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mircea_popescu: i guess everyone has already seen http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00043162 = 2.149 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you are alive
mircea_popescu: yea ?
thestringpuller: you and smickles have been very helpful
thestringpuller: for that: thank you
mircea_popescu: hey, yw.
mircea_popescu: what did that smickles character do this time!
thestringpuller: he let me bounce my ideas off of him
thestringpuller: advice is worth a lot
mircea_popescu: hehe cool!
thestringpuller: i may be able to bring the money gram prices to negligible
thestringpuller: i read more about free models after talking with you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26414 @ 0.00043162 = 11.4008 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's always good then!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so ultimately i came to the conclusion maybe personalized liiquidation solutions would be more affordable for both parties. one peronalized solution would be a bill pay service for rg
mircea_popescu: does this scale ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004338 = 5.4225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00043381 = 13.5783 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: yea like bitpay but its customized i suppose
thestringpuller: not so much payment as liquidation
noagendamarket: we need a plugin for quicken or mint.com
thestringpuller: i can do mint
mircea_popescu: actually a get-btc straight from mint would be great.
noagendamarket: need to track the prices at the time you use the coins ,capital gains tax etc
noagendamarket: gives me a headache to think about lol
mircea_popescu: most jurisdiction have sane tax laws
mircea_popescu: (as in, taxable when realised)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.86438937 = 864.3894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 920 @ 0.76062356 = 699.7737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 880 @ 0.65720131 = 578.3372 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 740 @ 0.55444696 = 410.2908 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: alot of puts...
thestringpuller: noagendamarket: im.actually.working on that for personal.use
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun
noagendamarket: nice
thestringpuller: not mint though
thestringpuller: just using terminal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00300376 = 0.3004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.0033009 = 0.9903 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DRt78Vne
Chaaang-Noi: if not seen
copumpkin: oh
copumpkin: european date order
copumpkin: was confused there for a bit :)
Chaaang-Noi: :)
Chaaang-Noi: btw i did not leak this, its public
BTC-Mining: It really looks like Nefario is chickening out of legal responsibility, trying to make everything disappear.
BTC-Mining: I only saw tidbits quoted before.
Chaaang-Noi: yeah
Chaaang-Noi: i dont think anyone is after him
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: it is
Chaaang-Noi: esp since he did not collect aml stuff after all
Diablo-D3: I dunno, at least I bought back half the dmc shares
Diablo-D3: so theres that
Chaaang-Noi: he wants to pretend that someone is forcing him to do something but i dont think that is the case
noagendamarket: we are so screwed
Chaaang-Noi: well i kinda hope the govt does not go after nefario
Chaaang-Noi: im only 50% done as the log is loooong but it just looks like nefario wants to cover his ass
Chaaang-Noi: it also looks like more than 50% support him
Diablo-D3: yeah
Diablo-D3: I just
Diablo-D3: dont get it =/
noagendamarket: It doesnt make any sense to me :/
noagendamarket: Maybe he just cant be bothered anymore
noagendamarket: lol
Chaaang-Noi: i think he thinks that if he shuts this down nothing bad will happen to him
Chaaang-Noi: and if he keeps going he risks one day getting fucked hard by a lot of people
Chaaang-Noi: lot of govt people
Chaaang-Noi: i do understand why he is shutting it down
Chaaang-Noi: but he started this out being very anon and then changed it into what it is today in 3 versions
Chaaang-Noi: he really fucked up, he did this to himself
Chaaang-Noi: despite people telling him over and over not to
noagendamarket: we didnt buy shares in Nefario we bought them in bitcoinglobal.
Chaaang-Noi: more than 50% of bitcoin global voted to shut down GLBSE
Chaaang-Noi: are you one of the shareholders noagenda?
noagendamarket: there was npo point voting though
Chaaang-Noi: but there was a vote
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00043381 = 3.1668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16061 @ 0.00043401 = 6.9706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20839 @ 0.00043404 = 9.045 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: He refused to say anything and insists that there won't be any problems?
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't be surprised if he was ordered to shut it down but it was too minor for them to sanction Nefario more than that.
Diablo-D3: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/190343_440022752702093_1392987282_n.jpg
BTC-Mining: Maybe an order to close the website and interdiction to do anything related to securities for some years.
BTC-Mining: Or he's just scared.
Chaang-Noi: i think he just got scared
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi, where was that link?
Chaang-Noi: if he really had some sort of thing with the govt aginst me he would not have sent me back my BTC like a week after he delisted me without my AML stuff
Chaang-Noi: was on the forum BTC-Mining from christo i think
noagendamarket: hes probably less scared of bitcoiners than the government :P
noagendamarket: unlike keyboard warriors the government can really fuck your shit up
Chaang-Noi: yeah why did he send me back BTC if he had the govt involved?
BTC-Mining: Mormons usually endorse republicans?
Azelphur: you guys know he did an interview and explained all this right?
noagendamarket: he explained shit
noagendamarket: and hes operating in bad faith
Azelphur: how else exactly would he shut down cleanly?
Chaang-Noi: send double payments?
noagendamarket: he probably thinks he did
noagendamarket: its all in his imaginatuion
Azelphur: he actually did
Azelphur: I know someone who got double paid lol
noagendamarket: the easy way to do it is just let people withdraw using their account on site
Azelphur: yea, would have probably been easier.
noagendamarket: then there is the way a retard would do it
noagendamarket: never go full retard
noagendamarket: Im done covering for nefario and he can dig himself out of his own mess.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00043204 = 11.8379 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26297 @ 0.00043404 = 11.4139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00043493 = 0.9321 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00043162 = 4.1151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29012 @ 0.00043145 = 12.5172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12954 @ 0.00043115 = 5.5851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24099 @ 0.00043115 = 10.3903 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4701 @ 0.0004306 = 2.0243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19748 @ 0.00043165 = 8.5242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37507 @ 0.0004306 = 16.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46557 @ 0.00043493 = 20.249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.00043601 = 1.4894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3598 @ 0.0004368 = 1.5716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00043682 = 0.8863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00043447 = 22.7228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0004306 = 0.732 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043215 = 1.0372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00043215 = 8.2109 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00043215 = 5.4883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10962 @ 0.00043215 = 4.7372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6248 @ 0.00043272 = 2.7036 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26152 @ 0.00043272 = 11.3165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25648 @ 0.00043333 = 11.114 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9738 @ 0.00043215 = 4.2083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25562 @ 0.00043167 = 11.0343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00043333 = 8.6666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 338 @ 0.00043167 = 0.1459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26062 @ 0.00043133 = 11.2413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13438 @ 0.00043133 = 5.7962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28961 @ 0.00043066 = 12.4723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4393 @ 0.0004306 = 1.8916 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4958 @ 0.00043057 = 2.1348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15042 @ 0.00043057 = 6.4766 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00043036 = 3.3998 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0004303 = 3.7436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6660 @ 0.00043024 = 2.8654 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043333 = 2.2533 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: did I miss anything interesting?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 731 @ 0.10257112 = 74.9795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28224 @ 0.00043047 = 12.1496 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5732 @ 0.00043134 = 2.4724 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00043134 = 3.1781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16732 @ 0.0004312 = 7.2148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 9 @ 0.10121872 = 0.911 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6944 @ 0.0004312 = 2.9943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40556 @ 0.00043065 = 17.4654 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15844 @ 0.00043065 = 6.8232 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00043024 = 2.8998 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24316 @ 0.00043016 = 10.4598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00043288 = 7.9096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47872 @ 0.00043261 = 20.7099 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6528 @ 0.00043261 = 2.8241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48413 @ 0.00043167 = 20.8984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1469 @ 0.00043333 = 0.6366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00043335 = 1.7412 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: in like a day this is the only post here <kakobrekla> http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102
Chaaang-Noi: its a good post but no one even responded
Chaaang-Noi: this is a dead or soon to be dead chan
pigeons: no you're just on ignore ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16589 @ 0.00043016 = 7.1359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16511 @ 0.00042997 = 7.0992 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: lol ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189 @ 0.00042997 = 0.0813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34211 @ 0.00042963 = 14.6981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32482 @ 0.00043335 = 14.0761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11218 @ 0.00043376 = 4.8659 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: anyone alive out there?
BTC-Mining: I am
thestringpuller: I'm attempting to launch a service tonight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00043192 = 10.3661 BTC [-]
FabianB_: thestringpuller: what kind of?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15789 @ 0.00042963 = 6.7834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22111 @ 0.00042951 = 9.4969 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: FabianB_: I'm launching a liquidation service. The main product is turning bitcoins into cash via moneygram within 1 hour
thestringpuller: the side product is personalized liquidity solutions for people who need to pay expenses in bitcoin but don't want to deal with fiat at all
thestringpuller: hopefully rg will be my first client for that latter
jurov: so.i can't discuss mpex on btctalk anymore.. there's always somebody who says it's child porn site
thestringpuller: dude btctalk is fucking annoying
thestringpuller: there is no child porn on that site
thestringpuller: just a /b/ like board where girls post nudie pics
thestringpuller: which isn't even really porn
thestringpuller: bageezus
thestringpuller: no one complains about fucking reddit.com/r/gonewild
jurov: i know. but btctalk is practically lost cause now.
thestringpuller: le sigh
thestringpuller: too many trolls
thestringpuller: everything encounters the eternal september it seems
thestringpuller: #bitcoin-assets is the last bastion of hope
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00043192 = 4.6647 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11882 @ 0.00043376 = 5.1539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6118 @ 0.00043403 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: jurov: mircea_popescu loved the live ticker
jurov: yes, he helped me a bit with it
thestringpuller: well jurov I may end up using coinbr extensively if this service takes off to hedge fees
thestringpuller: from moneygram buttfucking me on the price
jurov: thx, i just got idea that kakobrekla's clients may need to hedge BTCUSD too
jurov: we'll se when he's around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16006 @ 0.00043403 = 6.9471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00043154 = 0.8199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00043059 = 8.6979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00043059 = 6.0283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21376 @ 0.00043403 = 9.2778 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00043464 = 1.2709 BTC [+]