assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00065 = 10.465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1957 @ 0.00359126 = 7.0281 BTC [-]
jurov: February MPOE bonds passthroughnow open. First moment buyers will get best price!
jurov: And check bitfunder announcement for extra lulz :)
Namjies: Couldn't these be made available on coinbr?
gribble: Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 45 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Ukto> did you ever find good docs?
FabianB: Ukto: it just happend again
jurov: Namjies, I'd have to add more code as coinbr is not an exchange itself. Plus it made Ukto so happy.
Ukto: jurov: it did, thanks! :)
jurov: mircea_popescu, have you seen what i put into the bitfunder news?
mircea_popescu: the girls are majoritarily from the us but generally from all over
pigeons: Ukto: Heard from DeadTerra 'bout G.SDICE dividends?
smickles: arg, f-ing credit card companies
smickles: make a purchase, declined. call, get it manually approved, make the next purchase... declined
jurov: smickles, use rg's method
jurov: he was asking every day in -otc who'll order and pay him a pizza
smickles: give someone btc to make cc purchases
smickles: jurov: he did it for data center payments too
smickles: a bit higher ticket than just lunch
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, if anyone wants to buy me a somethingawful account i'll pay teh btc .
smickles: Well, I've sworn of CCs for today at least
mircea_popescu: lmao teh clueless noob hasn't quite figured it out yet lol
jurov: mircea you forgot to add the "My dad is died and my wife's dad is died...." part
mircea_popescu: but to anyone suspecting this was an ellaborate ploy : if the guy is this good...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00065 = 11.18 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: but the 'interests' rate on sidce are better
mircea_popescu: The current repayment rate is aprox 77%, if you think dice games are better than this please stay away of peer to peer lending sites.
Namjies: SatoshiDice does not deliver interests however and by selecting well rated loaners, you can drastically increase repayment rate.
Namjies: If you can get 95% repayment rate, with the interest, you'd end up in the green.
Namjies: I even got a 4% per week loan over 2 month repaid in full with interest.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00363054 = 3.8121 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 710 @ 0.0037 = 2.627 BTC [+]
Namjies: But I didn't want to push my luck too much tho. It's almost just like gambling.
Ukto: pigeons: yes, divs will be paid out soon
mircea_popescu: i suspect pigeon's loadning to jurov will probably be half or a third of the actually repaid loans
mircea_popescu: and the fact of the matter is they could have dealt with or w/o btcjam
Ukto: mircea_popescu: you sure its not japanese? or korean ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00064099 = 0.3891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063446 = 6.5984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1934 @ 0.00062839 = 1.2153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1275 @ 0.00062834 = 0.8011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064915 = 2.7913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1439 @ 0.00062834 = 0.9042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.0037 = 9.065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.0037 = 9.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00065 = 10.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00366266 = 4.2267 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00064316 = 1.4471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00064162 = 3.3685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00064712 = 2.4591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1046 @ 0.00366266 = 3.8311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1947 @ 0.00359126 = 6.9922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 704 @ 0.00357934 = 2.5199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064021 = 6.5622 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00064021 = 0.7081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3453 @ 0.00063961 = 2.2086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00368308 = 3.4253 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.00369389 = 0.0739 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00362958 = 6.1703 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "This means that the biggest risk of our project is gone and our NRE is a fruitful spend."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1880 @ 0.00369389 = 6.9445 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6870 @ 0.0037 = 25.419 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I LOVE that the S.MPOE trading bot has now moved over to trading S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1186 @ 0.0037 = 4.3882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1158 @ 0.00369264 = 4.2761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 97 @ 0.00362958 = 0.3521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 375 @ 0.00361855 = 1.357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5070 @ 0.00360414 = 18.273 BTC [-]
Ukto: yay, blockchain.info down
Ukto: who wanted to use them as a payment gateway?
kakobrekla: time for a blockchain.info payable and stable alternative
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu : yeah I'm sure Erik loves seeing that story.
Ukto: kakobrekla: about 2 months
Ukto: what was announced?
kakobrekla: they should have downtime annoncment api
kakobrekla: so users would be able to ensure at least some level of service quality
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.0037 = 11.47 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there;s certainly space in the market for more than one blockchain.info
mircea_popescu: they owned blockexplorer cause that was kept mostly academicly, no serious effort
StarenseN: mircea_popescu, i'm about to invest in the stock market but please explain me what's the f*** is wrong with the Porn hosted on the same domain ?
Ukto: what wrong with the porn?
jurov: kuzetsa: coinbr alleviates the need to pay for mpex account, plus adds user interface and bookkeeping... wouldn't say it's weird :)
jurov: anybody: coinbr.com doesn't require invitations anymore, they are useful for affiliate payments
jurov: perhaps should update the frontpage stuff to make it clear
Ukto: still, whats wrong with it?
Ukto: is it censored? pizelated?
kakobrekla: use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
mircea_popescu: StarenseN if you want to take it that way, it's proof of strength.
Ukto: then whats wrong with it?
mircea_popescu: the porn in question is older on the internet than btc itself, and than any other bitcoin service
mircea_popescu: taaki tried to get my site offline by complaining to anyone and everyone about "child porn"
jurov: Ukto, go to bitcointalk and write somewhere "I started new exchange, cause i can't use mpex cause the porn is too pixelated"
StarenseN: that's ok, but why don't you dedicate ONE server for the stock market
Ukto: [12:10] <kakobrekla> use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
Ukto: kakobrekla already told you
StarenseN: under your related domain that is also existing for MPEX
Ukto: are you that offended by it?
mircea_popescu: there is a webserver which is pretty well secured for this purpose, which conduits your communications.
Ukto: [12:10] <kakobrekla> use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
mircea_popescu: just like your traffic at home goes through your isp's proxy
mircea_popescu: just so my servers face the internet through a single webserver
Ukto: StarenseN: they are both the same thing.. they both talk to the actual mpex server
Ukto: your just mad because one has porn, and refuse to use the one without ?
mircea_popescu: and this is so because securing webservers is complex and expensive and you really don't want to do it multiple times if it can be helped
mircea_popescu: Stuart asserts that New York authorities only came after him because they wanted to use him as a conduit to uncover illegal gambling operations in that state. He says the New York district attorney’s office tried to strong-arm him into a plea agreement that would have had him hacking into the systems of his software clients in order to obtain the usernames and passwords of gamblers and their bookmakers to help author
mircea_popescu: Under plea agreement discussions that were never finalized by a judge, and that occurred in February 2011 before Stuart was charged with any crime, Stuart says New York authorities pressed him to install a backdoor in his software and distribute it to clients so the data of gamblers and bookmakers could be retrieved.
Ukto: mo: just reading that ? lol
Ukto: just shows you how shady the govt is
Ukto: then there is the story there, about using predators to kill americans
Ukto: after that one, i closed the site
Ukto: and started to dream of another country agian
jcpham: there is a law firm in atlanta that is sending infringement claims
kakobrekla: the alien vs predator predator or some different predator
jcpham: based on scan to pdf process patent
Ukto: armed predatorr drones
jcpham: pretty easy to be on the wrong side of the law or copyright these days
Ukto: i know a federal DA
jurov: who never broke copyright law, throw the first stone
Ukto: she got real serious during lunch once. and said "I can put you in federal prison for 5 years for eating that sandwich. No shit."
Ukto: "There is no such thing as "legal"."
Ukto: there is a huge list of illegal things, and much larger list of items that are 'gray areas' that could be used to make 'legal seeming things' illegal.
kakobrekla: my head assploded seeing that gold site omg ouch.
mircea_popescu: jcpham i'd really like to get mpex on some of these golbug sites etc. you know anyone ?\
jcpham: know would mean less than iknow you
jcpham: at the bottom, in the comments
jcpham: matonis has a forum account
jcpham: the forbes blogger guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1396 @ 0.00364994 = 5.0953 BTC [-]
jcpham: MP let me work on that
jcpham: if nothing else i can start with the guy that shared that link with me
jurov: perhaps luring some known goldbug blogger would be better
jurov: with some material from dtng? totally :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16233 @ 0.0037 = 60.0621 BTC [+]
jurov: blockchain.info down?
jurov: poor blockexplorer.com: ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)
kakobrekla: is anything like blockchain info opensourced
kakobrekla: it needs a bitcoind mod which iirc is somewhere online
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9200 @ 0.0037 = 34.04 BTC [+]
pigeons: kakobrekla: there is an opensource blockexplorer called ABE
pigeons: wow people (blockchain.info) use mac's for servers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0037 = 1.665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1575 @ 0.00063961 = 1.0074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3035 @ 0.00063773 = 1.9355 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: If yields go up after QE3 ends, bonds are going to get fucking crushed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2415 @ 0.00063773 = 1.5401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7185 @ 0.00063594 = 4.5692 BTC [-]
jcpham: mircea_popescu i put out a feeler and someone has offered me anything i want for a mpex account
jcpham: this isn't looking good
jcpham: i thought mpex accounts were 20btc and some gpg-fu
jcpham: "i'll do anything you want" makes me feel icky
jcpham: i don't think so at all
mircea_popescu: so whats a gold eagle go for these days ? over 30 btc ?
jcpham: if this person isn't crazy and runs some awesome gold blog, can they have a free mpex account?
jcpham: i'd say no myself and make them pay 30btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 60000 @ 0.0037 = 222 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: exchange it for 30btc worth of adverts
mircea_popescu: well, kinda hard to run a blog 30btc worth of awesome, but not impossible
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00366137 = 2.1968 BTC [-]
jcpham: i'm not going to bother you with anyone i haven't vetted
mircea_popescu: tho im not even sure what someone'd do with an acct if no monyz in it
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i wouldn't get my hopes up. people will discover -EV and stop betting anytime now.
Bugpowder: My analysis "The New York district attorney’s office says his software was used to make illegal bets in that state between Sept. 2008 and June 2011." So we have about 3 years left of bountiful plenty
Bugpowder: I kinda just want my options deposits back so I can buy through the rest of S.DICE....
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00353735 / 0.00368454 / 0.0037 (139209 shares, 512.92 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00328132 / 0.0037 (12915175 shares, 42,378.87 BTC)
mircea_popescu: course, if the guy that butchered the last tier with his 10k was only really just beginning...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16315 @ 0.00063594 = 10.3754 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1385 @ 0.00063258 = 0.8761 BTC [-]
smickles: anyone here want some of my ppusd?
mircea_popescu: this is getting a little bit crazy, 10 deposits the past 5 hours
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1519 @ 0.00366088 = 5.5609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5546 @ 0.0037 = 20.5202 BTC [+]
jurov: something is happening
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16974811 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09101032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
jurov: it's coinbr users ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.07680901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00064091 = 4.2435 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00064712 = 1.2917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31083 @ 0.00065 = 20.204 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.19862955 BTC [-]
jurov: smickles, how much?
mircea_popescu: "I won 16 BTC on satoshidice and promptly used it to buy S.DICE stock. Already made over 1 BTC on dividends."
jurov: well, i just used sdice to touch up the balance for mpex deposit :P
jurov: ended up with 1.6btc more, lol
pizzaman1337: where can I see what the % dividend returns are on S.DICE? (dividend/share price)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16972395 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09098616 BTC [-]
smickles: jurov: are you offering mpexbtc for ppusd?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.07678775 BTC [-]
jurov: smickles yes, for 0.1 BTC fee. but must figure out how much is avail
smickles: Bugpowder: it's a one month test
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu I only see 6 deposits (450BTC)
Bugpowder: it might be due to the big reddit S.DICE story
smickles: if you are interested in sending btc to it, I'll give you a fair share of profits/losses
Bugpowder: sorry smickles I'm building my own bot
jurov: smickles, 4BTC are definitely available ;)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.31571, Best ask: 13.33965, Bid-ask spread: 0.02394, Last trade: 13.31570, 24 hour volume: 18951.43361414, 24 hour low: 13.24897, 24 hour high: 13.46400, 24 hour vwap: 13.34623
jurov: smickles here you are
jurov: ;;calc 4.1*13.34623
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16969705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09095926 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
jurov: Bugpowder, u gonna sell bonds?
smickles: jurov: so 4.1 mpex btc for 54.72 ppusd?
jurov: only 4.0 . the 0.1 is the fee
smickles: ok, sounds reasonable for what I bought the ppusd at
Bugpowder: with the TNX jump, I might actually pick up some more here.
jurov: smickles, all done
Bugpowder: The 10-year treasury yield stayed below 3% from 1934 all the way till 1956.
Bugpowder: I'm sure the whole time people were thinking yields would rise any day now...
Bugpowder: Could take 20 years to deleverage through this K-winter
Bugpowder: well no.. the deleveraging can't occur that fast, that opportunity came prior to the first big bank bailouts. However, yields could start going up within 6 weeks.
mircea_popescu: GNP on par with Chad for a decade or so, and all that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0006338 = 10.1408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12420 @ 0.00063258 = 7.8566 BTC [-]