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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00042953 = 6.8725 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: http://imgur.com/gallery/rhPlU
Diablo-D3: dare someone to post that as a reply to goat on the forums
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: hat drama is going on?
thestringpuller: what*
thestringpuller: I'll post it
thestringpuller: for .5 btc
mircea_popescu: lol how's that worth 6 dollars ?
thestringpuller: I'm just hustlin' man gotta get dat papuh
thestringpuller: you gettin' your papuh right?
Diablo-D3: http://imgur.com/gallery/QnMOm
Diablo-D3: the wrath of god
thestringpuller: what is goat saying on the forums
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: who knows
Diablo-D3: just find a thread and be like BAM
mircea_popescu: "once the news about what we are talking about gets out, MPEX will be under huge pressure, if they want or not"
mircea_popescu: how's that pressure coming along btw ?
mircea_popescu: takes moar than two weeks ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: china is jerking as fast as they can
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://buckworthsolicitors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Michael-Buckworth-271-x-302.jpg <<< does this look like an internet lawyer or what!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18777 @ 0.00042873 = 8.0503 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: internet lawyer is another word for douchebag, yeah?
mircea_popescu: yeah
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why do all british lawyers have funny teeth...
thestringpuller: like steve buscemi
mircea_popescu: i dunno, custard pie ?
thestringpuller: so what's new mircea?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042953 = 10.094 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.00042961 = 1.8555 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not much really.
thestringpuller: what time is it over there?
thestringpuller: 4AM or something?
mircea_popescu: 3
thestringpuller: do you know of any C based web frameworks?
mircea_popescu: you mean cgi ?
mircea_popescu: .g common gateway interface
mircea_popescu: omg still no markac!
thestringpuller: hmm
thestringpuller: i guess that would work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15776 @ 0.00042873 = 6.7636 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00042873 = 2.6354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4996 @ 0.00042801 = 2.1383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7952 @ 0.00042792 = 3.4028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7081 @ 0.00042961 = 3.0421 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34619 @ 0.0004306 = 14.9069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.0004306 = 0.853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21340 @ 0.00043102 = 9.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2174 @ 0.00043103 = 0.9371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00043194 = 1.9459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33295 @ 0.00043194 = 14.3814 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39456 @ 0.00043254 = 17.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52202 @ 0.00043312 = 22.6097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24098 @ 0.00043324 = 10.4402 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00043347 = 13.1341 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00043349 = 8.7998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00043438 = 12.4667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00043463 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00043475 = 12.0426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00043511 = 6.3526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1265 @ 0.00043551 = 0.5509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00043591 = 4.1847 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48105 @ 0.00043599 = 20.9733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48428 @ 0.00043602 = 21.1156 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00043607 = 24.0711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00043623 = 9.6097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00043626 = 18.4538 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00043645 = 1.8767 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32797 @ 0.00043646 = 14.3146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14469 @ 0.00043652 = 6.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36035 @ 0.00043675 = 15.7383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00043688 = 11.0531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3686 @ 0.00043699 = 1.6107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4541 @ 0.00043756 = 1.987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00043766 = 21.4453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00043772 = 14.6198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00043772 = 24.9063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00043805 = 20.8074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.0004381 = 9.1563 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37675 @ 0.00043888 = 16.5348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44711 @ 0.00043908 = 19.6317 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: wat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00043928 = 18.7573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.0004397 = 20.3141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00043979 = 20.934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96386 @ 0.00044 = 42.4098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00044014 = 0.4401 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00044033 = 10.7441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22022 @ 0.00044061 = 9.7031 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mpoe blew up
gigavps: thestringpuller what happened to mpoe?
kakobrekla: !ticker s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00042792 / 0.00043299 / 0.00044061 (2641504 shares, 1,143.76 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00036942 / 0.00046059 (90162666 shares, 33,308.55 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 29629 @ 0.003375 = 99.9979 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o hey, new max
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Good news. We have figured out a solution for this problem. Bitmit is not going to be sold. Business as usual. We are sorry for the insecurity this may have caused."
mircea_popescu: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121019141254.htm i wonder how concerned we should be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00043317 = 10.3094 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: not scared at all
thestringpuller: ?
thestringpuller: quantum computing is very expensive field mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: :p
thestringpuller: it's like antimatter
thestringpuller: "In 2006, Gerald Smith estimated $250 million could produce 10 milligrams of positrons[38] (equivalent to $25 billion per gram)"
thestringpuller: Bitmit didn't get sold?
noagendamarket: think they pulled the sale
mircea_popescu: no, apparently the bids on that were just as fake as all therest
mircea_popescu: and so they ended up selling to themselves so business as ... normal./
thestringpuller: are there any financial figures floating around? or is it privately held?
thestringpuller: (curious as to their revenue)
mircea_popescu: fake top bid was 5k or so
mircea_popescu: so you could infer < 50 btc/mo
thestringpuller: micro business lol
thestringpuller: that's less than US minimum wage
mircea_popescu: glbse was making for the "sharegholders" less than what the crown was paying taaki as welfare.
noagendamarket: people dont buy shit with bitcoins
mircea_popescu: yes, it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place.
noagendamarket: nefario took most of the glbse funds thats why the shareholders didnt get much :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Amir Taaki? The Intersango guy?
noagendamarket: it turns out hes really greedy :D
mircea_popescu: noagendamarket even if we were to take the 500 a month figure seriously, it still doesn't pay the rent.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes, bitcoinconscammercy.
noagendamarket: it was more like 500 a week
mircea_popescu: you can lay off now, nobody's going to pay you money for your shares anyway.
noagendamarket: I wrote them off months ago :P
mircea_popescu: no, you were actively trying to sucker someone into buying them a few weeks back.
noagendamarket: no. Mine werent for sale
mircea_popescu: and in general, stop trying to act like you're either legitimate or respectable. neither's the case.
noagendamarket: Theymos asked me about it but I hadnt said yes or no when nefario shut the site down
noagendamarket: fuck off wanker
thestringpuller: heh
mircea_popescu: myeah.
thestringpuller: sounds like tool
thestringpuller: As my boss says, "Behind every successful person lies a pack of haters"
mircea_popescu: inevitably.
thestringpuller: you're right though: "it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place."
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's just an intellectually lazy way to think "oh, im a btc entrepreneur"
thestringpuller: entrepreneur's success is generally measured by the jobs they create
thestringpuller: so more like "I'm a btc 'investor'"
thestringpuller: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-11/DigitalCurrencies/2011/06/03/bitcoins-and-the-potential-to-uplift-millions/index.html - that's what brought me back to the btc world
thestringpuller: "BitCoins might not provide us as much financial security in the short-term, but it would definitely empower us overall."
thestringpuller: Don't you feel empowered by operating MPEX mircea_popescu?
Diablo-D3: no, he gets that from beating women
thestringpuller: LOL
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00043394 = 6.8563 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00043317 = 5.2673 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.003375 = 388.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4540 @ 0.00043317 = 1.9666 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: how does one even get on welfare
Chaaang-Noi: seems like a lot of work
noagendamarket: its easy :P
noagendamarket: in Australia even the middle class get welfare of some sort
noagendamarket: feelsgoodman.jpg
Azelphur: Chaaang-Noi: you can always take my approach, one of the perks of having Autism is that the welfare people never fuck with me
Azelphur: \o/
Chaaang-Noi: lol
Chaaang-Noi: so lets say im in the usa and i dont want or cant work
Chaaang-Noi: then what?
noagendamarket: youre fucked
Azelphur: go to local walmarts and ask if you can have a large cardboard box
Chaaang-Noi: lol so welfare is good in england and aus but not usa?
Azelphur: I think that's pretty much the jist of it
Chaaang-Noi: ahh
noagendamarket: there is no welfare in the usa :P
Chaaang-Noi: i see
Chaaang-Noi: okay good
Chaaang-Noi: maybe ill start paying taxes then...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50060 @ 0.00043136 = 21.5939 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043394 = 1.0415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33278 @ 0.00044061 = 14.6626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00044072 = 20.8461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00044098 = 23.7688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00044131 = 0.662 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11562 @ 0.00044289 = 5.1207 BTC [+]
noagendamarket: you dont get very much if you dont work in Australia either though...subsistence living
noagendamarket: thats why so many women get pregnant to get the single parents pension
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00043247 = 6.8763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00043247 = 2.0759 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00042852 = 6.5135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16936 @ 0.00042823 = 7.2525 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: good day-night-morning-evening
EskimoBob: any interesting news?
Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 20 minutes and 52 seconds
Chaang-Noi: same old same old...
EskimoBob: whats in the BTC TV? Any new soap operas or drama?
Chaang-Noi: minor pirate stuff, minoe bitcoincia stuff
Chaang-Noi: about it
Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 24 minutes and 53 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 31 minutes and 59 seconds
Chaang-Noi: i heart ltc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00043124 = 7.8054 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I was reading that "Breakthrough Offers New Route to Large-Scale Quantum Computing" . BTC or any crypto-blah is not fucked yet but it's getting closer. 7 more years maybe and some lab has it up and working... and then BTC will become a blip in e-pages of history
Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 38 minutes and 1 second
EskimoBob: what are you waiting Chaang-Noi?
Chaang-Noi: i wanted to see if a transaction was good
Chaang-Noi: i used the same wallet on two computers and everything got fucked up
Chaang-Noi: one comptuer does not see the coin
Chaang-Noi: one seems it did
Chaang-Noi: not sure what went wrong, used the wallet for oever 1 year and have over 5000 transactions and several hundred address
Chaang-Noi: but then lol they dont match
midnightmagic: ls -la
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00043543 = 3.0754 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob maybe.
rg: nice
rg: when i wake up ltc diff will be down
mircea_popescu: tho the same computers can be used to mine.
mircea_popescu: meh i just had the world's worst banana
mircea_popescu: wtf, we get quantum computers can't even grow a decent banana ;/
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you know that this yellow banana we like so much is going to die out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.00043651 = 21.1271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 627 @ 0.00043651 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16708 @ 0.00043728 = 7.3061 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob so i hear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00043789 = 8.2104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15326 @ 0.003375 = 51.7253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00044289 = 16.2984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1392 @ 0.00043986 = 0.6123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.0004383 = 4.9528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.16325225 = 0.653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.003375 = 67.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1471 @ 0.0004383 = 0.6447 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32857 @ 0.00044004 = 14.4584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1752 @ 0.00044289 = 0.7759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20138 @ 0.00044289 = 8.9189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6710 @ 0.00044306 = 2.9729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00044106 = 8.0273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1772 @ 0.00044106 = 0.7816 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27359 @ 0.00043935 = 12.0202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9884 @ 0.00044306 = 4.3792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00044214 = 20.6922 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: this is not me at all but seems some people have btc wallets
Chaang-Noi: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/432138975
Chaang-Noi: nsfw
Chaang-Noi: its 4chan
Chaang-Noi: might be same fag too, hard to tell
Diablo-D3: not enough tits
thestringpuller: sup guys
gigavps: has anyone talked with nefario about a timeline for the shutdown of glbse?
Diablo-D3: gigavps: oh thats easy
Diablo-D3: 8am: several beers
Diablo-D3: 9am: glbse taken down
Diablo-D3: 10am: spends user funds to get hookers and blow
Diablo-D3: 2pm: why the fuck am I in a ditch, and why does my side hurt, and whats with this bag of ice
gigavps: Diablo-D3 i meant to get the asset holders lists
Diablo-D3: ahh
chmod755: lol
Diablo-D3: thats also easy
gigavps: and coins returned
Diablo-D3: never.
chmod755: i got 100% of my 0.00000000 BTC back
thestringpuller: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54841 @ 0.00044121 = 24.1964 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: :<
thestringpuller: chmod777
Diablo-D3: I got 0% of my btc back
thestringpuller: Mpex it up
Chaang-Noi: giga did you get your coins back?
Chaang-Noi: i kinda wonder if the "double payment fail" was just a stalling tactict.
Chaang-Noi: fail internets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00044168 = 1.7667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117 @ 0.00044121 = 0.0516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27527 @ 0.00043914 = 12.0882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00043896 = 11.4569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00043802 = 0.9444 BTC [-]
jurov: everybody get your popcorn: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119782.0
Chaaang-Noi: we leaked this days ago
Chaaang-Noi: he got that link from me
thestringpuller: who leaked it to mircea though?
Chaaang-Noi: i did
pigeons: i'm wondering who this Anon commenter is that thought i was shareholder4. seems random. hit me up if you're here
pigeons: hmm unless its one of the 2 people i have on ignore
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00043802 = 5.6943 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lol am i on ignore?
pigeons: nope
pigeons: is that you're comment though?
thestringpuller: i tend to get along with a lot of people
thestringpuller: no
thestringpuller: i dont do forums/networks
thestringpuller: social* networks
thestringpuller: just irc
thestringpuller: the btc business community is falling apart
pigeons: i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least
thestringpuller: worst ceo ever is steve ballmer
thestringpuller: singlehandedly ruined microsoft
thestringpuller: pigeons: do you run any businesses?
thestringpuller: or own any?
pigeons: thestringpuller: just private tech consulting services, no btc
pigeons: more freelancer than a "business"
thestringpuller: last of the freelance hackers are we? i have respect for that
thestringpuller: i used to be a freelance hacker. then i needed medical insurance
pigeons: yeah, i hear ya
thestringpuller: so youve been around awhile?
pigeons: more than some, less than others
thestringpuller: modest :)
thestringpuller: the glbse fiasco is driving a wedge between the community
pigeons: really? one one side of the wedge is everyone who got screwed. who is on the other side?
thestringpuller: well nefario showed his true colors. there are logs of him basically saying he would oppose law enforcement. the second the popo arrive due to rising publicity, he caves to political pressure.
pigeons: yeah i think its more of a betrayal than had it been someone who never had presented that they would fight for the cause
gigavps: so wtf has he been doing the last couple of weeks?
copumpkin: jacking off
PsychoticBoy: nothing i suppose
thestringpuller: he's a coward ultimately. no loyalty. loyalty is what will make or break this community. there is a saying in the orient, "loyalty to the end" if you truly believe in your cause you will die for it
copumpkin: oh hey BurtW
copumpkin: dude
copumpkin: what's the point in getting sent to jail for glbse?
copumpkin: and then glbse will get taken down anyway
copumpkin: it's not the kind of thing you can make a stand on
copumpkin: I think he's a weasel and incompetent
thestringpuller: move glbse to another country
copumpkin: but it's stupid to expect him to stand up to law enforcement
thestringpuller: amd vacate
copumpkin: yeah, it's really easy to just pick up and move countries
thestringpuller: the world is a big place
copumpkin: cause you know, you walk up to a consulate and say "yo, I wanna move my illegal bitcoin exchange to your country, gimme a work visa"
copumpkin: and they'll be like "yeah totally!"
thestringpuller: i meant more send the data overseas
thestringpuller: let someone else run it
thestringpuller: then you disappear or due the time
gigavps: or under the sea
PsychoticBoy: in a sunken ship ;)
thestringpuller: do the time*
thestringpuller: isnt that what hazard pay is for?
BurtW: Hey copumpkin
gigavps: burt dub is in the house
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00044168 = 6.3602 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: gigavps: in the event you don't get asset holder information what will you do?
gigavps: what can i do?
gigavps: if i start a claims process, how will i know who is not lying?
gigavps: if the claims go over 40k units issued, who doesn't get paid?
gigavps: does the contract change?
thestringpuller: there is a case nefario may decide to not release the db info
thestringpuller: i wouldnt put it past him at this poibt
thestringpuller: point*
gigavps: Gigamining's contract is dependent on their being a highest traded price over the last 15 days
gigavps: so it will most likely mean that the contract will no longer be perpetual
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, i have one too for 7 days
Chaaang-Noi: this whole things is a mess
gigavps: so if someone can come up with clear answers to these questions, i'm happy to continue Gigamining
Chaaang-Noi: giga, make sure you talk to your lawyer before you act as a broker
gigavps: that is another reason the contract would need to change
gigavps: because I cannot act as a broker or exchange
Chaaang-Noi: you are an american, so im not kidding, talk to your lawyer
Chaaang-Noi: yeah you cant
Chaaang-Noi: you must have talked to a lawyer :)
Chaaang-Noi: or you is smart
Chaaang-Noi: either way it sucks
gigavps: so most of the profitability of Teramining, which was being able to be the first to have it and flip it, is gone
thestringpuller: heh mircea hates mining bonds so i doubt mpex is an option
Chaaang-Noi: it is a mess
gigavps: so now anyone holding Gigamining and wants to upgrade to Teramining has to ask, just how many coins am i going to put in and is it even worth it
gigavps: but they won't know until a new contract is made and agreed upon
gigavps: and there is no point in making a new contract if i can't reliably know who owns what
thestringpuller: glbse has you by the balls still :(
gigavps: glbse doesn't have me by the balls, they have all of their/my customers by the balss
gigavps: balls
Chaaang-Noi: glbse had made it so giga is forced to keep all profit, glbse has fucked everyone who trusted glbse
gigavps: that is the most unfortunate part of this whole thing
thestringpuller: trust is a powerful thing
gigavps: because it makes me look like a scammer in most outcomes
Chaaang-Noi: anyone who holds giga stock should sue glbse and their owners like theymos
thestringpuller: at least your customers no its not yohr fault
Chaaang-Noi: yeah that is why im so pissed at neferio and theymos...
gigavps: thestringpuller i can only hope at this point
Chaaang-Noi: i have had death threats over my assets
Chaaang-Noi: i hope giga has not had the same
gigavps: no death threats yet
Chaaang-Noi: good
pigeons: wait, people don't like goat?
Chaaang-Noi: yeah
Chaaang-Noi: i am a giant cock
thestringpuller: the thing i dont get is why the platform didn't have an email list of the current asset holders for each particular issuer
gigavps: they do
thestringpuller: oh you just cant access it
thestringpuller: fuck them then
thestringpuller: someone should just hack the db
Chaaang-Noi: pigeons really some people hate me, some people love me,
gigavps: nobody hates Goat
Chaaang-Noi: lol yes they do
Chaaang-Noi: matthew hates me with a passion
Chaaang-Noi: some do :)
gigavps: and now matthew is banished from BTC
Chaaang-Noi: yeah
gigavps: see what happens when you hate goat
Chaaang-Noi: :)
Chaaang-Noi: im off to bed all
Chaaang-Noi: night
gigavps: see ya
Chaaang-Noi: peace
gigavps: thestringpuller you have any good answers to my questions?
gigavps: i'm all ears
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00044168 = 16.563 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00044214 = 4.0677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00044221 = 2.8301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4544 @ 0.00043802 = 1.9904 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256 @ 0.00043789 = 0.1121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00043789 = 11.6917 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: pigeons> i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least << lol
mircea_popescu: i see nobody has any faith in nefario's future business plans ?!
gigavps: mircea_popescu i glad to see you are in a joking mood today
gigavps: i'm*
mircea_popescu: and yes, gigavps is pretty royally screwed.
mircea_popescu: o, i was just reading the logs.
gigavps: thanks for clarifying that
mircea_popescu: but yes, what are you going to do with teraminign nao.
thestringpuller: you still around mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: and re thestringpuller : i don't hate miner bonds. i just don't think they're a fit investment for the unsophisticated.
mircea_popescu: they're complicated to evaluate and easy to misconstrue.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1094 @ 0.00043789 = 0.4791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14765 @ 0.00043728 = 6.4564 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16030 @ 0.00043709 = 7.0066 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6711 @ 0.00043707 = 2.9332 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: dis here
thestringpuller: have heard from smickles recently mircea_popescu ?
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 23 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> but it would be nice in a way, rent, phone, internet, car, insurance for this month, that'll be 200 btc by this date please :)
mircea_popescu: mmm something like that, a day or two.
smickles: yo
mircea_popescu: we never talked daily tho. if you have business
mircea_popescu: lol, was gonna say email him, but i guess saying the name works too
smickles: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.003375 = 0.1519 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: next somebody's gonna buy pi shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0034 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: next somebody's gonna buy 3mn shares
Doffx: S.Dice make a recovery?
mircea_popescu: heh, that don' work so good eh ?
mircea_popescu: Doffx sorta bobbing up an' down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 14735 @ 0.0034 = 50.099 BTC [+]
Doffx: If I could sell mine id make 2 btc at .0034
Doffx: Too bad they were on Glbse
mircea_popescu: why can't you sell the oh
Doffx: If only you had given me a free account.
Doffx: Its clearly your fault.
Doffx: :)
mircea_popescu: lol. clearly.
mircea_popescu: how much did you lose by getting a free account ?
Doffx: Id be like -10
mircea_popescu: make 2 btc means you had like 300 btc's worth neh ?
mircea_popescu: no, 30 sorry.
Doffx: If I had bought an account id still be about 10 btc down.
mircea_popescu: so, if you spent 20 to get acct and remainder 10 to get s.dice you'd now have 1 acct worth 30 and 10 btc worth of s.dice
Doffx: Unless I had put all my btc in Mpex then id be up 90 or so
Doffx: So basically had I paid 20 btc id still have 70 or so
Doffx: That make sense?
mircea_popescu: sorta.
EskimoBob: If and Maybe are not investors :)
Doffx: Right
mircea_popescu: if and maybe are the best investors there are
Doffx: There was no way for me to reliably see Glbse would go under like it did.
mircea_popescu: read like yahoo boards or something
EskimoBob: 20
mircea_popescu: Doffx now that'd be a problem.
EskimoBob: 20:20 hindsight?
EskimoBob: lol
Doffx: I knew it would go under.
Doffx: Just though it would be easy to transfer Paper shares to a log to retrieve them, but noooo...
mircea_popescu: a, that.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't think anyone could have imagined the explosion of fail that was awaiting in store for us there.
Doffx: mircea_popescu, I should have paid the 20 and invested, I cant bo back in time now though so oh well.
mircea_popescu: course, smickles liquidated like a day before.
smickles: ;)
mircea_popescu: or was it two days ?
Doffx: Whats the update anyhow smickles?
smickles: it was too damn close either way mircea_popescu
Doffx: What will my 900 SS shares get me.
smickles: Doffx: with SS? no news, sadly
smickles: I can't verify that you are a share holder, so it's cruise-controll for now
smickles: did you see the latest financial report?
Doffx: It seems if I could get a number for my Sdice shares I could potentially get my btc back.
Doffx: No, I haven’t looked yet.
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1277243#msg1277243
mircea_popescu: "look here's all the money we made that you can't touch cause i can't verify your ownership"
smickles: essentially, but, more apologetically :P
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: so what's next on the drama programme ?
mircea_popescu: a suicide ? a wedding ?
smickles: does that mean we're tounging now? (two :p)
mircea_popescu: a double wedding suicide with cannibalism & incest ?
Doffx: Wow nice I made btc on that.
Doffx: See not all my choices were dumb mircea_popescu
Doffx: I was in two reliable assets
mircea_popescu: Doffx haha i never said they'd be
Doffx: SS, and Sdice.
Doffx: I know, I'm more making light of myself.
mircea_popescu: SS, and DerGestapo
Doffx: Id like to get both shares sold and liquidate all my BTC I need the extra cash for rl crap.
mircea_popescu: i still haven't sold pretty much any btc.
smickles: Doffx: 900 SS? what would you sell them to me at?
Doffx: Id like to get back .015 if possible.
Doffx: Thats what I bought in at thereabouts
mircea_popescu: can you buy them back ?!
smickles: mircea_popescu: if i get a contract from him saying that he sells them to me, i see no problem in it
mircea_popescu: how do you know he has any ?
mircea_popescu: i don't mean Doffx , but more in general.
smickles: oh, well, I'd have to trust the other party
Doffx: I have 900 I actually know that for sure because its been the same for months
Doffx: Sdice Im unsure of
smickles: they either have to have the shares, or get the shares when they become available
Doffx: Its like 4559 or some number
EskimoBob: I guess nefario has not contacted any issuers... damn, how is this BS going to take
mircea_popescu: considering that stuff with the dbl payments...
smickles: Doffx: i think i'd buy at 0.0109
Doffx: I may take that offer.
smickles: Doffx: let me draft up a contract for you to review then :)
Doffx: Sounds good.
smickles: ;;ident Doffx
gribble: Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is not identified.
smickles: ;;gpg info Doffx
gribble: User 'Doffx', with keyid DE23494FA64F5DA1, fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address 1Q9FavHENPK7sATGm8ebthxG9EhQmaamw2, registered on Sat Apr 21 13:05:42 2012. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Doffx . Currently not authenticated.
Doffx: Crud, I didnt leave my PC on.
Doffx: I'm at work smickles it may have to wait until I get home to verify.
smickles: Doffx: no problem, i was just getting your fingerprint there
Doffx: Obviously you can send me the message and ill open later with my key.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3389 @ 0.00043707 = 1.4812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00043679 = 8.8232 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31195 @ 0.00043663 = 13.6207 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles you live!
smickles: it is true and good
thestringpuller: the MVP is ready smickles :)
thestringpuller: my operations guy registered the domain and all
thestringpuller: built the db and mini trading automoton
smickles: wow nice
smickles: thestringpuller: is the site live now?
jurov: smickles, do you plan to move SS to mpex when glbse stuff is sorted out?
smickles: jurov: probably not
smickles: SS is winding down and I'm launching an accounting company.
smickles: I've already sent in the incorporation papers
jurov: if you end up doing it, i can offer your shareholders special coinbr accounts
thestringpuller: smickles do you give discounts to btc companies?
thestringpuller: if so could we retain you for q1 2013 :)
BTC-Mining: discounts for what?
thestringpuller: accounting lol
smickles: jurov: that's a good offer, I hope you're extending that to all the glbse issuers
jurov: i already offered that to all passthrough operators
jurov: about the others.. doubt they'll get accepted on mpex
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm sure we can come to a mutually benificial arrangement without the use of marketing ploys :)
smickles: "it's ON SALE!"
thestringpuller: LOL
thestringpuller: smickles to answer your question it should be live within 48 hours to a few people
thestringpuller: i want it to be invite only
Doffx: What offers jurov?
Doffx: I must have missed a post somewhere about something
jurov: for example conibr is able to facilitate 1:1 exchange of GSDPT to S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10975 @ 0.00043663 = 4.792 BTC [-]
smickles: Doffx: should glbse assets move to MPEx, jurov will set up asset holders with coinbr accounts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004365 = 15.0593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00043641 = 0.7476 BTC [-]
jurov: i made private offers
jurov: but everyone is waiting in glbbq
jurov: *on
Doffx: Ahh, that would be cool.
Doffx: I doubt mepex would allow a lot of them though
Doffx: Mpex too
BTC-Mining: oh, Nefario made an interview with Bitcoin Magazine?
gigavps: BTC-Mining where have you been :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00043641 = 16.7145 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Around. I just never had the article mentioned
BTC-Mining: I mostly got info from the leaked shareholders meeting
BTC-Mining: I hope asset info is released pretty soon
BTC-Mining: I'm up to 918 Gigamining shares by the way.
gigavps: BTC-Mining that's great, only wish i could confirm that somehow
BTC-Mining: Aye, I'm sure that will be released soon enough
gigavps: have you spoken with nefario?
BTC-Mining: Not yet. I don't really need any more info than what has already been reported by those who did.
smickles: am i up to date on that issue? some btc has been returned, but no share info?
BTC-Mining: Indeed
thestringpuller: yup
BTC-Mining: Not completly processed
BTC-Mining: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354
gigavps: BTC-Mining i'm not sure if you realize this or not, but the perpetual contract can no longer exist
gigavps: the contract will have to change
BTC-Mining: Payment claims. Still many claiming to not have been paid however.
gigavps: if i get the info from glbse
BTC-Mining: gigavps: how so?
gigavps: the buyback clause cannot be executed without glbse
gigavps: no way to know the highest trading price over the last 15 days
gigavps: i guess we could use the mpex etf to come to a price
gigavps: but i don't think anyone would like that price much
gigavps: because it's .05676 per bond right now
BTC-Mining: Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually.
gigavps: LOL
gigavps: not so simple
BTC-Mining: Assuming you're willing to do that...
gigavps: unless you want me to go to prison
smickles: gigavps: wouldn't you be fine running it privately?
gigavps: smickles my lawyer is researching what, if anything, can be done
gigavps: seems everyone things mining bonds are actually perpetual
smickles: gigavps: good to hear
gigavps: except for that pesky buy back clause that everyone chooses to ignore
gigavps: maybe we should just use the mpex highest traded price
smickles: that would be reasonable, do any of thes listing contracts mention GLBSE specifically?
gigavps: the contract was on glbse
BTC-Mining: mpex price is considerably lower however because it is not assumed not to upgrade to Teramining.
gigavps: and google cache doesn't have a cache of glbse.com/asset/view/GIGAMINING
gigavps: BTC-Mining fine, i'll double it
gigavps: just saying
Doffx: Wouldnt the twitter feed have the last sale of Gigamining>
Doffx: Or is that poof to
gigavps: my main point is that without a buyback clause that can be executed, the contract would need to be changed
gigavps: Doffx the last trade on glbse does not reflect the actions of glbse
smickles: how do you chang a contract without total concent tho?
smickles: i don't expect you had an amendment clause?
gigavps: smickles everyone who wants to get paid will probably need to agree to a new contract
gigavps: we are in uncharted waters here
mircea_popescu: smickles actually : some btc returned twice, some btc not returned.
smickles: if not uncharted, uncommon
Doffx: Yeah but you should be able to get the ave trade numbers from it since it was a running transaction log
smickles: mircea_popescu: oh yeah, i forgot about that bit
Doffx: If they still exsist
gigavps: https://twitter.com/glbse
gigavps: it exists
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually. << this is insanity, seriously. how is he to do trades manually ?
gigavps: but does it reflect the value of gigamining today?
mircea_popescu: actually, while at it, why not ask him to produce water manually. from like, some hydrogen gas.
gigavps: mircea_popescu i only produce methane gas
Doffx: It reflects the value at the time of Glbse closing
smickles: mircea_popescu: manually, like with individual share transfer contracts
Doffx: Its as close as you will ever get.
gigavps: you didn't answer my question
mircea_popescu: gigavps yes, methane gas, BUT NOT MANUALLY
mircea_popescu: <gigavps> https://twitter.com/glbse << speaking of this, someone should make a copy. iirc you can delete tweets.
smickles: mircea_popescu: and old tweets are disappeared by twitter
mircea_popescu: that too.
smickles: (unless you pay them for access)
gigavps: mircea_popescu someone on the forums posted the entire trading logs since glbse 2.0
Doffx: Has anyone logged this channel since it started?
BTC-Mining: <mircea_popescu> He'll have a list of which address holds how many shares. Someone with an address could sign his shares off to another address.
gigavps: BTC-Mining I WOULD BE BREAKING THE LAW
Doffx: cat | grep GLBSE
mircea_popescu: gigavps a ok that's useful.
smickles: yeah, public trading is a no-go (in 'merica)
gigavps: Doffx i will ask my question again. Does the last traded price on glbse reflect the damage they have caused?
BTC-Mining: Well in your case, yes, being in the US is unfortunate
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining, smickles : i'm just pointing out it's inhuman to expect someone to do this manually. esp on a high volume asset.
gigavps: they being GLBSE and nefario
Doffx: I said no, but that you could use the entire log to come up with the AVE price at the time of close.
Doffx: How else will you value it?
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, yeah, I certainly agree, but there are additional issues too
mircea_popescu: even with no consideration of any law, it's not something you can ask of people any more than you can ask them to build you a house out of dry sand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.00043641 = 2.6128 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00043612 = 17.314 BTC [-]
Doffx: Your going to have to do something like that eventually regardless if you get the glbse info back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 513 @ 0.00043563 = 0.2235 BTC [-]
gigavps: Doffx i cannot
smickles: Doffx: the data is currently unknowable :/
gigavps: i can probably make something to pay everyone coupon payments once i have the data from glbse
Doffx: I have no doubt you will come up with something fair.
gigavps: the only reason BTC-Mining owns so many gigamining shares was to flip them when they could be traded
Doffx: Some back = better than Nothing
mircea_popescu: Doffx i have logs of tiems i'm on.
Doffx: I log everything you say too.
thestringpuller: lol logs
mircea_popescu: Doffx one day it will be worth it's weight in bitcoin
Doffx: I'm currently writing a mircea_popescu tell all book from the Logs.
Doffx: Its one page so far.
mircea_popescu: nude pix ?
gigavps: only of -pr
Doffx: Of the girl with a title that says " I told you so"
Doffx: :)
mircea_popescu: lol
Doffx: I bet that nude picks of mircea_popescu would sell better than the girl if priced right.
Doffx: Curiosity I bet, how scary is this dude
BTC-Mining: Hmm, but would it be illegal to merely transfer shares upon request? I'd assume AML would be required for that.
gigavps: sounds like Doffx is going to be bidding
Doffx: .00000001
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty scary.
gigavps: BTC-Mining glbse has royally effed 1000s of people
mircea_popescu: well... 100s.
Doffx: haha
mircea_popescu: my ego is kinda stonework & masonry. pretty big, but also pretty uninflatable.
gigavps: nice
Doffx: Only channel I logged was btcst that was for Pirate tidbits.
Doffx: I dont bother anymore.
thestringpuller: logging is hard with irssi
mircea_popescu: there's little difference between assbot and twitter anyway, seeing how it just echos
thestringpuller: dis here
smickles: thestringpuller: irssi logs hard?
thestringpuller: to setup with my tgumbs
jurov: randall munroe is following bitcoinland, too http://xkcd.com/1124/
smickles: I have trouble with my tgumbs too. I just don't understand them
mircea_popescu: he's in thw wot even
smickles: mircea_popescu: i've seen him on #bitcoin
smickles: ;;seen #bitcoin rmonroe
gribble: I have not seen rmonroe.
smickles: not lately, apparently
mircea_popescu: gribble lies
smickles: he used to chat there a little, then he idled for months
smickles: i wonder if he even does that now
smickles: well, he's idle there
smickles: i wonder if he checks it anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00043891 = 4.3891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00044 = 24.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00044236 = 19.5081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00044277 = 10.3165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1606 @ 0.00044306 = 0.7116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00044336 = 0.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35619 @ 0.0004438 = 15.8077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.00044394 = 24.6831 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00044408 = 4.7978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00044435 = 16.1299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46145 @ 0.00044437 = 20.5055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00044527 = 11.3544 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: eeee
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00044539 = 19.1518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00044549 = 2.1829 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.0004457 = 20.6359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10026 @ 0.00044695 = 4.4811 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: whoop whooo
smickles: )0_o-i
thestringpuller: munroe is cool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00043563 = 7.5425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00043543 = 1.9755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31349 @ 0.00043537 = 13.6484 BTC [-]
jurov: mircea_popescu, the dividends are announced in rss, too?
jurov: or on twatter...i can't find any sample
smickles: jurov: assbot announces the dividends for mpex listing
smickles: somehow
kakobrekla: somewhat.
kakobrekla: yeah :)
gigavps: somewhere :p
jurov: and pulls them from where?
kakobrekla: twitter
jurov: who programmed assbot? parsing function would be kindly appreciated
kakobrekla: It was I, LeClerc.
kakobrekla: give me a sec or so im in the middle of something
Azelphur: jurov: I wrote a bot that does the same thing, it's on github at https://github.com/Azelphur/BitcoinAssets
smickles: :D
thestringpuller: i want the mint chart api lol
smickles: glwt
jurov: thanks!
smickles: support@mint.com
smickles: lol, that would be amazing if they were gave you the code to the charts :D
smickles: does this make sense?:
smickles: No amendment, change, or modification to this agreement will be effective or enforceable unless the text of it is appended to the end of a copy of this agreement and any previous amendments, changes, or modifications, which is signed by all parties involved, and signed by all parties involved.
jurov: ...copy of this agreement INCLUDING any previous...
jurov: feels clearer
smickles: ah, it does
smickles: thx jurov :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20851 @ 0.00043537 = 9.0779 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5349 @ 0.00043478 = 2.3256 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov yes
mircea_popescu: Azelphur speaking of that bot, how's dev coming along ?
kakobrekla: jurov that alzy script wont give you dividends afaik, see pm
Azelphur: yea, mine doesn't parse dividends
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: still need to get working on it
mircea_popescu: smickles that sounded painful.
mircea_popescu: but as a matter of principle, i don't think it's a good idea to allow such a thing. you will conceivably end up with 2mb of signatureporn
jurov: mostly done it using RSS instead and that's a bit different... so i'm on my own anyway
mircea_popescu: im not sure there is a rss feed of dividends ><
mircea_popescu: is there ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bto7vH-rz-E
smickles: recursive gpg --verify ftw
smickles: !
kakobrekla: o, this is new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745.0
mircea_popescu: talk to me in 5 years, when we're back rubbing sticks together cause you fucked up civilisation.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla bitcoinica umm... 5.0 ?
kakobrekla: it accualy uses their codebase rofl
mircea_popescu: Nice, but you could have at least plugged the most obvious security holes of the Bitcoinica source code before re-using it.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wunderbar.
dub: haha
mircea_popescu: Thanks Davout,
mircea_popescu: I handed over to the developper and meanwhile added a routine to check and correct users leverage.
mircea_popescu: zee develloper
dub: Bitfinex, How does it works?
mircea_popescu: it works like majigz
mircea_popescu: anyway, this double p thing is quite fetching. i think i will double all my p's from now on given that english uses entirely too few p's in the first pplace
mircea_popescu: and never fucken doubles them
kakobrekla: you are pprolly onto something
mircea_popescu: "I'm having mixed feeling towards this project. The security measures you have implemented seem really great, and inspire great confidence in your service. Using the source of a service that had some major issues, not so much."
mircea_popescu: if that forum ever goes away i shall miss it
mircea_popescu: Hi Mushoz, I understand this concern, there was a general lack of security features, that we tried to correct to the best, and that's why we're in beta. Hey, we already had a bug with Davout, because no check of the leverage!
smickles: pput a sock in it
smickles: ;D
mircea_popescu: this vaguely reminds me of the hapy-go-lucky attitude of that bitdaytrader dood, who was explaining how his best friend made over 21mn btc (by exploiting one of the umpteen bbilion holes in his "code")
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1220 @ 0.00043478 = 0.5304 BTC [-]
jurov: First, we invested so reserve funds adnd are ready (able) to take up to 400 btc and 4000 usd loss if shit should happen during the beta.
jurov: sounds almost like a bounty :)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.70000, Best ask: 11.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.70000, 24 hour volume: 34341.96626791, 24 hour low: 11.47110, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.69566
mircea_popescu: whew. for a moment there i thought we're at 10 now.
mircea_popescu: WAIT!
mircea_popescu: omg nanotube stole my ticker format!
mircea_popescu: THIS IS INFRINGATORY THEFT
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 11.70000 U.S. dollars = 8.96895362 Euros
EskimoBob: LOL! "International Karmic Bitcoin Bank of Ponyville"
EskimoBob: 10% weekly :)
mircea_popescu: come to think about it... developopper sounds better than developper.
mircea_popescu: "Finally to answer your specific example: a user balance won't be able to be withdrawn to negative because we would have checked it (and the balances work without bugs)."
dub: hmm
mircea_popescu: this is too good. i wish for myself this proscriptive ability where you draw the limits of what may to fail aforehand.
mircea_popescu: sure takes all the scary out of risk management.
kakobrekla: im confused why no trolls are screaming 'scam'
mircea_popescu: cause it doesn't seem at all legitimate ?
mircea_popescu: Quote from: davout on Today at 01:28:33 PM
mircea_popescu: What about the infamous race conditions ?
mircea_popescu: According to my guy he used a hook called "after_commit" where needed, but I'm currently reviewing the code. Meanwhile if you can execute it that means he didn't do enough!
mircea_popescu: hey!
kakobrekla: hm if he is reviewing, why didnt he just code it himself
mircea_popescu: doesn't it sound a lot more important this way ?
EskimoBob: we can all feel warm and fuzzy now :)
dub: the english is too good for alberto
mircea_popescu: dub he's the lover.
dub: the fuck is this gox bot doing
mircea_popescu: hm?