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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00039709 = 1.906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 21080 @ 0.0004259 = 8.978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 21 @ 0.00351853 = 0.0739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 79 @ 0.00345961 = 0.2733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17529 @ 0.00039674 = 6.9545 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00039641 = 12.4473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00039614 = 2.3654 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00039709 = 1.4295 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.0003964 = 3.2108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15566 @ 0.0003964 = 6.1704 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5972 @ 0.00039709 = 2.3714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00039765 = 1.8006 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1000001 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: welp, Ive been doing the math here
copumpkin: ewww math
Diablo-D3: if nefario gets away with it, thats about 2 years of lost profits.
Diablo-D3: maybe more
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.003399 = 0.017 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00339999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 9 @ 0.0976 = 0.8784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5820 @ 0.00042234 = 2.458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12500 @ 0.0004291 = 5.3638 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: makes me wonder if its even worth it
dub: wha happen?
Diablo-D3: dub: nefario stole about 1600 BTC of assets from DMC
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 200 @ 0.0096 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: maybe Ill just let him win
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 100 @ 0.00950001 = 0.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: pirate won, bitcoinica won, and now nefario will win
copumpkin: dub: somebody set up us the bomb
Diablo-D3: maybe the people I know are right
Diablo-D3: bitcoin was a scam and I should have listened
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 16 @ 0.0976 = 1.5616 BTC [+]
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: we're all just props in a massive scam against you
copumpkin: I am, at least
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1005 = 0.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 36 @ 0.100461 = 3.6166 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: oh shush copumpkin
Diablo-D3: Im not in the mood
copumpkin: sowwy :(
Diablo-D3: maybe its 4 years down the drain
Diablo-D3: Ive fought for bitcoin for the past two years, and now Im two years behind on dmc because of nefario
Diablo-D3: all a waste
PsychoticBoy: If you bought hardware, did not do your swapping trades, all would be just fine diablo
Diablo-D3: all you fucking people think is about mining
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25589 @ 0.00039681 = 10.154 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: It`s in your ¨initial¨ contract
Diablo-D3: yes, as one part of it!
PsychoticBoy: mining company is about mining or am I the stupid one now
Diablo-D3: I think Im going to tell the company I was going to do the dedi/cloud stuff with that Im no longer interested
PsychoticBoy: tell your to you you mean by company
PsychoticBoy: there is no board\
PsychoticBoy: so
PsychoticBoy: its all you
Diablo-D3: what the fuck are you even talking about
PsychoticBoy: dmc
PsychoticBoy: its all you
PsychoticBoy: no board, direction
Diablo-D3: DMC was going to resell dedi/cloud products in btc.
Diablo-D3: theres no point in pursuing it anymore if 2 years of profits from that are going to be sunk.
PsychoticBoy: you told me, I dont believe in that , ask rg
Diablo-D3: rg wanted to resell dmc's offering.
Diablo-D3: but fuck it
Diablo-D3: I just dont give a shit now
Diablo-D3: whats the point
PsychoticBoy: I dont hate you Diablo, but I think you just failed
Diablo-D3: even usagi, who I considered a trusted advisor through me under the bus
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17011 @ 0.00039681 = 6.7501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 557 @ 0.0003964 = 0.2208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29552 @ 0.00039614 = 11.7067 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: yeah, I did fail. I trusted people, and the moment something happens Im the one left holding the bag.
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: why was suspending dividends on DMC even a vote?
PsychoticBoy: I voted NO
PsychoticBoy: I have 12 dmc ;)
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: because there were a lot of cheap assets and we hit the market bottom
rg: i didn't 'want' to
copumpkin: I mean, dividend decisions aren't usually up for shareholder vote
rg: i was considering it as an option
copumpkin: it's a management decision in real companies
rg: and wtf happened
copumpkin: whether to pay dividends
rg: wat are you all complaining about
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.1017 = 0.7119 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: because this is fucking bitcoin
Diablo-D3: I cant take a fucking shit without shareholder approval
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: no shareholder is ever going to vote anything but "more money" :P
copumpkin: it's just stupid for it to be a shareholder vote
PsychoticBoy: indeed
PsychoticBoy: moar
PsychoticBoy: ;)
copumpkin: furthermore, it's stupid for a company to be able to vote on itself
jamie-lang: *poorly
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: dmc never voted on itself, it cant
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00039765 = 2.0678 BTC [+]
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: oh, I thought glbse allowed that
Diablo-D3: nope.
copumpkin: so it's glbse that requires that you get a shareholder vote for dividend changes?
copumpkin: or was that you?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 78 @ 0.00339999 = 0.2652 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: over half of issued shares voted, the vote was 10 to 1
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.099 = 0.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 40 @ 0.031 = 1.24 BTC [+]
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: that's fine, I was just wondering whether that was a glbse requirement or whether you chose to
Diablo-D3: I chose to.
copumpkin: ah
Diablo-D3: the contract openly lets me borrow from current and future dividends if I deem it necessary
Diablo-D3: seeing as I was about to announce the deal on dedi/cloud shit, we could double down on asset purchases for a short time
Diablo-D3: the motion was for three months
Diablo-D3: get the shit while its cheap instead of having to pay more later
Diablo-D3: but whatever
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 8 @ 0.099 = 0.792 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: not only that, as part of the negotiations with usagi, I was going to just reverse the motion anyhow
copumpkin: ah
Diablo-D3: even though he voted as the majority in that vote
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 177 @ 0.00039614 = 0.0701 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2323 @ 0.00039557 = 0.9189 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: I dont know what the fuck people want out of me
copumpkin: I think that forum should be dismantled :P
Diablo-D3: I was getting usagi to insure and manage the company assets so I could work on DMC fulltime
copumpkin: it's a poisonous community
copumpkin: lots of good information on it
gigavps: DMC is still going?
copumpkin: but it's buried in a sea of diarrhea
Diablo-D3: I was doing the whole dedi/cloud stuff in the background
Diablo-D3: and when its finally all coming together
Diablo-D3: nefario just comes in and fucks it all up
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.10499 = 5.2495 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: I mean, fuck, I own half of fucking obsi.abmo
Diablo-D3: how many fucking companies on glbse own half of another fucking company
Diablo-D3: usagi: no, but thats not what you said at the time
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 20100 @ 0.00043672 = 8.7781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9407 @ 0.00039557 = 3.7211 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: you're only saying this shit so nefario doesnt shut your shit down too
Diablo-D3: if I'm a scammer, you're one too
Diablo-D3: usagi: I wanted cpa to insure it and nyan or bmf to manage it
Diablo-D3: usagi: return it to what?
Diablo-D3: its not returned to me
copumpkin: this is what I call a bidwall: http://snapplr.com/hx3x
Diablo-D3: usagi: you lose it all? fuck you dude
Diablo-D3: _I_ lose it all
Diablo-D3: 2 years of fucking hard work
Diablo-D3: gone
Diablo-D3: thats how long Ive been here
Diablo-D3: this is how long Ive been spreading the word of bitcoin
PsychoticBoy: spread my ass
Diablo-D3: DMC was to be the company that brings all the major investors to bitcoin
PsychoticBoy: ?me is done whit this shit!
Diablo-D3: I apologize for one thing and one thing only: I thought it was possible.
Diablo-D3: apparently I was wrong.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00039557 = 5.1424 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I worked 2 fucking years trying to turn bitcoin into something that could do a lot of good
Diablo-D3: and guess what, I was wrong!
PsychoticBoy: yeah you did this, you did that, bla bla no, next subject
Diablo-D3: Ive been wrong the whole fucking time
PsychoticBoy: indeed
assbot: [GLBSE] [CBGB] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: no, I think Im done with it.
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: I wouldn't take it too personally. It's a raging lynchmob on there
Diablo-D3: you convinced me to burn a bridge between me an obsi, you burned a bridge when you threw me under that bus, and nefario cant even be trusted to do shit
copumpkin: they even accuse me of being a scamer!
copumpkin: me!
copumpkin: scammer
jamie-lang: http://wild-life1111.blogspot.com/2011/08/cute-cats_10.html <----cats
copumpkin: jamie-lang: meow
jamie-lang: woof
PsychoticBoy: lol
copumpkin: oink
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: I just dont care anymore.
Diablo-D3: this isnt the bitcoin I started with
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 2 @ 0.00999999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: this used to be a small group of really nice people
PsychoticBoy: I am nice :D
PsychoticBoy: and I am here since day 1
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: I'm pretty nice
jamie-lang: Now it's a moderately large group of strange people
copumpkin: I only joined last june
Diablo-D3: I dont know how sipa and gmaxwell and the rest do it
jamie-lang: Who are you people anyway
copumpkin: jamie-lang: yeah, I am strange
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32174 @ 0.00039557 = 12.7271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 240 @ 0.00039526 = 0.0949 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: anyhow, nefario says hes letting this up to "shareholder vote"
Diablo-D3: since no one can actually view the outcome of this vote that I trust, whats the point
Diablo-D3: and hes probably going to steal the DMC shares from usagi before the vote
Diablo-D3: so nefario gets what he wants
Diablo-D3: he gets to keep the 1600 BTC in assets and claim he liquidated them and pay out like 10 BTC
Diablo-D3: and call it even
Diablo-D3: that scam is so brilliant I wish I thought of it
jamie-lang: what scam?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00039513 = 10.0363 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: jamie-lang: nefario locked dmc's account
Diablo-D3: and now hes going to claim to liquidate it
jamie-lang: So DMC is the scam?
Diablo-D3: jamie-lang: no
Diablo-D3: DMC is my company
Diablo-D3: nefario says shareholders pressured him to do this
Diablo-D3: no one did
PsychoticBoy: I could had trade 9 dmc for 1 asicminer but i was not intrested
Diablo-D3: usagi: no
Diablo-D3: just you and one other guy
jamie-lang: This doesn't make much sense
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00043672 = 2.533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 22000 @ 0.00043719 = 9.6182 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: one person out traded you
Diablo-D3: usagi: how do you think I ended up with almost 4000 shares of asicminer
Diablo-D3: it wasnt from you.
Diablo-D3: not all of it, anyways
Diablo-D3: nope.
Diablo-D3: Im not.
Diablo-D3: because Im not a fucking asshole who pastes private logs on the forum.
PsychoticBoy: in the end all pieces will come together, nefario knows who traded it
Diablo-D3: usagi: yes, but Im still the one that lost the biggest.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1786 @ 0.00039513 = 0.7057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12075 @ 0.00039765 = 4.8016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9739 @ 0.00039811 = 3.8772 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: I could have had a large company that helped a lot of people
Diablo-D3: instead, everyone loses out
Diablo-D3: my shareholders lose, the people of maine lose, everyone who uses bitcoins lose
Diablo-D3: and my one fucking chance to fix this shithole of a planet, I lose that.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1017 = 0.3051 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: so dont you dare tell me this is bigger than me
Diablo-D3: it always was
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 22500 @ 0.00043457 = 9.7778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35661 @ 0.00039811 = 14.197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0003993 = 1.3177 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5582 @ 0.00039943 = 2.2296 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I took the biggest fucking problems I thought I could handle if I tried hard enough and went at it
Diablo-D3: apparently I didnt try hard enough
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 8 @ 0.13999999 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.5 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.00999999 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00039498 = 0.1975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.0003949 = 0.2369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10100 @ 0.00043719 = 4.4156 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 30341 @ 0.00043839 = 13.3012 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.0003949 = 18.4023 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00039479 = 1.2238 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 5 @ 0.000239 = 0.0012 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 100 @ 0.5 = 50 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 7 @ 0.88 = 6.16 BTC [-]
dub: man
dub: this channel is emo
dub: goat and diablo having a good old crank
dub: ;;ud crank
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1073 @ 0.00039593 = 0.4248 BTC [+]
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crank | Slang, noun. “Crank” is slang for a low purity, crystallized Methamphetamine that is administered in a powder form. Crank, like all other Methamphe...
dub: WRONG UD
dub: ;;ud cry wank
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cry%20wank | The ultimate display of self love/loathing, rubbing one out while weeping, superceded only by the ultimate cry wank, involving weeping while wankin...
Diablo-D3: thats disgusting, dub.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.099 = 0.297 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and why the fuck would goat be doing that
Diablo-D3: he won
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi now thinks I'm dishonest!
Diablo-D3: he walked off with all that money and didnt get shit from anyone
dub: and doesnt afraid of nefario
dub: all this is tl;dr
dub: I still don't know wha happen with DMC
dub: I am concerned that my DMC share that I spent 1 satoshi on is even less valuable however
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 259 @ 0.00043883 = 0.1137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4400 @ 0.00043457 = 1.9121 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: dub: its now worth 0.
dub: Diablo-D3: SCAMMER
kakobrekla: :D
Diablo-D3: yes, nefario is
OneMiner: DMC is no more?
Diablo-D3: dub: basically, nefario is going to end up with 1600 BTC in assets, "liquidate" them, and pay DMC shareholders 50 BTC, while keeping the rest
Diablo-D3: dub: he says hes going to let the shareholders vote, but hes stripping the largest DMC shareholders of their shares before the vote
nefario: Diablo-D3 has been suspended as the admin of DMC for gross incompetence
nefario: pending an investigation and shareholder vote on whether to keep him or not
Diablo-D3: nefario: the only one that needs an investigation is you
OneMiner: WTF? I'm so confused.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: nefario can no longer be trusted
OneMiner: Is there a link that goes with this?
nefario: if he is removed a suitable replacement will be found, if we are unable to find a replacement DMC will be liquidated and the funds returned to shareholders
Diablo-D3: even if nefario apologizes to the DMC shareholders, its already done with
Diablo-D3: nefario: how the fuck do you replace me?
Diablo-D3: dumbass.
dub: nefario: why was this initiated?
nefario: from what I've learned you weren't doing anything except devaluing DMC
Diablo-D3: dub: nefario wants the money
dub: nefario: serious question, shareholders complained?
nefario: ouch, Diablo-D3 your ego must be smarting
nefario: dub: a lot of shareholders complained
Diablo-D3: nefario: not really, but hey, you win
nefario: for weeks
Diablo-D3: run off with the money
Diablo-D3: I cant afford to fight you, especially with DMC's assets locked up
Diablo-D3: and it'd probably take all of them anyhow
nefario: what do you mean fight me?
Diablo-D3: you have stolen 1600 BTC of assets from DMC.
dub: right, so this is what I expected tbh
Diablo-D3: I demand that they be returned.
nefario: I've done no such thing
Diablo-D3: nefario: and I demand you turn over a list of shareholders and the number of shares they own
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7600 @ 0.00043227 = 3.2853 BTC [-]
dub: lol
Diablo-D3: they paid to be invested in DMC, and they deserve all future dividends
dub: thats pirate talk
Diablo-D3: not only have you stolen 1600 BTC of assets from them, you've stolen all future dividends
OneMiner: I'm curious, under what authority/conditions can assets be siezed and new admins installed?
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I dont know how the fuck he is even going to install someone else
Diablo-D3: DMC is mine.
Diablo-D3: what, is he going to call up the company I was working a reseller contract out with and steal the contract too/
OneMiner: I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: nefario was paid 20 btc to do a job, and now hes defaulting on his contract
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4405 @ 0.00043115 = 1.8992 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: there is no reason to think he wont do this to everyone else as well
OneMiner: Do you have a statement on the claim that you were devaluing DMC?
OneMiner: What is that based on?
dub: !pl
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: Ive made two major statements already
OneMiner: I've missed them.
OneMiner: I'll scroll up.
dub: !pl DMC 1@2012-01-01
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: DMC [1@2BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.05999999 BTC. Capital gain: -1.94000001 BTC. Total: -1.91364187 BTC. (-95.7%)
dub: ^ statement
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: but notice nefario did _nothing_ to stop the fixed mhash bond holders from selling bonds and destroy the market
Diablo-D3: 1mhs bonds went from the 0.30s down to the 0.10s over a month period
Diablo-D3: wheres the nefario witch hunt there?
OneMiner: Ya, I took one look at them and cringed.
Diablo-D3: DMC lost about 1000 BTC there
Diablo-D3: I stopped it from becoming a complete loss
Diablo-D3: that could have been a 3000 BTC loss and I got out while doubling the mhash we had
dub: how is that anything to do with nefario?
dub: the market decided that
OneMiner: It's a bet that network hashrate will reduce. Fixed mining is a hedge.
Diablo-D3: dub: wheres his investigation there?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6200 @ 0.00043227 = 2.6801 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: why didnt he lock their accounts?
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: basically, the fixed bond holders sold bonds for hardware that didnt exist
Diablo-D3: pocketed hundreds or thousands of btc
OneMiner: Now that sounds scammy.
Diablo-D3: then they pyramid pay it out until they buy asic hardware at a fraction of the cost
Diablo-D3: they keep most of the money, and the bond purchasers get fucked
Diablo-D3: they sold into the bid walls
Diablo-D3: I realized what they were doing and jumped out as fast as possible
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: but hey, its blame diablo day!
OneMiner: Well, snap. In the event of a default there wouldn't be mining hardware to sell. Yikes. I'll ask for pics if I decide to invest in one of these. :P
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: the loss could have been worse but I managed to make leave us with some assets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48800 @ 0.00039825 = 19.4346 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: but apparently its my fault for keeping DMC alive.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: its also my fault for becoming owner of half of obsi.abmo
OneMiner: Wow. So, prices were falling like rocks. You liquidated hardware (?) and then nefario steped in?
dub: I think its ultimately bad that nefario has stepped in here
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: liquidated bonds
dub: people putting money into DMC are idiots
dub: they deserve to lose
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: sold them and invested them in non-fixed asset backed shares
OneMiner: I see I see, so you raised more capital by releasing bonds. Diluting the market and then nefario steped in.
dub: the entire DMC idea is retarded and anyone with half a clue can see this
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: no
OneMiner: Arrgh
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: dmc owned bonds in other people's mining ops
OneMiner: lol
Diablo-D3: those other people decided to fuck bondholders
dub: caveat emptor imperialist pigdogs
Diablo-D3: I dropped the bonds at a loss but kept it from destroying dmc
Diablo-D3: nefario is now completing the job.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9727 @ 0.00039825 = 3.8738 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15473 @ 0.00039675 = 6.1389 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: he has made it clear on the DMC thread that he wants to fuck every DMC shareholder
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: and they dont even understand what he said
Diablo-D3: he said hes doing it "for the shareholders" and that "shareholders started it"
Diablo-D3: destroying every dime they put into DMC and keeping it for himself is not "for the shareholders"
mircea_popescu: <OneMiner> I'm trying to wrap my head around this. << you're not alone.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I dont get when the fuck we elected nefario as our SEC either
OneMiner: Sooooo, because you sold assets (owned by DMC) in preperation for some future move, he's siezed the BTC that DMC had in GLBSE? Do I have it right now? I'll feel stupid if not! D:
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: almost
Diablo-D3: I sold assets dmc owned to buy other assets.
Diablo-D3: all on glbse.
dub: no
dub: you sold the promise of future assets for mining bonds
Diablo-D3: dub: no, current assets with future value
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1095 = 0.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 6 @ 0.1095 = 0.657 BTC [+]
OneMiner: Ah ha! So he siezed all DMC assets that took the form of bonds. In other words, everything of DMC's he could get his hands on.
dub: the 'promise of future value' backed by your percieved expertise in mining
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: exactly
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: he cant touch the upcoming dedi/cloud stuff
dub: when in fact, you have no expertise and there was never any value in DMC
Diablo-D3: but he can block all dividends by destroying dmc's shares
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: so I end up with money and no one to send it to
nefario: Diablo-D3: you know, if you wanted to continue paying DMC shareholders dividends it could easily be arranged
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dub: and you created a mechanism for people to profit from swapping your worthless shares for mining bonds
OneMiner: Wow, the more I hear the more screwed it sounds.
Diablo-D3: nefario: no one trusts you with the money.
Diablo-D3: no one will EVER trust you with money again
nefario: no one?
nefario: really?
dub: and, surprise, people took advantage of that to align DMC bonds with their actual value
OneMiner: Is there some kind of agreement I can read concerning this process?
dub: which is 0 BTC
dub: and always was
OneMiner: Not agreement, documentation I mean.
nefario: OneMiner: what process?
Diablo-D3: even if you unlock the account right now, Im going to figure out some way to move DMC off GLBSE
dub: so all these shareholders claiming injury can fuck off imo
nefario: I won't be unlocking the account until after the shareholder vote
OneMiner: You know, like under what coinditions this kind of action can take place.
dub: nefario: stepping in to this train wreck is bad for GLBSE
nefario: actually this is the first case
dub: nefario: if you can roll back I would
nefario: dub: can't be helped
dub: fuck the shareholders
nefario: GLBSE isn't just an exchange
copumpkin: nefario: so you can't show people their shareholders because you'd need to change the TOS, but you can do this?
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: so I dont know what to do
nefario: copumpkin: TOS can be changed
nefario: but I don't see why it should
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: if I continue with the dedi/cloud stuff, people are going to attack customers saying nefario said dmc was a scam
nefario: who has a right to know if someone owns their asset
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: which harms shareholders, of which I cant pay
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assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2319 @ 0.00043325 = 1.0047 BTC [+]
copumpkin: nefario: I just mean that you're using the TOS as an excuse to not show shareholders in one case, but then unilaterally move in and make an executive decision regarding DMC
nefario: Diablo-D3 has never asked me for a list of shareholders
copumpkin: I saw him do so earlier in here
OneMiner: Perhaps this can go another way? Is it possible that there's a middle ground here?
nefario: and he's not got any record of it
Diablo-D3: I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED YOU TO ADD THAT FUNCTIONALITY
nefario: because he didn't ask
Diablo-D3: Goddamned fucking liar.
nefario: then show me a record
nefario: email
nefario: irc log
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: damage is already done.
nefario: anything
copumpkin: nefario: he's asking you now. Why is that not enough?
Diablo-D3: nefario cant fix that.
Diablo-D3: even if he goes on the dmc thread and apologize and say he was wrong, thats it
Diablo-D3: theres no fixing this
nefario: copumpkin: Because he's not running DMC, at best until after shareholders agree to it, at worst never
nefario: it's up to the shareholders when there is a vote
copumpkin: can you show me where on the TOS it allows you to do this?
mircea_popescu: well, so in the end was the previous voting fixed by fake shares nefario ?
nefario: what?
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copumpkin: aha, #9
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 held a shareholder vote
mircea_popescu: maybe a week or 2 ago
nefario: People seem to think that GLBSE is only a market and that nothing should interfere in the market
nefario: but thats not the case
mircea_popescu: there were accusations of impropriety at the time, as in,
copumpkin: I think it's just misleading, honestly
mircea_popescu: treasury shares voted.
nefario: copumpkin: whats missleading
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: treasury shares cant vote
Diablo-D3: only shareholders can
copumpkin: you need to make it clear that people listing their securities on your exchange are accepting your pseudolegal oversight as well as your exchange services
mircea_popescu: yes, but you can move them to an account and vote from there.
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Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: not without nefario knowing
copumpkin: it's usually assumed that my company is mine
copumpkin: you know
Diablo-D3: he can go on his fucking sql server and check right now
copumpkin: not something you can take away because you decide
Diablo-D3: I own 40 fucking shares.
mircea_popescu: One more step to access glbse.com
mircea_popescu: Why am I seeing this page?
mircea_popescu: Your IP address based on the country, region or network has been flagged by the website owner.
mircea_popescu: this is muy lol.
copumpkin: that's something for the law to do, if anything
assbot: [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 3 @ 0.13 = 0.39 BTC [+]
copumpkin: I'm not saying glbse is wrong
nefario: copumpkin: it's not your company if it belongs to your shareholders, then it's theirs
nefario: there is also no precedent to this on GLBSE
mircea_popescu: welll so then creating precedent on the cuff like this ?
Diablo-D3: and not _one_ shareholder came to me and asked me to step down
copumpkin: nefario: yes, that's possible, but the question is why _you_'re the one making the call
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 3 @ 0.979 = 2.937 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: many _non_ shareholders did
copumpkin: nefario: anyway, I'm just saying, make it more clear
Diablo-D3: like EskimoBob and p4man
nefario: copumpkin: have you not read the thread on the forum?
Diablo-D3: but the two largest shareholders have been more than happy with my performance
mircea_popescu: hm.
nefario: and I've had DMC shareholders on my back for weeks now to do something
nefario: not small ones
copumpkin: I shouldn't have to read the thread on the forum if I'm trying to use your site to raise capital :)
Diablo-D3: not only that, nefario has threatened the second largest shareholder as well
copumpkin: I'm saying make it clear on the site what we're signing up for :P
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nefario: Diablo-D3: who would that be?
Diablo-D3: usagi.
nefario: I've threatened him?
Diablo-D3: yes.
nefario: lol
nefario: you're so full of shit
mircea_popescu: wait. is usagi a shareholder by virtue of you GIVING him shares or by virtue of he BUYING them on the market ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: giving? no
nefario: when did he say I threatened him?
Diablo-D3: Ive never given shares to anyone
nefario: Have you not read what usagi wrote on the thread about you?
nefario: He's not your supporter
nefario: you have cost him a LOT of money
Diablo-D3: no, hes trying to protect his company from YOU
nefario: oh wow this is amazing
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of the good old days of litigating corp financings gone bad.
Diablo-D3: you've already threatened to steal DMC shares from nyan and cpa to prevent them from voting on your fake motion
nefario: HA
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00039466 = 6.1567 BTC [-]
nefario: usagi is a massive GLBSE supporter
Diablo-D3: he was.
nefario: still is
Diablo-D3: if you say so.
nefario: ask him yourself when he gets back
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6158 = 3.079 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.616 = 6.16 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: nope, Im not. he is scared shitless that you're going to do the same thing you tried to do to me
nefario: OMFG
nefario: how
Diablo-D3: most or all of nyan and bmf and cpa's assets are on glbse
mircea_popescu: well there is some disparity here.
nefario: how do you construct such an elaborate alternate reality?
Diablo-D3: you're just going to lock them up and claim the shareholders pressured you
nefario: you think I'm like some evil overlord?
nefario: I just run a website
Diablo-D3: I didnt before today!
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nefario: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/129/d/8/dr__nefario_by_soap_2-d3fxp39.jpg
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 33 @ 0.6198 = 20.4534 BTC [+]
nefario: apparently this is what I actually look like
OneMiner: Nice art. I likes.
nefario: And I've got winged monkies
Diablo-D3: so thats how you dodge accusations? you post nonsense urls?
nefario: what accusations?
Diablo-D3: its a little late to run for the republican nomination this year, bro.
nefario: of being a super villian?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10100 @ 0.00044248 = 4.469 BTC [+]
nefario: hang on while I pop down to the bank of evil to take out another loan
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13881 @ 0.00044307 = 6.1503 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: am I the only one here who was expecting a reasonable response?
nefario: I'm single-handedly holding the entire bitcoin community at randsom, ALL LIVE IN FEAR BEFORE ME!!!!
nefario: I eat babies
kakobrekla: lol
OneMiner: What I don't get is how everybody knows who is competent or not? Maybe it was ham fisted or maybe it was a super slick move.
kakobrekla: <3 dis chan.
mircea_popescu: well, the approach is problematic, but i don't see you could have continued in your position
nefario: If I do nothing, I'm accused of letting shareholders wealth be destroyed
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: who knows, pretty sure investors would have liked a few hundred btc extra dividends a month
Diablo-D3: but nefario pretty much fucked that up for everyone.
nefario: Diablo-D3: you can still pay dividends
Diablo-D3: nope, not happening.
nefario: it's up to you whether or not to
OneMiner: To hear diablo explain it the assets he sold were loosing value quickly. He also alludes to future contracts.
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OneMiner: Not that I know but it suggests to me that there was a plan at the least.
Diablo-D3: nefario: I will never send another dime to glbse.
mircea_popescu: the problem afaik was never assets sold, it was assets traded
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 was using a non-market value based system to trade
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: thats a different issue
nefario: Diablo-D3: good thing it's priced in BTC
Diablo-D3: I traded roughly 1 BTC of assets for 1 DMC
Diablo-D3: the asset market went pear shaped
OneMiner: mircea_popescu I remember that. Seemed like a way to generate hype.
OneMiner: Momentum gaining move.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00039453 = 1.3414 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: but notice, nefario didnt do one thing to punish fixed mhash bond issuers
nefario: OneMiner: DMC shareholders have for weeks been badgering me to do something about Diablo-D3, I've suspended him from control of DMC and will initiate an investigation and a vote
nefario: DMC shareholders are going to be given a say in whether they want to keep him as operator of DMC
Diablo-D3: DMC shareholders are going to sell their shares and get out why they can
Diablo-D3: and I dont blame them
nefario: DMC isn't frozen
nefario: have you seen a lot of trades of it recently
nefario: has there been an exodus?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 it went from 1 to 0.05. if they weathered that, why would they leave now ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: because now there isnt even 1600 BTC of assets
OneMiner: nefario right. May I ask what their complaints were? Could the vote have taken place without the suspension?
nefario: Not really
nefario: for complaints, see the thread
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Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the only thing we have left is dedi/cloud sales, and now nefario's bullshit is just going to cross infect that
OneMiner: Ok. Is there a deadline for voting yet?
nefario: it's not even been started
OneMiner: I see.
nefario: it's going to be mid next weel
nefario: week
nefario: There will be an investigation
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: might as well not even continue with the plan.
nefario: I'll get someone to go over the accounts
nefario: see if we can get a profit and loss
OneMiner: .05 !
Diablo-D3: that takes about 15 lines of perl, nefario
Diablo-D3: dont lie.
mircea_popescu: hum
nefario: And to allow time for a proper discussion
mircea_popescu: such a mess this entire thing.
nefario: Will also get a balance sheet worked out
nefario: Diablo-D3: the accounts need to be done by a third party
nefario: external auditor
Diablo-D3: no one trusts your data to begin with
nefario: You did until a few hours ago
Diablo-D3: until you attacked dmc and it's shareholders, yes
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.975 BTC [+]
agath: What makes me lol is that the name says Diablo MINING Company and now he's whining with DEDI/CLOUD.. :-D
nefario: I've just answered shareholders calls
agath: and probably he never built a datacenter.....
nefario: this is a large part of the problem
nefario: bait n switch
nefario: getting funding for one thing
Diablo-D3: agath: read the plan
nefario: then using it for something totally different
nefario: and in the meantime
Diablo-D3: agath: the data center stuff is fully featured in the plan
nefario: pissing it away it terrible trade
nefario: trades
agath: ... setting up a SMALL datacenter costs $450.000 or more (redundant power, cooling, firefighting, security/anti-theft, racks.....)
Diablo-D3: agath: an even smaller one costs less.
agath: I don't see how he could set it up with 1600 BTC
nefario: Solar power dude
nefario: it's like
nefario: the future
nefario: execept
Diablo-D3: no, we were raising a million dollars.
nefario: when it's like
nefario: not solar
nefario: like dark and stuff
nefario: night
nefario: yeah
Diablo-D3: I think nefario is on drugs.
nefario: but thats like
nefario: O
nefario: K
OneMiner: To be fair Diablo couldn't have made a DC with the funs he got from the IPO. He said he was going to make a DC and mine. He ended up mining. Seems truthful to me.
OneMiner: s/funs/funds
agath: I don't see million dollars .. after first sales your shares always went DOWN...
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29380 @ 0.00039443 = 11.5884 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: we didnt finish IPOing
Diablo-D3: not even close
agath: I bought 10 of them and I am crying now.
OneMiner: Ya, exactly. With the funds that you got the DC part of the plan was impossible.
OneMiner: At this time.
OneMiner: IMO...
nefario: Diablo-D3: of course , you hadn't sold infinity number of shares for ever smaller amounts
agath: He didn't even got hardware for mining, he only traded other's bonds...
nefario: so how could your IPO be considered over
nefario: it's only been trading for months
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yeah, and now nefario is saying I bait and switched even though I was going into dedi/cloud stuff so I can raise money faster and work on stuff top down
nefario: real IPOs take years I hear
agath: I'm wondering where are my 10 BTC I invested... :-|
Diablo-D3: agath: nefario has it
Diablo-D3: agath: dont ever expect to see it.
agath: Nefario doesn't own anything AFAIK..
nefario: depends on the value of the assets in DMC
nefario: ja
nefario: it belongs to DMC shareholders
Diablo-D3: yeah, what you claim the value is
nefario: I don't know the value
Diablo-D3: "oh hey guys, I sold everything for 16 BTC."
nefario: thats been your claim
Diablo-D3: while you pocket the rest
agath: I bought 10 @ 1, you sold 45K+ and you don't have 45000 BTC, you have 1600...
Diablo-D3: agath: 45k? hell no
nefario: Diablo-D3: it can all be verified by an external auditor
Diablo-D3: nefario: I dont care about your lies
Diablo-D3: I really really dont.
nefario: LIES!!!
agath: so even if nefario didn't freeze anything, you still don't have 1 BTC for every share sold.
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nefario: HEIL HITLER!
Diablo-D3: agath: yes, because the market depreciated the assets.
agath: "the market".
nefario: Diablo-D3: no you depreciated the assets
Diablo-D3: agath: notice he did nothing to the people who did this, only the largest victim of it
nefario: by issuing more and selling for less and less
nefario: largest victim?
nefario: you?
Diablo-D3: nefario: oh yes, its completely legitimate to keep saying assets are worth 0.30 BTC when the highest ask is 0.10
agath: ok I give up... do whatever you want, I feel I am wasting time discussing this .
Diablo-D3: _totally_ legit
nefario: you're the largest victim of...yourself?
Diablo-D3: fucking moron
nefario: or the market?
OneMiner: It makes sense to me that when the funding that was required for plan A can't be raised you move on to plan B. I remember Diablo-D3 talking about buying bonds too. I'm sure he has been upfront about it.
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Diablo-D3: OneMiner: nope, we're not allowed to make sense here
nefario: As Diablo-D3 has clearly demonstrated
agath: OneMiner: his company should have been a MINING COMPANY, not a FUND.
nefario: Diablo-D3: what would you have me do? If you were in my position what would you do?
agath: if I wanted to invest on other GLBSE companies I would have bought 10 NYAN not 10 DMC.
Diablo-D3: agath: nyan didnt exist yet, moron
Diablo-D3: there were no funds yet.
agath: ok, then 10 MOVETO.FUND
agath: or 10 MU .
agath: there are PLENTY.
Diablo-D3: sure, "plenty"
mircea_popescu: there were som
agath: it was just an example, and I didn't insult you (YET).
mircea_popescu: but i think some went bankrupt
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, some went bankrupt
Diablo-D3: and some were already being called scams
OneMiner: agath I believe he stated in the past that he was holding bonds to try to gain some value untill ASICs dropped.
Diablo-D3: but there were no funds that I could invest in yet
agath: I don't care if they went bankrupt: I didn't invest in a FUND because I didn't want to.
nefario: Diablo-D3: what would you have done if you were in my position?
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yup, but no sense making, nefario wont have it
agath: OneMiner: when I bought DMC, ASICs weren't in the air yet
Diablo-D3: nefario: oh, I'd do the same, but I would have stolen the btc not the assets
mircea_popescu: nefario if he were in your position he'd have traded bonds for higher mh/s value
dub: Diablo-D3: in all honesty, while you should probably be making a show of dissaproval, this is the best possible outcome for you
Diablo-D3: agath: not entirely true
Diablo-D3: agath: bfl had not announced sc yet
dub: Diablo-D3: the only other way out of this fuckup you created was a scammer tag
mircea_popescu: dub may well have it.
Diablo-D3: dub: this is not the best possible outcome.
mircea_popescu: well, he didn't say the best theoretically possible outcome
dub: Diablo-D3: rejoice in the redemption nefario has bestowed upon you
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 179 @ 0.00340764 = 0.61 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: although if DMC dies, I can at least work on plan B without nefario being able to touch that
Diablo-D3: so maybe theres a silver lining
dub: Diablo-D3: exactly
agath: anyway, it would have been far better to NOT DO ANYTHING and keep your funds for a better time, instead of swapping that much and lose all the value.
OneMiner: agath they always were. It's a forgone conclusion. If bitcoin succeeds then there will be ASICs. The only way there won't be is if bitcoin flops, in that case we are all out our investments.
dub: Diablo-D3: and now people have a much better understanding of your capabitlities to asses their investment
agath: Diablo-D3: good luck with your plan B
Diablo-D3: agath: thats 20:20 hindsight there, bro
mircea_popescu: actually as a point of policy, it seems to me that if company ipos for plan A and it fails to raise the funds, it just pays everony back and dissolves.
dub: heh capabitlities
Diablo-D3: how was I supposed to know fixed mhash bond issuers would sell fake bonds into the bid wall on th news bfl was doing asics
mircea_popescu: this working on the observation that if i invite a girl over for a suck & fuck and instead a fat dood shows up for a stamp collection showdown i JUST KICK HIM OUT
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: except I never quit with plan A
dub: UD: capabitlities; n, the abject inability of bitcoin service operators to avoid fucking up
Diablo-D3: I made decisions to make sure plan A can happen with less money from investors.
agath: OneMiner: ok, but what's the point? I am sure that tomorrow there will be 45nm ASIC, the next semester 28nm ASICS, the next decade QUANTUM chips... so I never buy hardware because if bitcoin succeeds there will be QUANTUM chips. Or whatever else comes after.
OneMiner: agath that's silly.
Diablo-D3: agath: I notice you too ignored what I said.
Diablo-D3: fixed mhash bond issuers sold bonds that had _no hardware to back them_
Diablo-D3: because they knew they could pocket hundreds of btc and buy asic later on
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00039416 = 1.5766 BTC [-]
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Diablo-D3: difficulty was skyrocketing high enough that they could hide it for years and no one would know
dub: how is that relevant?
Diablo-D3: dub: BECAUSE DMC WAS HOLDING THE FUCKING BONDS
dub: if they pay dividends it doesnt really matter if thye have hardware or not
agath: I understood that. But it's not the point. You wanted to do a mining company, then why didn't you buy hardware for doing it instead of bonds? If you bought by that time, FPGAs would already have paid for theirselves..
Diablo-D3: thank God I dumped as many as possible before we lost all the assets
mircea_popescu: dub o no. that's ponzi.
agath: and you would have money to invest into ASICs at the end of the year.
Diablo-D3: I could have done nothing and let _all_ the asset value evaporate
Diablo-D3: instead I doubled our mhash and only lost about a third
OneMiner: Damn, I'm going to bounce. I'd love to stay and talk.... Good luck to everybody. I hope this can be less of a train wreak than it sounds.
dub: mircea_popescu: sure but who is to know?
mircea_popescu: OneMiner it will be more, trust me.
dub: only a few issuers have even posted pic of their shit
mircea_popescu: nothing except btc is ever less than it sounds in btc land
dub: and that cannot be trusted
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assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 95 @ 0.001 = 0.095 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: hah
Diablo-D3: someome bought fail
Diablo-D3: I should warn in the thread
Diablo-D3: DI will not pay out
Diablo-D3: nefario froze assets and there is no payout.
dub: see your problem is that diff and btc/usd went up
kakobrekla: hm Diablo-D3?
Diablo-D3: dub: that didnt improve things, no
kakobrekla: are we going to see another staff -> scam ?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: nefario has stolen all assets that belong to dmc
dub: if you had actually executed your plan that would have been good for you
rg: diff is *still* going up
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: that includes di
agath: OneMiner: what does it mean "going to bounce"? English is not my language. Bounce on the bed? Bounce on your GF? Anything else?
dub: as in, built some fucking mining capacity
Diablo-D3: agath: he went to bed
agath: got it, ty :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.10165 = 1.1182 BTC [-]
rg: nefario 'stole' them/
rg: ?
Diablo-D3: rg: yup.
Diablo-D3: they are no longer in dmc's possession
nefario: rg: Diablo-D3 has been suspended as the admin of DMC for gross incompetence on continual request of DMC shareholders
rg: why
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00039523 = 4.3871 BTC [+]
rg: oh
Diablo-D3: rg: he wants the 1600 BTC in assets.
rg: so whos the admin in charge
agath: rg if you read the thread, nefario could stop answering the same questions over and over :)
rg: surely a neutral party?
nefario: until after a shareholder vote on whether to keep DMC as admin (in about 1 weeks time)
rg: why that long
kakobrekla: nefario how about DI insurance
dub: jesus
mircea_popescu: <rg> why
mircea_popescu: <rg> oh <<< lmao
nefario: remind me about DI insurance
kakobrekla: not that i have a bet in it, just curious
kakobrekla: umm
kakobrekla: diablo runs that?
kakobrekla: how is it affected
Diablo-D3: rg: so, what I want to see, is how nefario is going to steal the dedi/cloud shit
rg: what i want to see
rg: is when diablo gets voed back to admin
rg: and is like oh
dub: yeah
rg: maybe he wasnt stealing it
dub: and the train continues plowing through a schoolbus full of children
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
dub: cause its hilarious
nefario: DI insurance is frozen as well I guess
mircea_popescu: you know, at this point is worth buying dmc just to vote him back in
dub: lol
dub: i'll sell you my share
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: nefario will probably lock dmc sales then
nefario: no
nefario: open market until then
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 two top investors were on your side anyway eright ?
nefario: and after
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yup, but nefario has already said hes going to take their shares
nefario: mircea_popescu: if you want to burn money for your own entertainment
dub: pretty sure usagi owned most of it
Diablo-D3: because they're "illegitimate"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16443 @ 0.00039523 = 6.4988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14051 @ 0.0003956 = 5.5586 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nefario what else is money for.
dub: and usagi was the complainant?
Diablo-D3: if nefario burned every single share that was traded for, there'd be about 50 fucking shares left.
mircea_popescu: mmm, take their shares ? so how many shares will there be left ?
dub: usagi often bitched at Diablo-D3 in here
Diablo-D3: so good luck with that.
Diablo-D3: dub: yes, and I bitched at usagi
dub: iirc usage was new when it bought in to DMC
dub: not sure whether thats when you were in build fpga farm mode or run mining fund mode
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: who knows
Diablo-D3: theres about 15k shares out there that got traded in due to asicminer
dub: well
dub: lets be clear
dub: they were traded for asicminer because you revalued DMC at .05btc oslt
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: if he attacks the two people who did the largest trading, then theres pretty much nobody left
Diablo-D3: dub: nope, I revalued asicminer at 10btc or more
copumpkin: smickles: does it mean anything to you if I say "divs on CFF under GAAP?"
dub: Diablo-D3: same thing
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 40 @ 0.132 = 5.28 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: you know whats going to be hilarious?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9919 @ 0.00044081 = 4.3724 BTC [-]
nefario: Diablo-D3: WTF are you talking about, attack the largest trading?
Diablo-D3: er, traders
nefario: still
Diablo-D3: no, trading
Diablo-D3: maybe trades would be better
nefario: WTF are you talking about
nefario: string a decent sentence together you chickenhead
Diablo-D3: nefario: two people are about 15k shares together.
dub: nefario: you stole his windmills man
Diablo-D3: so who the fuck are these shareholders you keep saying told you to do this
nefario: two people?
nefario: what two people?
Diablo-D3: go fuck yourself, nefario
nefario: Learn to speak
nefario: make sense
Diablo-D3: you already know usagi is one of them.
nefario: instead of jabbering on about my scheme to be master of the universe
Diablo-D3: you can find out who the other is.
nefario: USAGI IS NOT ON YOUR SIDE
Diablo-D3: usagi sure as hell isnt on yours!
dub: nefario: suggest to stfu at this point
Diablo-D3: and usagi already knows Im pissed at him
Diablo-D3: he needs to grow a set of fucking balls
nefario: why should he care what you think?
dub: nefario: discussing names here is inappropriate
[\\\]: hello friends
Diablo-D3: shuddup imsaguy
dub: hi2u imsaguy
Obsi: ;;seen pirateat40
gribble: I have not seen pirateat40.
Obsi: :-D
nefario: ah it's you imsaguy
mircea_popescu: everywhere you look, fags and jews
[\\\]: Diablo-D3, I hear your friend nefario gave you an awesome birthday present
nefario: lol
agath: but ASICMINER is not VALUED 10, and probably will never be!!!
[\\\]: glwt copumpkin copumpkin :P
nefario: [\\\]: in a nice box too
copumpkin: inb4 ghost
nefario: ribbon on top
[\\\]: lulz
[\\\]: @copumpkin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33583 @ 0.00039415 = 13.2367 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24317 @ 0.00039414 = 9.5843 BTC [-]
[\\\]: I ain't getting in the middle of the tizzy of nef/d3
nefario: I'm pretty much done
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: nothing to get in the middle of
midnightmagic: I will! Group hug!
nefario: had my fun after work
Diablo-D3: nefario won
[\\\]: Diablo-D3: moving to the other?
dub: Diablo-D3: you need to go full crazy at this point start crapping in your hands and rubbing it on your junk
nefario: probably have to get some more work done
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: cant, nefario refuses to release a list of shareholders.
dub: Diablo-D3: show those shareholders that they REALLY dont want you in charge
[\\\]: oh, right
dub: Diablo-D3: and redeem the GTFO jail free card nefario has haned you
dub: handed*
[\\\]: I wanna be CEO
[\\\]: its fun times.
Diablo-D3: if this is what being CEO is like, I never want to be one again.
dub: usagi will step up and run DMC
Diablo-D3: dub: he wont
nefario: Diablo-D3: why not?
Diablo-D3: I already asked him repeatedly to take over asset management so I can do dmc full time
Diablo-D3: he already said no
dub: Diablo-D3: thats the best outcome for you
Obsi: he already wanted to launch UMC not much different to run DMC
Diablo-D3: I liked his management style, but fuck him
[\\\]: asset management?
dub: usagi gets to be the scammer, not you
[\\\]: I nominate smickles
[\\\]: we'll throw it under S2cm
nefario: s2cm?
dub: uh
[\\\]: investment thingymajiggy
dub: smickles appears to have at least half a brain
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: nefario refuses to return the assets to DMC
dub: so he's not going to want this
[\\\]: smickles is good, we play nice
mircea_popescu: actually smickles might work
Diablo-D3: I doubt smickles wants to
[\\\]: dub, it can't be that bad
dub: if smickles puts his hand up to run DMC hes an idiot
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Did the vote fail?
copumpkin: smickles is awesome
Diablo-D3: nefario is attacking anyone associated with dmc
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: nefario will never issue the motion
mircea_popescu: dub why ? proper inventory and all
nefario: IM A WILD DOG GRRRRR
kakobrekla: DOG!
nefario: IMA GONNA CUT YOU BITCH!
dub: mircea_popescu: dmc is not worth anything
midnightmagic: Huh? He said he would? I'm behind aren't I..
[\\\]: woah
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: he SAID he would... next week
Diablo-D3: next week is a pretty long ways away.
nefario: Diablo-D3: what will you say when I issue the motion? Eat your words? Your hat?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 35 @ 0.10165 = 3.5578 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 39 @ 0.1017 = 3.9663 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: How many shares would I need to buy up a majority vote?
Diablo-D3: no, I will just continue asking myself how far are you going to drag this farce along
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: 10k.
midnightmagic: Whats that 100BTC?
Diablo-D3: 1000
midnightmagic: Oh, it's 0.1 right now?
dub: https://glbse.com/api/quantity_trading/DMC
midnightmagic: tnx
agath: I sell my 10 DMC shares for 0.99 !!! Plenty of fun granted! :-)
Diablo-D3: !ticker dmc
assbot: [GLBSE:DMC] [Bid: 0.049] [Ask: 0.05999999] [Spread: 0.01099999] [Last: 0.05999999] [24hVol: 1.31999978] [7dAvg: 0.06454165]
Diablo-D3: okay fine, 500
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 20 @ 0.15 = 3 BTC [+]
copumpkin: kakobrekla: you mean dog on the forum?
dub: he means dogging in a carpark
midnightmagic: Is there a cmd like ;;market buy?
[\\\]: yeah
[\\\]: is gribble here?
[\\\]: it is
[\\\]: just do it
midnightmagic: For glbse?
dub: not for glbse afaik
[\\\]: oh
[\\\]: no
[\\\]: because no one wrote it
dub: as kakobrekla
[\\\]: because the api doesn't exist
dub: ask*
midnightmagic: Yeah for majority vote lol
kakobrekla: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values)
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>] (desc: profit loss calc for GLBSE assets)
kakobrekla: thats what you get.
[\\\]: how many shares of dmc are outstanding
Diablo-D3: 20909
midnightmagic: 20k are "trading"
dub: 998000
[\\\]: do I dare ask what the last price is?
dub: (lol)
kakobrekla: !ticker dmc
assbot: [GLBSE:DMC] [Bid: 0.049] [Ask: 0.05999999] [Spread: 0.01099999] [Last: 0.05999999] [24hVol: 1.31999978] [7dAvg: 0.06454165]
Diablo-D3: 0.06
midnightmagic: lowest ask is 0.05 i think..
[\\\]: ;;calc 20909
gribble: 20909
kakobrekla: hey, it was worse before.
[\\\]: ;;calc 20909*.05
gribble: 1045.45
[\\\]: so 1k buys the company?
[\\\]: shit
[\\\]: drop in the bucket
Diablo-D3: and we have 1600 in assets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28883 @ 0.00039414 = 11.3839 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: thats how useless glbse is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9998 @ 0.00039404 = 3.9396 BTC [-]
[\\\]: what are revenues?
nefario: lol, this news of suspending Diablo-D3 has done nothing to the share price
[\\\]: I'm not implying it would
[\\\]: just gathering info
[\\\]: maybe I wanna buy some
nefario: lol
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: 80*2 over the first three months
Diablo-D3: 80 was paid as dividends
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 71 @ 0.00340764 = 0.2419 BTC [-]
[\\\]: what month is it now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 548 @ 0.0033989 = 1.8626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.00338234 = 0.0676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 2000 @ 0.00337901 = 6.758 BTC [-]
[\\\]: 6?
Diablo-D3: 5.
[\\\]: I know its september before someone gets all smartass
[\\\]: what was div this last month?
reeses: barely September
reeses: :-)
Diablo-D3: the fourth did not pay dividends as per motion voted by half the issued shares, 10:1 vote
[\\\]: wake me up when it ends
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: How many shares do you own?
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: 40.
[\\\]: Diablo-D3, how many shares do you control?
Diablo-D3: its all I could afford to buy
[\\\]: ;;calc 80/21000
gribble: 0.00380952380952
midnightmagic: lol
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: except thats not accurate
[\\\]: ;;calc 0.00380952380952/.05
gribble: 0.0761904761904
[\\\]: wht's that?
[\\\]: why*
Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.0
Diablo-D3: just check the financial reports
[\\\]: thanks
[\\\]: I should have asked for that sooner
mircea_popescu: dub i would guess it still holds ~1k in assets.
[\\\]: So whats the gameplan for asic? obviously diff is skyrocketing and reward is halving
[\\\]: income's gotta be bottoming out
dub: mircea_popescu: 1k of mining bonds..
dub: [\\\]: thankfully price has been up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00039418 = 1.7344 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: the price is ready for 25/block
Diablo-D3: [\\\]: this is why I traded so heavily for asicminer
Diablo-D3: but apparently Im this big evil bad wall street CEO for trying to get the only money thats going to be made for awhile
mircea_popescu: you invested in s.dice ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44302 @ 0.00039404 = 17.4568 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1798 @ 0.00039403 = 0.7085 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: man, I must buy 40 gallon drums of lube on amazon because I fuck investors so much
nefario: Most of the accusations against you have been for incompetence, you'd never be allowed to work anywhere on wall street
nefario: And from your people skills, I guess McDonalds is also out of the question
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 89 @ 0.0045 = 0.4005 BTC [+]
copumpkin: http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: ...
mircea_popescu: hell, with lubricant like that who needs a girl.
copumpkin: bathe in it
copumpkin: and you'll be able to fit everything
midnightmagic: nefario: Sorry, is there a post somewhere that details the specifics? I guess I missed it.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: he keeps claiming my investors revolted
Diablo-D3: I mean, they're pretty revolting, but why remind them of that in public
nefario: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1182044#msg1182044
midnightmagic: But it's in private?
Diablo-D3: nope, right on the dmc thread.
Diablo-D3: so all I can do is hope my investors arent sheep and do the right thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00039418 = 11.5101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0003956 = 4.312 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Huh. That's strange. There's no way to get ownership certs issued or have a secret vote or something?
nefario: Usagi, have I been attacking you?
midnightmagic: usagi: A really good reason to start using Open Transactions for asset issuance. :)
nefario: threatening you?
nefario: trying to coerce you?
nefario: hmm
nefario: I am a dog I guess
nefario: lol
nefario: you've been gone what 5 minutes?
kakobrekla: bitcoin time really goes fast.
nefario: Diablo-D3: what say you?
kakobrekla: like being on LSD 24/7
nefario: Am I evil who controls all in my dominion with terror?
nefario: He also said how many he has in his personal account
nefario: and it was wrong
nefario: not by a huge amount though
midnightmagic: nefario: Isn't.. that personal information?
nefario: Depends
nefario: Diablo is an issuer
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.01889 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 2 @ 0.0189 = 0.0378 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.742 BTC [-]
nefario: and that
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7401 = 3.7005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.74 = 3.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.738 = 1.476 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.733 = 6.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.7325 = 2.93 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.73220001 = 2.1966 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 50 @ 0.7322 = 36.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00039427 = 6.3872 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 6 @ 0.952 = 5.712 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 8 @ 0.951 = 7.608 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012682 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 40 BTC-MINING * 0.928 = 37.12
mircea_popescu: 951 BTCMC * 0.570045 = 542.112795
mircea_popescu: 5113 OBSI.ABMO * 0.05 = 255.65
mircea_popescu: 2080 ASICMINER * 0.1 = 208
mircea_popescu: 1042.882795 BTC Value of whole asset
mircea_popescu: = 0.04987722 BTC per share
mircea_popescu: ok so that 1k btc pretty much accurate Diablo-D3 ?
midnightmagic: usagi: There's a cryptographic bit of software called open transactions which allows issuers to issue bits and pieces with cryptographic ownership attached, and there's all kinds of neat things one can do with them.
nefario: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1018 = 0.6108 BTC [+]
nefario: so
nefario: so much drama
midnightmagic: usagi: The guy writing it is FellowTraveler and he's in #opentransactions
nefario: what size are business cards?
nefario: w*h in mm?
midnightmagic: nefario: Well, participating in it doesn't help much. You're the one with the power to lock and unlock accounts. :)
midnightmagic: usagi: No it would solve ownership questions and would enable a bitcoin-backed cashlike currency which skips the blockchain.
nefario: midnightmagic: I'm a fan of OpenTransactions, tried to use it at the begining of GLBSE
midnightmagic: nefario: Yeah I'm a fan too. FellowTraveler is really really verbose and happy to answer questions.. that's pretty rare.
nefario: midnightmagic: the guy could talk the hind legs off a donkey
mircea_popescu: i'm a sponsor of ot. it's a good ideea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00039427 = 5.4015 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i think they're still working on getting it ready for production, from what i talked to them
nefario: It wasn't ready for production
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.979 BTC [+]
nefario: this was over a year and 1/2 ago
nefario: the problems OT is trying to solve are not the ones that need solving
mircea_popescu: this may be the case yea
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 23 @ 0.09989999 = 2.2977 BTC [-]
nefario: usagi: not prevented
nefario: reduced risk
nefario: it's all about risk, more or less of it
nefario: having everything anonymous makes risk massive
nefario: sure
midnightmagic: lol, stocks are centrally-issued certs.
nefario: still though
nefario: doesn't prevent it
nefario: Madoff
nefario: ja
nefario: but still did it
nefario: as I said
nefario: it reduces risk
nefario: I agree
nefario: a lot of what we see in bitcoin land is mob rule
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11038 @ 0.00039403 = 4.3493 BTC [-]
nefario: look at bitcoinica as an example
nefario: Anyway
nefario: running GLBSE I can see that having no regulation doesn't work
nefario: sure
nefario: not exactly SEC
nefario: just rules for the market
nefario: if there is a very large market
nefario: and it has rules
nefario: that works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00039416 = 11.1547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00039559 = 2.2944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.0003956 = 9.6922 BTC [+]
nefario: Too many markets with rules means too many rules
nefario: should have 2-3 very large markets
nefario: and either they will have totally separate rules, i.e. they are speciality markets
nefario: or they've all got the same or similar rules
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 30819 @ 0.00044307 = 13.655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5266 @ 0.00044441 = 2.3403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33127 @ 0.00039403 = 13.053 BTC [-]
nefario: so
nefario: who wants to see my business card design?
Diablo-D3: [08:38:03] <mircea_popescu> ok so that 1k btc pretty much accurate Diablo-D3 ?
Diablo-D3: no
nefario: Oh HEY Diablo-D3
mircea_popescu: well what's missing ? or ?
nefario: you're back
dub: its a lot less than that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: Ive issued that already
nefario: and usagi is here too
nefario: Diablo-D3: have a read on what usagi said, about me not threatening him, except for the sandwitch part
mircea_popescu: dub it is ?!
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1182260#msg1182260
Diablo-D3: [08:34:17] <usagi> You said you didn't have a personal account then you mentioned you had a personal account
Diablo-D3: I said I dont have a personal portfolio
Diablo-D3: I _only_ hold DMC
Diablo-D3: I have 40 shares of it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11862 @ 0.0003956 = 4.6926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3351 @ 0.00039601 = 1.327 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: no, I also said I dont have other accounts
Diablo-D3: I only have one
nefario: later usagi
mircea_popescu: 54 BTC-MINING, currently valued 53.78 BTC
mircea_popescu: 951 BTCMC, currently valued 561.08 BTC
mircea_popescu: 9290 OBSI.ABMO, currently valued 929.00 BTC
nefario: USAGI!
mircea_popescu: o i see, so recent swaps ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yes
nefario: bye
nefario: tee hee hee
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: abmo had a deal open to swap 1 asicminer for two abmo
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1018 = 0.4072 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aha
Bugpowder: ;;ticker OBSI.ABMO
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations).
Diablo-D3: its 0.1 ask, Bugpowder
Diablo-D3: and you want !ticker
Bugpowder: tx
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 36085 @ 0.00044164 = 15.9366 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: !ticker OBSI.ABMO
assbot: [GLBSE:OBSI.ABMO] [Bid: 0.01000001] [Ask: 0.1] [Spread: 0.08999999] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: 30.3] [7dAvg: 0.09616666]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9115 @ 0.00044164 = 4.0255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12252 @ 0.00044081 = 5.4008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 23682 @ 0.00043813 = 10.3758 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 28500 @ 0.00043685 = 12.4502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 29600 @ 0.00043606 = 12.9074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 18675 @ 0.00043115 = 8.0517 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 26200 @ 0.00043067 = 11.2836 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 23578 @ 0.00042423 = 10.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 25400 @ 0.00042197 = 10.718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00041402 = 0.6624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1398 @ 0.00041401 = 0.5788 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: also, not that it matters, I own half of abmo
Diablo-D3: well, owned.
Diablo-D3: now nefario does
nefario: DMC shareholders
nefario: the foil in your hat is too thick
nefario: preventing needed ventelation
Diablo-D3: yes, you're going to "liquidate" it and they get 50 btc.
Diablo-D3: ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN^WSHAREHOLDERS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11249 @ 0.00039601 = 4.4547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5651 @ 0.00039661 = 2.2412 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 40 @ 0.031 = 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 41515 @ 0.00044437 = 18.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24502 @ 0.00041401 = 10.1441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 23800 @ 0.00040185 = 9.564 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 183 @ 0.00039894 = 0.073 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker gigamining
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.59] [Ask: 0.6197] [Spread: 0.0297] [Last: 0.6197] [24hVol: 192.69492597] [7dAvg: 0.66033478]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
Bane_Capital: This is how a ponzi collapses
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: so we're all agreeing that glbse is a ponzi now?
Diablo-D3: wow, I just scrolled up
Diablo-D3: usagi is claiming obsi is a scammer
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134654389322.png
Bane_Capital: I am talking about Obsi
Bane_Capital: Anyways, Nefario has shareholders to report to
Bane_Capital: GLBSE isn't going anywhere.
Diablo-D3: so how is obsi a ponzi?
Diablo-D3: what graph?
Diablo-D3: which issue?
Diablo-D3: obsi has at least three different things
Diablo-D3: oh
Diablo-D3: no one gives a shit about hrpt
Diablo-D3: I thought you meant his real issues
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9400 @ 0.00039933 = 3.7537 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 3 @ 0.25 = 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.15 = 0.75 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: good evening
kakobrekla: hi
Diablo-D3: [10:38:41] <usagi> Boy am I glad I started selling out my OBSI earlier before the crash
Diablo-D3: [10:38:53] <usagi> No way I'm getting stuck in another ponzi but now I'm trapped
Diablo-D3: [10:38:58] <usagi> I have like, several thousand shares to sell
Diablo-D3: [10:39:03] <usagi> and it's under .1
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 8 @ 0.11663206 = 0.9331 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: you used the word ponzi and said obsi is the ponzier.
Diablo-D3: ponziist?
Diablo-D3: ponzniteer.
Bane_Capital: Obsi screams poor investment
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: YEAH, HOW CAN WE COMPETE WITH PIRATE'S 7%... oh wait
mircea_popescu: i thought she was a girl.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: usagi is a guy.
mircea_popescu: usagi is a twink, but i was talking about obsi
Diablo-D3: obsis a girl now?!
Diablo-D3: wtf
chmod755: I'll change my name to Charles Ponzi for 10k BTC
mircea_popescu: ill give you 7.55 chmod 755
Diablo-D3: I'll give you .0755
mircea_popescu: patable in wright debt.
mircea_popescu: payable*
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: OBJECTION!
mircea_popescu: overruled.
Diablo-D3: what? thats not how that works
mircea_popescu: :D
chmod755: looking to trade wright debt for pirate debt
chmod755: lol
kakobrekla: chmod755, you really need that magazines eh
kakobrekla: :)
kakobrekla: ah
kakobrekla: dont need
Diablo-D3: I dont care what you do with your personal life
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09599997 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: but you're not a girl
Diablo-D3: Im not going to fucking dox people
mircea_popescu: ahahah there should be a flea market
Diablo-D3: what is this, #anonymouscentral?
mircea_popescu: trading pirate debt for hashking debty etc
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: fuck, we've turned into wall street
Diablo-D3: I dont care if you and nefario are having a gay man on man homo sex relationship, its none of my business.
Diablo-D3: but dont go around claiming you're a girl on the internet
Diablo-D3: because, frankly, no one gives a fuck
Bane_Capital: He's trying to be funny
mircea_popescu: i give fucks.
Bane_Capital: but he just seems
Bane_Capital: Weird
Diablo-D3: if you're that starved for attention, just hire a prostitute
Bane_Capital: Bruce Wagner? lol
Diablo-D3: dear lord, usagi's brain is made by IBM
Bane_Capital: I have no idea.
Diablo-D3: dear lord, a loli vampire who's brain is made by IBM
jcpham: i am a crazy libyan
Diablo-D3: jcpham: heavy.
jcpham: dude i'll burn your consolate down
mircea_popescu: you can't even spell consulate
Bane_Capital: Whoever translated that Muhammad blasphemy video achieved the highest level of trolling possible.
jcpham: exactly
Diablo-D3: yeah, I think its pretty much time to nuke libya
Bane_Capital: I am pretty sure it was a Mossad agent.
Bane_Capital: Who wants US military welfare for Israel.
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: yes, a mossad agent killed a rather well known video game player
Diablo-D3: I say we nuke israel
Bane_Capital: Diablo-D3: You're going to get the JIDF in here.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: koran
mircea_popescu: anyone want to see me burn the coran to fry meat opn the flame ?
mircea_popescu: w/e
jcpham: that's amazing mircea_popescu
jcpham: can you link me to it
mircea_popescu: mkay, lemme dig for it
jcpham: ty
Diablo-D3: so, I think what Im going to do
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/barbecuran/
Diablo-D3: is start a religion
mircea_popescu: there
jcpham: if i re-upload it to youtube will you get mad
jcpham: i'll keep it private and only share with my friends
mircea_popescu: put a link to source i dun care.
mircea_popescu: you can make it public.
jcpham: ok
jcpham: will do
mircea_popescu: heck, april 2011 its been a year and a half.
mircea_popescu: i think this is absolutely clear proof that it's not the video that did it.
PsychoticBoy: !ticker FDBF
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.14] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.01] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 9.75] [7dAvg: 0.14998275]
PsychoticBoy: !ticker ABM
assbot: [GLBSE:ABM] [Bid: 0.0001] [Ask: 0.2] [Spread: 0.1999] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.1]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.08201001 = 0.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.08201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.082 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.082 = 1.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.081 = 8.019 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.0809 = 8.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 220 @ 0.0809 = 17.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.08080808 = 0.8889 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 43 @ 0.08 = 3.44 BTC [-]
Bane_Capital: lol
Bane_Capital: I wish sleep wasn't needed
Bane_Capital: Look what you did Diablo-D3
Bane_Capital: That was the JIDF
Bane_Capital: checking on this place
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.08 = 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.079 = 1.106 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so im guessing, "great that i didn't buy obsi" ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.078 = 3.9 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: was sorta half thinking about throwing a hundred or two that way
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0771 = 0.3855 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.077 = 7.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24501 @ 0.00039824 = 9.7573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26523 @ 0.00039841 = 10.567 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [-]
Bane_Capital: It might just be FUD
Bane_Capital: OBSI might have a chance
Bane_Capital: hence why people are still buying it
dust-otc: it is FUD
dust-otc: you should be fearful, uncertain and doutful though when you read the terms of OBSI.HRPT
dust-otc: EskimoBob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91646.msg1184140#msg1184140 why fold when there is more profit ahead?
jcpham: http://youtu.be/B2w6ffT8iXM
mircea_popescu: look ma! i'm famous on the interwebs nao
jcpham: i don't know what he's saying!
jcpham: but i want to do it!
jcpham: now i won't waste up your bandwidth
jcpham: as i watch this over and over
kakobrekla: so i click on the link
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: i have more bandwidth than god, but i appreciate the intent.
kakobrekla: and jewtube says the vid is not public and only those with the URL can see it
jcpham: i have some hardcore republican friends who will just eat it up
mircea_popescu: ya a girl just said the same thing to me jcpham
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.0942 = 0.471 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: as kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: and ofcourse, "How to cook Bacon by the Quran (Barbequran)" seems a better title :D
copumpkin: lol
jcpham: i put a little thought in it
jcpham: i just wonder how long until i get death threats
kakobrekla: can we get the bandwidth waster fixed
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [+]
jcpham: it's public now
mircea_popescu: death threats ?
mircea_popescu: fuck you jcpham. i kill you!
jcpham: yes!
jcpham: i did
jcpham: i wish i would have thought of it first
jcpham: i give credit where credit is due
mircea_popescu: huh ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09539999 = 0.954 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.10060003 = 3.9234 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.10050003 = 3.417 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.10050002 = 1.005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.10050001 = 1.5075 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1005 = 0.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0942 = 0.1884 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1005 = 0.804 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.10030006 = 5.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.10020006 = 3.4068 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.10020005 = 0.8016 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5889 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.08100001 = 0.972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6500 @ 0.00040513 = 2.6333 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4222 @ 0.0003953 = 1.669 BTC [-]
Bane_Capital: You look like one of Matthew's girlfriends.
Bane_Capital: Smoovious, I've heard things from the man you wouldn't believe.
kakobrekla: Bane_Capital, test us.
Bane_Capital: Let's see...
Bane_Capital: Oh
Bane_Capital: Yeah, he got fondled and sexually abused in a locker room as a child.
Bane_Capital: He brags about it
Bane_Capital: I was freaked out to say the least
mircea_popescu: who's this ?
Bane_Capital: Matthew N. Wright
Bane_Capital: lol I don't know
kakobrekla: well ok that preety heavy.
kakobrekla: but, belivable.
kakobrekla: :)
Bane_Capital: He calls his girlfriends his projects that need a lot of fixing
Bane_Capital: When they don't make the cut or progress
Bane_Capital: he dumps them
Bane_Capital: Very controlling
Bane_Capital: Smoovious: He's white and in Korea. Women line up.
Bane_Capital: Unfortunately.
Bane_Capital: Well he did show me the collection of red light tickets he pays off every year
Bane_Capital: He just runs lights
Bane_Capital: then pays the fines like no big deal
Bane_Capital: lol
Bane_Capital: Check your privilege.
Bane_Capital: http://i.imgur.com/OfmjE.png It could be worse.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 2 @ 0.91 = 1.82 BTC [-]
Bane_Capital: It's a mixture of different info
kakobrekla: ill do escrow
jcpham: what r ya'll doing
Bane_Capital: Finding girls on the internet because they haven't left the house in months.
kakobrekla: fuck me*?
kakobrekla: FUCK YOU.
kakobrekla: :p
kakobrekla: in mah wallet
Bane_Capital: I would reveal hints but I don't want to spoil the fun.
Bane_Capital: She gives them blatantly in several places.
kakobrekla: obviously you are not serious.
Bane_Capital: Who? I certainly am.
kakobrekla: not you
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: no i just want to see the end of this
Bane_Capital: usagi: Life would be too boring otherwise.
Bane_Capital: Sitting down silent is dull.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 3 @ 0.77 = 2.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 20 @ 0.8 = 16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 7 @ 0.8 = 5.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09499998 = 0.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.101 = 0.606 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.10020005 = 2.6052 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.10020004 = 3.4068 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.10020003 = 3.4068 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 168 @ 0.10010001 = 16.8168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12533 @ 0.00039841 = 4.9933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12867 @ 0.00039957 = 5.1413 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: When they don't make the cut or progress he dumps them << i do the exact same thing.
MoneyIsDebt: creepy
mircea_popescu: jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXmYv_Tc34A << her life before islam was sporadic.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.09999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09499998 = 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.09499999 = 1.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.09499999 = 1.235 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.095 = 1.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.09529999 = 2.2872 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.0953 = 0.5718 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 70 @ 0.09539999 = 6.678 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.0954 = 2.0034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 28 @ 0.0954 = 2.6712 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.09699999 = 1.649 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.097 = 0.291 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0997 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0999 = 9.8901 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 19 @ 0.09999945 = 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 75 @ 0.0999997 = 7.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 450 @ 0.0999998 = 44.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.09999999 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 91 @ 0.1 = 9.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 85 @ 0.1 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 60 @ 0.1 = 6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 133 @ 0.098 = 13.034 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 35 @ 0.09 = 3.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.09 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08150001 = 0.326 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0815 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.08001 = 8.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 23 @ 0.08 = 1.84 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: man whats with the hrpt fight
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.08150002 = 1.7115 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 179 @ 0.08 = 14.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 471 @ 0.1 = 47.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker obsi.hrpt
assbot: [GLBSE:OBSI.HRPT] [Bid: 0.08100001] [Ask: 0.099] [Spread: 0.01799999] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: 402.72168739] [7dAvg: 0.0992472]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.08100001 = 4.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.08000001 = 4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol 20% spread
Diablo-D3: Obsi: usagi called hrpt a scam :<
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 90 @ 0.08 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Obsi: yall are a buncha drama queens
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.08 BTC [-]
Obsi: I now think of you guys as "matthew lite"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24224 @ 0.00039957 = 9.6792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21843 @ 0.00040027 = 8.7431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.00040065 = 24.1191 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00040076 = 1.042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15038 @ 0.00040089 = 6.0286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00040113 = 17.5294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32395 @ 0.00040116 = 12.9956 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: and you think of yourself as pirate lite ?
mircea_popescu: obsi : screw you guys, i'm going home!
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 21 @ 0.03 = 0.63 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: echo chamber much?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 21 @ 0.03 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 21 @ 0.03 = 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 42 @ 0.0865 = 3.633 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0865 = 0.4325 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: your email is still usagi.meijin@gmail.com ?
Obsi: Not sure... prolly dusts graph or usagi dumping
Obsi: waiting for another GLBSE deposit to buy moar
Obsi: Still paying and I'm happy to buy any amount of shares at 0.08
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 92 @ 0.0865 = 7.958 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.09888 = 1.9776 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 28 @ 0.09888999 = 2.7689 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.09889 = 0.7911 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.09889995 = 1.0879 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09889996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09889997 = 0.989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09889998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0989 = 0.4945 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0999 = 9.8901 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 425 @ 0.1 = 42.5 BTC [+]
Obsi: Well that makes my incoming deposit kinda pointless... anyone wanna sell OBSI.1MHS or ABMO at discount?
Obsi: How much?
Diablo-D3: http://otakutalk.org/topic/894
Diablo-D3: lol
Diablo-D3: lol now usagi is repeating lines from me
Obsi: You need to get Munger
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7321 = 3.6605 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.732 = 6.588 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73100001 = 1.462 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.731 = 2.924 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.73000001 = 2.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14100 @ 0.0004 = 5.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7919 @ 0.00039518 = 3.1294 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17581 @ 0.00039487 = 6.9422 BTC [-]
Obsi: usagi bought up all the under 0.1
Diablo-D3: okay so
Diablo-D3: usagi calls hrpt a scam
Obsi: my coin
Diablo-D3: price plummets
Diablo-D3: usagi buys cheap hrpt
Diablo-D3: price goes up
MoneyIsDebt: well... first he calls it a ponzi, says he'll dump it, then price falls , THEN he buys them cheap
Diablo-D3: MoneyIsDebt: exactly
Diablo-D3: whos the scammer here, eh?
Obsi: nope
Obsi: I was depositing coin in my GLBSE account and he sniped it
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: obsi was going to buy hrpt shares for himself
Obsi: usagi bought up the opportunity before I could
Obsi: with his coin
Diablo-D3: what usagi did would be considered illegal in the real world
Diablo-D3: but oh well
Diablo-D3: usagi: dude! I quoted what you said!
Diablo-D3: do you deny it?
rg: i buy bitvps shares back
rg: theres nothing wrong with that
Diablo-D3: [10:38:41] <usagi> Boy am I glad I started selling out my OBSI earlier before the crash
Diablo-D3: [10:38:53] <usagi> No way I'm getting stuck in another ponzi but now I'm trapped
Diablo-D3: [10:38:58] <usagi> I have like, several thousand shares to sell
Diablo-D3: [10:39:03] <usagi> and it's under .1
mircea_popescu: rg you don't go around fuding it first tho.
rg: #1 rule of IRC
rg: dont believe everything you read
rg: you should all know that.
Diablo-D3: usagi: what you did was say obsi.hrpt was a scam, wait for the prices to plummet, and then you bought them cheap
Diablo-D3: that IS illegal on wall street.
Diablo-D3: you're like 15!
Diablo-D3: yes, because I'd strangle people for putting millions of people out of work so they could buy a new yacht!
rg: idont see the problem here
Diablo-D3: you're no different than them
rg: he thought one thing
rg: changed his mind
rg: and bought
rg: that happens all the time
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 13 @ 1 = 13 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rg: no, he spread rumors, waited for price to plummet, then bought
kakobrekla: define spreading the rumor
rg: puh leaze
rg: Diablo-D3 is just pissy cause of DMC
Diablo-D3: rg: nope
Diablo-D3: nefario is just a small blip on the radar
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0978 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 33 @ 1 = 33 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: even if nefario makes usagi the new "ceo", DMC will continue on without their interference
mircea_popescu: and their assets.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the assets can be replaced.
mircea_popescu: the only truely irreplaceable thing is the ceo's vision, rite ?
Diablo-D3: I will continue to record those assets as stolen, and on every single monthly report on who stole them.
Diablo-D3: it will never be forgotten what nefario and usagi have done
Diablo-D3: usagi: you're not fooling anyone here
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I am the founder of CEO, I hold those on behalf of the shareholders
Diablo-D3: what we have is a single shareholder trying to take over the company
Diablo-D3: and its not going to work
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I have to go away? lol.
Diablo-D3: I will hold the money for shareholders until nefario can be forced to turn the data over.
rg: [14:22] <Diablo-D3> what we have is a single shareholder trying to take over the company
rg: lol
rg: awesome
rg: corporate takeover/intrigue!
mircea_popescu: srsly.
rg: at least its interesting
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: shares
Diablo-D3: usagi: you can paste whatever you want.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but then the money goes into a trust until it can be turned over to the legitimate shareholders
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: nefario cant touch anything that isnt on glbse
Diablo-D3: usagi: you can claim whatever you want
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 7 @ 0.0045 = 0.0315 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.5889 = 2.3556 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and Ive already told obsi what you asked me to do
Diablo-D3: he already knows
Diablo-D3: and I already apologized to him in private
Diablo-D3: there is no problem with asicminer, and his 2:1 trade for it was a great deal
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: Im never building a company like that ever again
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: greedy people will try to steal everything you have
Diablo-D3: DMC will survive usagi and nefario
Obsi: like sitting in a piranha tank
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: Ive repeatedly answered your questions, why continue asking them?
Diablo-D3: what am I, obama?
Diablo-D3: HERP DERP BORN IN KENYA
Diablo-D3: HERP DERP BORN IN KENYA
Diablo-D3: HERP DERP BORN IN KENYA
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: thats all I hear out of you.
Diablo-D3: so go troll elsewhere
Diablo-D3: usagi: I asked you to insure DMC with CPA, and you know what you told me? "we cant, the people I invested the money in stole it"
Diablo-D3: usagi: and you know what you said when I asked you to manage the assets with nyan or bmf? "abmo is a scam"
Diablo-D3: Dude, you sold me out long ago
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 39 @ 0.10050001 = 3.9195 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 9 @ 0.1005 = 0.9045 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 37 @ 0.10040001 = 3.7148 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: You never did help me!
Diablo-D3: All you did was try to make a grab for the DMC assets and fuck over all the other shareholders
OneMiner: Birthers??!? lol
Diablo-D3: Wow, we were dating? I didn't even get a dinner.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: thats what it feels like
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00040032 = 0.9608 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: apparently dedi/cloud resale contracts "cost thousands of btc, thus Diablo stole them"
mircea_popescu: ok, guys, who stole my car ?
Diablo-D3: usagi: I have repeatedly answered that question
Diablo-D3: and Ive already said on the thread that _you_ agreed with my assessment.
Diablo-D3: I dont have a personal portfolio
Diablo-D3: I never claimed I did
Diablo-D3: if you get 100% of the assets? YES YOU DO.
Diablo-D3: usagi: if you're so pro-DMC, then vote to keep me as CEO on nefario's fake motion that he wont put up
Diablo-D3: lol
Diablo-D3: usagi: both you and nefario will probably end up with scammer tags on the forum because of this
mircea_popescu: srsly ?
OneMiner: Smoovious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requirements_for_becoming_a_president#United_States_of_America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 9 @ 0.10627924 = 0.9565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 5 @ 0.10619574 = 0.531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 986 @ 0.08730379 = 86.0815 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: Im not the only one that thinks this
Diablo-D3: you ask me to turn on obsi even though Im a shareholder of half of abmo
Diablo-D3: you refuse to insure dmc
Diablo-D3: you refuse to manage dmc's assets
Diablo-D3: and then you back up nefario when he pulls this shit
Diablo-D3: because _you didnt want abmo_
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 2 @ 0.22494287 = 0.4499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 884 @ 0.18299172 = 161.7647 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: and suggested I tell obsi that asicminer is going to not deliver so I could get his 5000 shares of asicminer
mircea_popescu: wait what ?
copumpkin: Smoovious: is it the shit that michael jackson has been munching on for the past couple of decades?
copumpkin: I've been eating that for a while too
Diablo-D3: I did what my shareholders asked! Why the fuck do you I worked my ass of on this deal to bring in more revenue and serve the bitcoin community better!
OneMiner: Smoovious I'm all for that. Send it to the courts, that's what they are there for. Continuously redefining the country to improve it should be a goal.
Diablo-D3: they wanted more money, and thats what I tried to do!
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 4 @ 0.06825929 = 0.273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 12 @ 0.06357143 = 0.7629 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 734 @ 0.05344827 = 39.231 BTC [-]
OneMiner: While I'm a fan of much of the constitution, it's reasonable to expect that changes will be made over time. For example the 2nd amendment. I interpet that as a gun to the head of the govt., the designers of the constitution wanted to be sure that a govt. not of the people couldn't stand. Now we have cruise missles and I feel that the orginal intent has been defeated. What should happen? We stick with what we have and change nothing? Scrap the 2n
OneMiner: d? Or redefine it to fit with the orginal intent? That's what congress should be doing, then the courts take over from there. Insteadwe have bla, nothing, a promise to not get anything done untill the election.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 2 @ 0.000239 = 0.0005 BTC [-]
OneMiner: Holding a knife is bearing arms too you know. I don't think they have gone so overboard. You can buy a long rifle in any state.
OneMiner: I don't care if you can buy M60s no citizen millitia can stand against even the National Guard. The orginal intent of the 2nd is dead dead dead.
Obsi: Whoever wants > 1% returns a day I guess
mircea_popescu: <OneMiner> I don't care if you can buy M60s no citizen millitia can stand against even the National Guard. The orginal intent of the 2nd is dead dead dead. << this is wrong.
mircea_popescu: afganistan is still standing just fine, against the whole us military.
mircea_popescu: currently, nothing can defeat a citizen militia.
OneMiner: I dig. You got some points there. But I don't think you really understand how coordinated and powerful they are. Afganistan is a cluster F at this point. The mission is all screwed up. The army is acting as a punching bag.
mircea_popescu: ya well...
mircea_popescu: so it's not REALLY the gun that's the problem. will and discipline are.
mircea_popescu: like it was with the war of independence, just more so.
copumpkin: You and whose army?
mircea_popescu: jcpham http://trilema.com/2011/barbecuran/#comment-88769
OneMiner: Ya, Iraq was a cluster F from the start.
OneMiner: All the wars where the US decided to just F up the enemy were won hands down. You can see the other results.
mircea_popescu: vietnam ?
OneMiner: Oh, except when we tried to invade Canada, damn igloo building pinkos.
mircea_popescu: seems to me the russians won ww2, so. meh. dubious argument but anyway not really fit for -assets.
OneMiner: Vietnam was all about nation building. Propping up the South against the Commie North. That war fits into the second catagory.
OneMiner: mircea_popescu If there was one less front the Russians would have walked into a meat grinder. It was the combined effort and I'm sick of people saying X won WWII.
mircea_popescu: ok so then pretty much the conclusion is the us won no war to your standards,
mircea_popescu: just participated in a lot of messes.
OneMiner: EskimoBob are you reading what I'm writing?
OneMiner: The US kicked ass in the war of independence, Mexican America war, Korea, I'm probably missing some others... Panama, Granada.
OneMiner: Ya, the Americans played their part in them. I'm NOT suggesting the US won WWI-II by themselves at all. Just that the alies would have gotten their spleens handed to them.
mircea_popescu: granada ok.
OneMiner: Smoovious +1
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16100 @ 0.00040513 = 6.5226 BTC [+]
OneMiner: I'm out guys. Bye.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.10399 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.00999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0978 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 12 @ 1 = 12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 2 @ 0.00999999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.095 = 9.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 329 @ 0.00999999 = 3.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 421 @ 0.00999999 = 4.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 265 @ 0.00039677 = 0.1051 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
novusordo: the drama level in this channel is over 9000
novusordo: sons, i am dissapoint
kakobrekla: drama makes world go round.
novusordo: this community needs a solid boot to the ass
novusordo: we're supposed to be launching the world's first successful cryptocurrency into primetime
FabianB: more love and peace
kakobrekla: novusordo, supposed to. :)
mircea_popescu: novusordo some of us are.
mircea_popescu: in every office a couple guys do all the work, the rest just dick about.
novusordo: it just burns me to see a project with such great potential getting shat on by asshats
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 21 @ 0.0329998 = 0.693 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i guess it shall pass.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.649 = 6.49 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: novusordo which project is that ?
novusordo: mircea_popescu: Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: im sure it'll be fine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9935 @ 0.00039677 = 3.9419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1 @ 0.8702005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1 @ 0.85457684 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 712 @ 0.79449104 = 565.6776 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.09999999 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-]
novusordo: of course, everything passes with time. it's just aggravating.
mircea_popescu: see, when they say bitcoin is resilient and when they say no government could take it down
mircea_popescu: they mean it
mircea_popescu: no human agency, even if working from within, even if it be the agency of idiocy.
toffoo: novusordo: I dunno, I think you could argue that a system as free, open, and unregulated as bitcoin will always invite a fair share of asshats. it's the cost of freedom.
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 5 @ 0.1051 = 0.5255 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 75 @ 0.1001 = 7.5075 BTC [-]
jcpham: sorry mircea_popescu i attract the trolls
mircea_popescu: lol
jcpham: i shared it here and with one person
mircea_popescu: i dun care.
jcpham: me neither
jcpham: forgot about it already
jcpham: i need a text transcript
mircea_popescu: whne you run the largest blog in any language space for a few years running you get immune or dead.
jcpham: where you are screaming "down with islam"
mircea_popescu: lol it's nothing of the sort, i just read from them
mircea_popescu: there's a funny ? ? ? profit joke in there too
Diablo-D3: btw
Diablo-D3: why the fuck is it every major css thing sucks
Diablo-D3: its insane
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.1399 = 1.399 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:OBSI.HRPT] [Bid: 0.094] [Ask: 0.09999997] [Spread: 0.00599997] [Last: 0.09999999] [24hVol: 500.05041498] [7dAvg: 0.09897859]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.00999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12602 @ 0.00040005 = 5.0414 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.0003962 = 9.5088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13998 @ 0.00039613 = 5.545 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 15 @ 0.03 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.09999991 = 3.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0034 = 0.0238 BTC [+]
novusordo: !ticker ASICMINER
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.1004] [Ask: 0.10399] [Spread: 0.00359] [Last: 0.10399] [24hVol: 76.70169334] [7dAvg: 0.10965608]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.09999989 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 19 @ 0.099 = 1.881 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 15 @ 0.0155 = 0.2325 BTC [+]