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00991 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.009901 = 0.3366 BTC [-]
gribble: targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.000651 = 0.0163 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 11295.425 bitcoins offered at or under 151.0 USD, worth 1664369.15133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
gribble: There are currently 27969.246 bitcoins demanded at or over 122.0 USD, worth 3617338.10143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.3214 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.002755 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Explosion shakes central Prague, as many as 40 injured
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.32440, Best ask: 143.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57560, Last trade: 143.32440, 24 hour volume: 42689.49700892, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.99000, 24 hour vwap: 136.88480
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.013 = 0.078 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.11110, Bid-ask spread: 0.00110, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47306.16273368, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 146.56373, 24 hour vwap: 137.70079
kakobrekla: 145 leads to 150 which leads to 160 which leads to 170
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell Namworld please pm when you have a couple minutes, thanks!
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00067147 = 7.2922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42006 @ 0.00068157 = 28.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15508 @ 0.00068592 = 10.6372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27935 @ 0.00069141 = 19.3145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069621 = 8.6678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2101 @ 0.00069808 = 1.4667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4811 = 4.811 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.4812 = 16.842 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.482 = 5.784 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.32 = 9.28 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.34300, Best ask: 146.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65699, Last trade: 146.99999, 24 hour volume: 58139.03194207, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 139.47241
gribble: MtGox lag is 19.402332 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0388820560887 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 55.095492 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110410749088 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
error4733: Monday shitstorm !! Goooooooooo ! i need more cheap coin !
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.963318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00193047848615 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
error4733: always a little hope when i see 1m lag !
gribble: There are currently 4.4809135e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20282289.5227 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9629 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.010025 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010025 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.010026 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
davout: kakobrekla: you found how to wake mircea_popescu up
kakobrekla: heh, i shared my access and apparently their site doesnt work with chrome but it works with ie
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22799 @ 0.00069808 = 15.9155 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: A maximum of 2 positions may be opened in both directions. This is not recommended unless it is part of a hedging strategy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14433 @ 0.0007083 = 10.2229 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Even after seven years of nonstop media hype, only 16 percent of Internet users tweet, the same as the percentage of 14-49-year-olds who have genital herpes. The difference being that the latter are not proud of their affliction, while the former never shut up about theirs.
kakobrekla: gential herpes is more successful than twitter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7798 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
lippoper1: and genital herpes has no advertisements
orkaa: should I safely assume that no one on twitter has genital herpes?
orkaa: that would be liberating to hear
DiabloD3: wait I wonder if Im on that list
DiabloD3: seeing as I am an independent analyst for the bitcoin community
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i have no idea how i forgot this one
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-ar;#bitcoin-otc-africa;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev;#gribble
DiabloD3: seriously, like, Ive gotten emails from people from a dozen major sites over the last month
DiabloD3: trying to clarify points for upcoming bitcoin stories
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5ea2c50bc98b76e6ca36337ca6830abc919267f94dd8780773123bda
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
DiabloD3: nanotube: add #bitcoin-assets to that list of authentication channels
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Luke-Jr has changed from 1 to -1.
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: you know what that cunt did recently?
DiabloD3: because I was telling the truth about BFL when someone asked me
mircea_popescu: i'm all for it, the bfl/gigavps/lukeetc troop wish to be publicly humiliated,
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of public humiliation to drown them in.
DiabloD3: I dont even care if they ship anymore
mircea_popescu: the only thing people fail to graps in time is that i am not done when they can't take it anymore,
DiabloD3: asicminer is in the process of dealing with their 200TH batch
DiabloD3: the 200TH will be sold, shipped, and mining by the time BFL starts shipping en masse
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00070612 = 2.1191 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: I think I may just wait for the next round
Luke-Jr: ;;rate mircea_popescu -2 Delusional troll. I wouldn't trust him with a penny.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -2 to -2.
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
error4733: 75 btc for first #, expect 45/55 for this one
lippoper1: Luke-Jr, is that the guy calling litecoin 51% attacked?
mircea_popescu: or w/e, sold it after driving it into the ground/gave it away/we.
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
Scrat: you already authed
DiabloD3: Im already authed so I dont give a fuck.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
gribble: Nick 'DiabloD3', with hostmask 'DiabloD3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net', is identified as user Diablo-D3, with GPG key id 85C235C280C197A4, key fingerprint 16D15E73E75E4BF688E4F2A685C235C280C197A4, and bitcoin address None
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I know about that, what about it?
lippoper1: you're the one starting that thread, what do you know about it? or where can i read up on it?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Luke-Jr has been recorded.
lippoper1: i said poor Luke-Jr, cause mircea said you lost your pool or something
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Luke-Jr!~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49 . User luke-jr, rated since Sat Feb 5 10:37:04 2011. Cumulative rating 12, from 67 total ratings. Received ratings: 53 positive, 14 negative. Sent ratings: 49 positive, 26 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=luke-jr Luke-Jr: lippoper1: not at all, it's running great; I just don't have time for it, so I passed it on
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Diablo-D3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net . User Diablo-D3, rated since Mon Apr 25 11:54:20 2011. Cumulative rating 10, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 7 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 1 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I didn't start that thread..
Luke-Jr: no, I didn't know it existed until you said something lol
Diablo-D3: because lol supa thinks I can ban people on bitcointalk
Scrat: nanotube, and he won't remove ratings
gribble: Nick 'PsychoticBoy', with hostmask 'PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy', is identified as user PsychoticBoy, with GPG key id 06DC71AFE4DAC520, key fingerprint 9E476C16F877E988110787BC06DC71AFE4DAC520, and bitcoin address None
Diablo-D3: nanotube: remove the ratings from luke and supa.
Scrat: he won't and he never has. it's against his policy
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy . User PsychoticBoy, rated since Tue May 1 12:39:15 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PsychoticBoy Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: remove the ratings yourself
Diablo-D3: really? you +q'ed me in mining because I told the truth about BFL being a scam
Luke-Jr: well, supa's ratings are probably lies too, but not my concern
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: because you lie
Diablo-D3: even if they ship now, its too late
Diablo-D3: they cant undo the fact they're a scam
Diablo-D3: they can ship thousands of TH, and its too late
mircea_popescu: that's quite besides the point anyway. bitcoin mining isd about mining.
Luke-Jr: and they never were a scam
mircea_popescu: whether he's an idiot or not, Diablo-D3 still is part of bitcoin mining.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: doesn't give him the right to slander others
Luke-Jr: I already told Diablo-D3 I'd remove the +q if he promised to stop that
Diablo-D3: how is it slander? I asked BFL repeatedly to prove there was development going on
mircea_popescu: no, you don't have the "right" to come up with offences.
ThickAsThieves: what do youc all sitting on people's money for a year, if not a scam?
mircea_popescu: whoever perceives they were "Slandered" is welcome to go to the courts.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: BFL has no obligation to prove anything to you
mircea_popescu: that's where slander has a meaning. here, it's meaningless.
Diablo-D3: if BFL wants the community's money yes they fucking do
Diablo-D3: as a founding member of this community, I have a fucking right to ask the questions.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: you don't represent the community
mircea_popescu: this is a little ridiculous, we're arguing with some random lunatic who got a sandwich
mircea_popescu: so now he's going to what, spend his worthless time barking.
Diablo-D3: see, this is why I put people on ignore
lippoper1: they're jalapenos are nothing more than 6 fpgas running together
Scrat: this is so good, waiting for tiberiusiv to join in
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: 6 FPGAs don't use 30 W
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 he'd be on my ignore but normally he has the sense to stfu here so i never bothered.
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 whats the point, its the end of the world in 2016 isnt it so?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: I was kidding about that.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, but everyone forgets to add 3.5 years on top of that
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: also, my ASIC runs at 28 Gh/s, explain that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the reign of satan will be 3.5 years, as long as jesus's ministry
mircea_popescu: to quote missy-pr, This thread is epic. Calling all neckbeards (jgarzick, gmaxwell, puke-jr &co): YOU FAIL
mircea_popescu: This is because you suck. You're not good enough. The only option you have is exactly how much public humiliation comes with your failure.
lippoper1: i want a youtube video of the whole thing running, no hidden cables, no hidden outlets
lippoper1: no cables that run off the field of view
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hows this, pay me a thousand BTC, Ill just create a better coin
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: too bad, I don't have the time to get anywhere near that clean
mircea_popescu: this one is fine. so various idiots inexplicably think they matter in the contexrt. so ?
Diablo-D3: because BFL morons wont be able to mine on it.
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu has more BTC than dollars.
lippoper1: i just want to see a non edited video of the thing in action
ThickAsThieves: i'm skeptical that mp doesnt have plenty fiat to match
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: there's plenty of those on the web now
lippoper1: and you follow the cables, haven't seen that in any of the 'unboxing' and whatnot videos
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: enmaku even has a teardown video
lippoper1: in exchange they gave you an ASIC?
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: then by all means, post the fucking URL.
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I bought my ASICs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.199199 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: screw you, learn to google
lippoper1: sure, but yet you don't have any proof of it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1992 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: but you're the one claiming it exists
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: it does. proving it to you is not my problem.
Diablo-D3: Nice Christian attitude there, bud.
Luke-Jr: I couldn't care less if you believe it or not.
Diablo-D3: dude, I have a DiabloCoin ASIC miner
Diablo-D3: and I havent even written DiabloCoin yet
lippoper1: oh you don't believe me, that's too bad, it's not my burden to provide you proof
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: yep, I don't believe you. too bad.
lippoper1: fine Luke-Jr., I don't have to prove it to you
Luke-Jr: I'll just go on not believing you.
lippoper1: but don't call me a liar or a scam artist for taking everyone's money for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you know whats funny?
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: the difference is, the proof of BFL's ASICs exists. Diablo-D3 is just too lazy to look in obvious places for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I wrote DiabloMiner, con ported it to C as cgminer, then Luke-Jr forked it because con didnt want to merge his shitty patches
lippoper1: I've looked at the so called proof
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: in other words, Luke-Jr's only fame relies on code I wrote.
lippoper1: i don't believe it, because they have hidden cables running behind the fucking laptop
mircea_popescu: ya well. the hope is that after another decade or so of getting people coffee he learns to code.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: that will probably never happen
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: fine, then don't believe it. your problem, not mine.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: really, the best programmers in the world all started young
lippoper1: either wya, it doesn't bother me one bit
kakobrekla: am i still a neckbard if i shave, just like you can be a chinese and a nigger.
Luke-Jr: I'm 28, and have been programming since 6 or 7
Diablo-D3: so why the fuck do you still suck at it?
mircea_popescu: how long since you've not been taking your pills would be more interesting.
ezdiy: mp, didnt know you host a talkshow for neckbeards :(
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: ask luke about the catholic church
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: only delusional people such as yourself have pills
Diablo-D3: <luke> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he must have a fucking phd in that
lippoper1: ok, Diablo-D3, since you're amazing and all, can we start DiabloCoin?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000651 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, probably Ill use scrypt correctly
Scrat: mircea_popescu: don't think there are any rednecks here
Diablo-D3: proof litecoin sucks dick: you can mine it on gpus.
Scrat: lippoper1: I've been saying this for months... someone with a clue needs to start an altcoin
Scrat: might as well be diablocoin
Diablo-D3: Scrat: Im seriously considering it
Diablo-D3: Im just not sure I want to sink that much time into it
lippoper1: scrypt is cool but can't we just mine that with GPUs now?
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, litecoin uses scrypt wrong
Diablo-D3: but yeah, I want to see a return of cpu mining
Diablo-D3: make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
kakobrekla: BFL Bitcoin ASIC Teardown, related: How to make caramel
ezdiy: Diablo-D3: timekoin >:)
Diablo-D3: ezdiy: but only the Doctor would have a use for that
ezdiy: 17:32 < Diablo-D3> make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
ezdiy: fills the bill tho
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: you should use my altcoin
Diablo-D3: Im probably going to name it after a planet
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves: newcoin isn't taken yet
Diablo-D3: probably something lol like MarsCoin
BTCOxygen: Luke-Jr: Whats the name of your altcoin?
Diablo-D3: software written explicitly for upcoming mars colonization missions
ezdiy: Luke-Jr uses religious names
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: yep, the very first one ever
Diablo-D3: rewards will be low and never decrease
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:07:45] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 1 | New rating: luke-jr > -1 > diablo-d3 | I advanced him 8 BTC in exchange for 16 BTC worth of shares in the DMC IPO. But in conversation lately, he's been exceedingly dishonest, so I dunno..
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:10:56] <+gribble> New rating | Diablo-D3 > -10 > Luke-Jr | Known troll.
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: yeah, and luke still owns those DMC shares too
Diablo-D3: actually, lets just call it peniscoin
Diablo-D3: if we're going to troll, might as well push it up to 11
Diablo-D3: but yeah, we clearly need a silver to go with bitcoin's gold
Diablo-D3: it never took off and it has no value
lippoper1: And we definitely need a Baryllium to the silver and gold coins
ezdiy: i think you need decent following to start a coin, so basically only contenders are RpiCoin and MPCoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11302 @ 0.00068056 = 7.6917 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: constant inflation, but the % of inflation decreases over time
Diablo-D3: use of network coding techniques to decrease the time of data dissemination
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2785 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2787 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: no, I save eating pussy for dessert.
imsaguy: So what happens when bfl finally starts shipping in any sort of recognizable quantity
Uglux: this is not a tech race (yet) more a delivery time race
Diablo-D3: [11:50:53] <imsaguy> will it kill asicminer?
Diablo-D3: asicminer will have 200th in customer's hands before bfl starts shipping en masse
Diablo-D3: if anything, BFL might as well just declare bankruptcy right now
Diablo-D3: and they're already working on a next generation process
Diablo-D3: friedcat is going to be mad with me now =/
Uglux: INSIDER TRADING :>
imsaguy: Well, they'd be stupid to not be working on a next generation process
lippoper1: seriously Diablo, you need to make the new altcoin
Uglux: will you guys buy alibaba stocks?
lippoper1: please put Feathercoin out of its misery
Diablo-D3: I keep hearing people talk about that
lippoper1: there is no improvement or anything else to it.
lippoper1: yes, that's why i'm serious about you making a serious altcoin
lippoper1: with the support of the community and some actual improvements over what litecoin does now, i think it would take off eventually
lippoper1: these clones of litecoin like feathercoin/novacoin are a joke to me
lippoper1: butterflylabs support forum golden quote of the day: "at this point I think it's safe to expect my jalapeno could arrive around the same time as the rapture and the second coming of Christ."
ThickAsThieves: if you want a good altcoin, you need a good name, minimal pre-mining, GPU mining, and support from at least one decent exchange
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: you know whats funny? the rapture is not supported by the bible
jurov: Luke-Jr: if BFL is real, why no one buys difficulty future anymore?
ThickAsThieves: it also wouldnt hurt to ding the confidence of litecoin somehow
jurov: the prices are below bfl pudits estimations.
jurov: or, let's agree about collateral and undercut me, go on
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.95000, Best ask: 143.96799, Bid-ask spread: 0.01799, Last trade: 143.96800, 24 hour volume: 65651.97862618, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.87244
jurov: ThickAsThieves, they are covered only up to 0.14 btc (no one knows for sure, tho)
jurov: so, not so much attractive
ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying your pricing is unreasonable, so much as priced perfectly above the likely hashrate
gribble: Current Blocks: 233770 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 85 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10068449.7588 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.19208
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10068449.7588 based on data since last change | 10600052.17 based on data for last three days
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.80000, Best ask: 143.92220, Bid-ask spread: 0.12220, Last trade: 143.80000, 24 hour volume: 65712.09897859, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.88260
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
jurov: and i'm selling iDiff-E for 26m satoshi only
jurov: shhhh ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: there will be a about 5 diff changes before the 19th (excluding tomorrow's maybe)
jurov: yes, i'll prolly update it tomorrow
Chilca: mircea_popescu: good morning
Chilca: do not understand what you sent me
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43990000 / 0.467525 / 0.48200000 (144 shares, 67.32360002 BTC), 7D: 0.40001000 / 0.45536846 / 0.49750000 (1346 shares, 612.92594387 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40162429 / 0.61488800 (6309 shares, 2533.84767053 BTC)
Chilca: mircea_popescu: Great, will read it now!! thanks for share it.
jurov: trying to figure out, did not use it before
orkaa: i see a slovenian page
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 648 @ 0.00067673 = 0.4385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7799 BTC [+]
jurov: it's multinational, CFDs trading.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16019 @ 0.00068914 = 11.0393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43417 @ 0.0007083 = 30.7523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23566 @ 0.00071 = 16.7319 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86998 @ 0.00071 = 61.7686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6723 @ 0.000715 = 4.8069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4353 @ 0.00071588 = 3.1162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00071598 = 12.6728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00071609 = 3.9714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00071814 = 1.0054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.492 = 0.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00072 = 5.904 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 10 @ 0.36831645 = 3.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 5 @ 0.49704849 = 2.4852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00072 = 21.2249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 463 @ 0.000651 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 27 @ 0.003 = 0.081 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: ThickAsThieves> why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
Diablo-D3: about an hour until the auction is done
Diablo-D3: I still may consider bidding on a single unit
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: LOTS of snipes last time
Diablo-D3: it was above 70 for all of the 10 boards
mircea_popescu: " changing your pass w/o the need of need to know the current one" da fuck ?!
Diablo-D3: I think it might make it into the 60s
ThickAsThieves: i like how he's including a free rack with purchase of 10
ThickAsThieves: firedcat was all like OMG when he saw those guys running theirs flat on a table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00072 = 8.1029 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00072 = 72 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: actually, that was because of me
Diablo-D3: I said in the thread I'd consider continued bidding if I get a rack if I bid on 10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: but prices are just way beyond what Im willing to bid on
error4733: ok take those $70k but give me a rack
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.27000, Best ask: 141.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 141.27000, 24 hour volume: 68300.17959196, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.22923
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.C140T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048']
ThickAsThieves: how did this happen: [08:58] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
lippoper1: Diablo what auction, what's for sale?
mircea_popescu: Bang With Friends, the popular app that helps facilitate one-night stands with your Facebook friends, is reportedly raising a ~$1 million seed round, according to Business Insider.
lippoper1: 7. Is the blades compatible with P2Pool?
lippoper1: Our blades implements only the diff 1 getwork protocol. So p2pool is possible, but should be with proxies.
lippoper1: Wtf, does that mean it doesn't support stratum ;-)
lippoper1: cheapest blade available is at 41.5/42
lippoper1: that's like a lifetime to break even
topace: yea each blade is 10gh
lippoper1: only 3 months to pay off if network difficulty remained the same
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4554 = 2.277 BTC [-]
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
error4733: The next auction's most probably on USB stick miners, in a week. (the 300mhz type. Tongue)
error4733: Be rest assured that the blades aren't coming again so soon. Smiley
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10099802.9685 based on data since last change | 10607627.5042 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00072 = 5.9098 BTC [+]
ll: ;;genrate 10000 10099803
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10099803.0, is 0.497936956227 BTC per day and 0.0207473731761 BTC per hour.
topace: Diablo-D3: are you buying some blades? seems pricey at only 10GH for 45+ BTC
Diablo-D3: topace: I have no active bids on that
topace: very politically correct answer...
topace: going to bid with 3 seconds to spare? :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.276334 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I could reasonably make back 30 BTC in 2 months no matter how fast BFL ships units
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: waitll you see how absurd budding gets for the USB miners
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 37 @ 0.00338 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I wonder if anyone makes a powered usb hub that can handle high power requirements
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8318 @ 0.00072251 = 6.0098 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: those I'd probably do a blanket bid on all of them 1 BTC each
Diablo-D3: that does 0.5 amps per plug for all 7
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.000725 = 18.125 BTC [+]
Uglux: how long does friedcat usually need for a share transfer?
Diablo-D3: Uglux: usually before the next dividend payment
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00338 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
Uglux: its the goldrush :)
mircea_popescu: ddue wtf, a 10gh itam is never mining two full blocks.
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
PsychoticBoy: lets say 0.5 a day for the next 2 weeks, after that 0.45 btc for 2 weeks hmmmn
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00338 = 0.338 BTC [+]
louong: but you get them now vs. (unknown time) with Avalon/BFL
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: was it you that said we wouldnt cross 50?
louong: part of the price includes the certainty
lippoper1: did you also lose them day trading?
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: why should I have more?
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: no, I sold 371 shares of ASICMINER
lippoper1: You're a great part of the community, I would just assume you probably had more than 480'ish
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.276334 = 2.5527 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: I dont buy BTC, but I accept donations.
lippoper1: well, when you make our new Alt Coin, i will donate some DiabloCoins to you
ThickAsThieves: loppoper1, support your community send us all donations
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2768 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: DiabloMiner probably hasnt even paid for itself
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.278 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: if you realize that a programmer with my skills could get paid $100+/hr
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I dont IRC as much as I used to
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its not that I dont work
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its just I dont like working as a programmer fulltime
PsychoticBoy: I have a day time job although I dont need one
Diablo-D3: bosses tend to not understand the art
joecool: you just diversify your channels on IRC more to make it look like you talk less (but in reality you just talk more in more places)
lippoper1: That's why you need to program something you love
lippoper1: like a new Alt Coin with its own proprietary miner
Diablo-D3: well, my alt coin would be cpu only
PsychoticBoy: one blow and all your feathercoins are gone lol
lippoper1: you can't even keep them in a pillowcase without them flying out somehow
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
benkay: bosses want like 40 hours per week out of programmers
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.285 = 5.14 BTC [+]
benkay: but I find an upper limit on my creative productivity at like 32
Diablo-D3: I program _more_ than 40 hours a week
benkay: you probably also spend more time programming than I do
Diablo-D3: dont expect me to be doing anything than thinking about the problem for that.
benkay: i spend most of my time learning
Diablo-D3: btw, Ive found something rather productive
lippoper1: let's make an alt coin with some benefits
lippoper1: that sounds like a great Diablo programmer task
Diablo-D3: benkay: I subscribe to the perl hubris type of school
benkay: that's why i'm diving into clojure
Diablo-D3: why code it wrong 4 times when you can code it right once
Diablo-D3: seriously, if your code has bugs you probably didnt think enough
ThickAsThieves: that approach probly works better with coding than with life
benkay: i'm at a point in my development where i need to fail and iterate rapidly
benkay: in my development development :)
Diablo-D3: like, Ive been trying to make a very fast malloc for single threaded apps
lippoper1: I sit there and I think about it for 90% of the time
Diablo-D3: I keep whamming right into KISS hard
benkay: did you grow into being able to see the right approach? or were you always a 90% think, 10% crank guy
lippoper1: then I just come to the conclusion that with the remaining 10% of the time I will not be able to do it to the best of my ability and move on
Diablo-D3: benkay: I kind have always been that
Diablo-D3: I'll rapidly iterate multiple designs during the 10% though
benkay: Diablo-D3 how long have you been at it?
Diablo-D3: Ive been doing C for like 15 years
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
benkay: coming up on mastery, it sounds like
benkay: do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
benkay: how was your process different then?
truff1es: <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30>>>> hmmm
ThickAsThieves: i was programming qbasic when i was in highschool, and some pascal, it was useful to learn coding concepts, especially since i got into web design after, but coding is much too tedious for me
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]
benkay: that was directed at Diablo-D3
benkay: buuuut, ThickAsThieves, what kind of brain *do* you have? where do you pull the currencies in from?
ThickAsThieves: surely we dont need to turn this into more of a circle jerk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8490998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.84909999 = 9.2455 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [02:44:44] <benkay> do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
Diablo-D3: benkay: I was programming before that, C wasnt my first language
Diablo-D3: I dont remember much of programming back then
Diablo-D3: [02:44:37] <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000725 = 10.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86979999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.285 = 7.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
lippoper1: (2:55:05 PM) Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
Uglux: what is this? prison chat?
Diablo-D3: damnit, john k is still tallying those bids
Diablo-D3: THE SUSPENSE IS… well, not really doing anything for me at all. I get dividends no matter what.
Diablo-D3: I just wanna know if that 53 btc bid went through
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000725 = 7.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9 = 5.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.94 = 11.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.95 = 9.75 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.79999, Best ask: 142.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 142.81200, 24 hour volume: 70443.15925752, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.37852
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.96 = 19.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 3 @ 0.36016613 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.305 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 2 @ 0.6489861 = 1.298 BTC [-]
Uglux: mike is a good eater
kakobrekla: the title should be bitcoin for kindergarden kids
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00072584 = 0.9073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00315598 = 13.4129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.462 = 0.924 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00073602 = 2.3876 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The reason ZIGGAP is not currently up is because my competition has been selectively scamming me. You see the following organizations are all ran by the same group of organized crime and money launderers:
mircea_popescu: this makes a nice narrative. dwolla was created just to ach money through bitinstant before coinbase came about, all the while being in cahoots with mtgox and btcjam.
mircea_popescu: you know who else is in cahoots with mtgox ? bitme and localbitoins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.457 = 0.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003389 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
benkay: how is lbtc in bed with gox?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00355 = 0.071 BTC [+]
ezdiy: so to get in the secret bitcoin market cabal one has to sell out half of the company, hmm
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3348 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
dub: I need some form of merit badge
dub: I'm the scam whisperer
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.199 = 0.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4611 = 2.3055 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 235 @ 0.01004 = 2.3594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.000725 = 10.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.305 = 22.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00338 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
rikur: ThickAsThieves: agreed
rikur: both should be resolved
rikur: I only have a small vote on the May one :)
rikur: very risky bet, but seems like it paid off
ThickAsThieves: they do appear to have shipped more than just testing units
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.3045 = 13.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.305 = 11.745 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what's the take away. the dazzling display of paranoia
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3099 = 2.6198 BTC [+]
deadweasel: it's really thick on that post. somebody is using too many drugs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30997 = 13.0997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: or the fact that bitcoin "businesses" and "infrastructure" are so shitty someone could end up with the impression he's being targetted
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30998 = 13.0998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.312499 = 3.9375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3199 = 39.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
deadweasel: an unhealthy dose of paranoia and a shitty infrastructure = ranting and raving.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32475 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [+]
jurov: fine till you arrived
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: I got a distinctly manic response from him when I asked his wife about the legality of her internet bakery
truff1es: why r u asking wifes anything...
rikur: ThickAsThieves: the product page has never mentioned any wattage, just GH/s. I pre-ordered products twice and never saw wattage mentioned anywhere, so if you ask me the No voters are just coming up with excuses.
dub: mircea_popescu: this was 6 months or so back, I assumed there was a train wreck coming at that point
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.9011 = 26.6154 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: rikur, I could swear that there used to be power specs on the page, also that the advertised GHs used to be higher for some products
ThickAsThieves: however even if so, what's advertised now, is still techincally meeting the terms of the bet text
ThickAsThieves: as it does not specify which specs advertised would be used
mircea_popescu: i think it was said a thousand times that a. specs are hash and power and b. the specs at the time of the bet count
ThickAsThieves: does that mean if specs were changed in the advertisment before the newer bets, that those specs will be referred to?
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067147 / 0.00070786 / 0.00073602 (795906 shares, 563.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00069667 / 0.00073762 (2506507 shares, 1,746.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069187 / 0.00073891 (10333478 shares, 7,149.47 BTC)
jborkl: they, since last year- have advertised 1gh/w
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you can check the internet archive for the webby around the time the bet was made, no difference at all IIRC
mircea_popescu: well, since now bfl is not only a scammy piece of shit on all the other counts,
ThickAsThieves: and how do we determine what date the specs advertised were changed
mircea_popescu: i would guess only bets clearly specifying it would be allowed.
jborkl: I do not have a bet at all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000001 = 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.32 = 5.76 BTC [-]
jborkl: but to me it would be clear that the specs are failed for the bet
jborkl: the Jala is much faster than specd and uses much more power
rikur: ThickAsThieves: just check the internet archive
mircea_popescu: fascinating what people are willing to say for a dime thi.
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you apparently don't know how the wayback machine works
rikur: mircea_popescu: sorry but no I
mircea_popescu: quite clearly stated on their own forum. release specs : jalapeno 4.5 at 4.5 ; single 60 at 60 mini 1500 at 1500
mircea_popescu: it's in the screenshot and ffs everyone knows it already.
rikur: But I hope whoever resolves it really goes through the arguments and doesn't just pick one on a whim
ThickAsThieves: i do think them changing the specs advertised is sneaky
jborkl: it also is running at 5.8 gh on average - so it fails at 5gh bet also
ThickAsThieves: also, rikur, it is not in your best interest to rush bet resolution
rikur: ThickAsThieves: those posts are from last year, when the bet was created the product page only advertised GH/s.
jborkl: Jalapeno is doin 5.8 and approx 30w
kakobrekla: rikur so you would have been ok with a box of gpus?
rikur: but not advertisement :)
mircea_popescu: why does someone care about the 4 april 2013 snapshot ?
rikur: That's the oldest Jalopeno page on wayback machine, it's after the bet but hey, it's better than nothing. Do you have a product page that has wattage mentioned anywhere? Didn't think so :p
kakobrekla: well you can see the jalapeno went from 1 usb cable
rikur: mircea_popescu: please show me a single product page link that has wattage mentioned, from any date. If you don't have one, I think the April 4th link is valuable :)
rikur: kakobrekla: has nothing to do with performance though :)
jborkl: mircea_popescu, it is running at 5.8 -from very reliable sources - so the bet is a fail
rikur: jborkl: wrong, the advertised performance was with +-10% variance and the bet said that it has to be +-10% of that
deadweasel: also, it should not crap out in two weeks time..
mircea_popescu: jborkl tbh, the +- there is to be construed in their favour. at least this hash, no more than this wattage sort of thing.
deadweasel: that will be interesting... which bfl catches fire first?
mircea_popescu: i don't think they'd count as failed for overdelivering
rikur: kakobrekla: size of a unit has nothing to do with performance, don't be silly
jborkl: oh, I would have rear the bet +- of 5gh or w\e
kakobrekla: rikur they failed on so many levels you can just pick one favourite
jborkl: well, it was supposed to warm coffee also, it failed there also
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves rikur still thinks the web archive is valuable.
mircea_popescu: "Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem." << that's where the 10% came from im pretty sure.
mircea_popescu: as in, whoever put the bets in trying to match whatever bfl was claiming at the time
rikur: ThickAsThieves: that's not an an advertisement. Forum moderators claims/behaviour can't be used against a company in court.
rikur: It's not just in case of BFL, but for any forum posts
rikur: ThickAsThieves: they're the ones that eventually solve conflicts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4749 = 4.749 BTC [+]
rikur: I might sue bitbet.us over this for sure :)
ThickAsThieves: ad·ver·tise·ment [ad-ver-tahyz-muhnt, ad-vur-tis-muhnt, -tiz-] noun
ThickAsThieves: 1. a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc.
ThickAsThieves: 3. the action of making generally known; a calling to the attention of the public
rikur: mircea_popescu: it only costs <300$ and I would win more bitcoins in this case, so it would be worth a shot
rikur: mircea_popescu: thanks, but I know my rights well enough
mircea_popescu: the problem would seem to be you imagine much more than you know.
ThickAsThieves: rikur, your only argument is that the bet does not state what date of advertisement would be used, and you already see where mp lies on that
rikur: ThickAsThieves: nope, my argument is that the product page has never advertised wattage and I know this since I've ordered from them twice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00343999 = 0.0103 BTC [+]
rikur: thus wayback machine
kakobrekla: where you ordered it from and what you have read has nothing to do with what they stated
ThickAsThieves: it's not just up to MP tho, he has a crew that decided the resolution
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
rikur: no like I said I just hope that they realy look into the arguments properly and take their time to resolve it in a fair way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4571 = 8.2278 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <+AssetBot> [Cado.AvalonB3] 1 @ 0.05000000 = 0.05000000 [+]
ThickAsThieves: guy is breaking up 3 Avalons on order into 33000 shares
kakobrekla: hey hey i got proprietary rights on that syntax
mircea_popescu: two hundred grand for three avalons ? what is this, sparta ?
ThickAsThieves: shit i'm so stupid, I shouldve boght AM blades amd then IPO'd at 10x
ThickAsThieves: i think this is also evidence that a split share AM asset would do well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4729 = 5.6748 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well i'm not even counting the usual scammy " X % of shares are reserved for management" with sliding X
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000725 = 7.5038 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 80-100 mh/s gpus are about 70-100 bux neh ?
benkay: or you can buy a rack of gpus in a 6u mount from Elemental Technologies
benkay: stick it someone else's data center
benkay: their bread and butter is on-demand transcoding, so they may know what's up w/r/t box design
benkay: i'm about 1/10th of the way into talking my way into free development boxes from them
benkay: which i will ship to iceland
benkay: and generate bitcoins from geothermal power
benkay: my sample size for comparison isn't statistically valid tho
mircea_popescu: this is a fine example of why you shouldn't take twitter seriously.
mircea_popescu: also i hope nassim taleb reads that and gets all pissed off.
dub: i was lucky to break 200 and running so hot they barf after a few hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45711 = 4.5711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
benkay: that's actually not a bad name for an ultradom like you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4724 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4724 = 2.8344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00072792 = 4.6587 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4601 = 2.7606 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47239 = 3.3067 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47239 BTC [+]
inhies: lets hope the july bet gets closed soon :)
inhies: "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win - in such cases bets are closed and paid early instead. "
jurov: btw just got a "why hammering nails with microscope" idea
inhies: seems like it should be closed early assuming the verdict is yes, the latest deliveries count
jurov: why casascius coins aren't charged after successful delivery only?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45651 = 4.5651 BTC [-]
jurov: no trouble with insurance and btc rate then...
jurov: the 1btc ones do not.. and the 5btc only plating
Chaang-Noi: 1000 btc coin is solid gold .999 i has one
Chaang-Noi: he has gold plated bars at 100 500 and 1000
Namworld: The coin itself is irrelevant, almost
Namworld: I'll take it wooden for all I care.
Chaang-Noi: i did buy it when btc was worth much less than now
Namworld: Like, the sticker and key would burn in a fire anyway
Namworld: So why not a polished wooden coin?
Chaang-Noi: i have a bunch of the 10 btc silver ones and got them when 10 btc = an oz of silver
Chaang-Noi: my coins are in a 2 hour rates fire proof safe. no fire lol
Namworld: Firefighters take their sweet time, fire burns for 2.1 hour
Namworld: Hmm... do fireproof rating applies to content burning?
mircea_popescu: Namworld polished hardwood is pretty much impossible to catch on fire anyway
Namworld: Because plastic would melt way before burning
mircea_popescu: actually some plastic is thermosetting. it never melts.
Namworld: Yeah, idk what casascius uses...
jurov: biodegradable cellophane?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.469899 = 4.2291 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.266 = 2.532 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : chemically, cellophane, rayon and cellulose are polymers of glucose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Namworld: Whale mucus? Why not ambergris? "Keeps that fresh Bitcoin smell longer than the competition!"
dub: at a guess I'd say he uses recycled mcdonalds burger wrappers
dub: which he will have in plentiful supply
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: namworld a house almost never burns for more than 30 mins, there is no way that safe will get damaged
Chaang-Noi: the only plasic on the coins is the holograms
benkay: namworld are you really counseling someone to dial down their fire insurance?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.013001 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol i dont think iv ever seen anyone type out ambergris or even know someone who knew what it was
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: namworld how do you know so much about whale vomit?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698999 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i bet the have a lot of whales in canada
dub: I hear theres some moosecock in space atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4698999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i slept 4 hours last night... if that...
Chaang-Noi: getting up before the sun is weird to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.456001 = 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.4999 = 4.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19987 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1999 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00072792 = 1.3103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00073999 = 0.3448 BTC [+]
truff1es: dont the days go by so quickly