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smickles: who makes money by shipping all my plastic
to ghana?
smickles: if all of africal died, i'd say
that's a pretty big market opportunity
dub: smickles:
thats what happens
to most of your countries recylcling
mircea_popescu: if you imagine
that
the entire population of africa croaking
tomorrow would make any difference you're dreaming.
dub: mircea_popescu:
that is not a realistic end game
dub: dick flies away in his magic rocket
to another place and starts over?
smickles: What are
they burning plastic for?
dub: mircea_popescu: what happens when
there are no more habitable huts
smickles: what's
this fun with dick and jane? /me scrolls log
mircea_popescu: not everyone belongs in a palace. most people belong in
the huts, so as
to have palaces. for just a few.
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't want
the risk of breaking a nail she can do w/o
the crumb.
dub: what happens when jane dies and dick has
to look after his own shit
mircea_popescu: the assumption underlying your evaluation is
that dick = jane
dub: he is ensuring
that she cannot?
pigeons: there is no response
to his statement
dub: the countries
that understand
the need
to recycle/manage waste
dub: its easy
to infer my meaning
though
dub: doesn't quite fit
the 'free market' ideology
dub: the point of life is for
the civilised world
to ensure
that
the uncivilised never catch up?
jurov: welcome. seems you were on
the wrong side of
the split :P
jurov: so both are allocated as appropriate part of
total exercises?
jurov: mircea, is
there any difference in exercising MKOPT and SPLIT-issued option for
the issuer?
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mod6: you've had a bunch of good posts in english on
trilema, so
thx for
that
mircea_popescu: should give
the people who didn't learn math in school a chance
too
mod6: maybe i'll get a chance
to write something
though, we'll see. I just got
this new lappy working - its /way/ faster for running
the android emulator
mod6: I
thought about writing something -- but I better just stick
to getting BitOTTer finished
mod6: I read
the post for sure - I
think its a really interesting/worthwhile idea
to get some well-thought out discussion on
the matter.
thestringpuller: How do you know
the writing contest won't be a political campaign
mircea_popescu: not much he can do. picked
the wrong exchange, everyone's fucked.
mircea_popescu: i can see
the guy's position. how can he know you didn't sell
the shares on glbse
Atomic-Closed: at
this point its hard
to even know with no access
to glbse
Atomic-Closed: It was pre
the second ipo. Or when
the shares were aded
mircea_popescu: anyway. so you had
the investment pre-ipo and were allocated glbse shares after ipo ?
mircea_popescu: i am
the fucking dean of age of btc finance.
this is sad, i've barely been here a year.
smickles: JWU_42: shakaru
told me himself, and sent me pics of it while he was still saying he'd pay me ~600 btc
that he owed (still owed) me
mircea_popescu: i had no idea shakaru had anything
to do with it either.
Atomic-Closed: I heard
that his payement went
to
the repayment fund
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, but he let shakaru set up
the farm after he welched on a massive debt
JWU_42: I was not aware shakaru had anything
to do with
their Washington facility
smickles: well,
that op was in seatle, right?
JWU_42: what are you wanting him
to do exactly ?
smickles: Atomic-Closed: I
think you're likely just creating usless drama
smickles: I know how many shares I had, I likely know how many shares Azelphur has, and I likely know
the minimum # of shares imsaguy has. but I can't pay dividends
to any of us b/c we have no proof
Atomic-Closed: Im
thinking
that I just need
to post
the information
then. ITs
the lack of response here
that is killing me
JWU_42: need Nef
to step up and do what he said
JWU_42: I am in
that boat with YABMC - would love
to shut it down but can't at
this point
smickles: it's really
tough
to prove a negative statement
smickles: if you ever had
the ability
to sell
them, and don't have proof
that you didn't sell
them,
then you are in
the same position
BTC-Mining: aye, but were
they
transfered on GLBSE or held outside of GLBSE?
JWU_42: but doesn't mean you still hold
them
smickles: Atomic-Closed: did you ever have
the ability
to sell
them?
JWU_42: hmm -
that is a bit different
BTC-Mining: Imagine you're bitbond.
There's people claiming
to be owed X and you can't verify. You pay
them.
Then info is released and you realise many who claimed weren't owed anything at all
to start with...
Atomic-Closed: I was
told my
that investment was safe by
the issuer
smickles: Atomic-Closed: but without proof it would be wrong
to pay you and not
the others
smickles: and because nefario fucked
the issuer, he fucked you
too by proxy
BTC-Mining: It means
that with anonymity, with
the exchange closing, who is owed what got lost.
smickles: Atomic-Closed: what are you expecting here?
the issue can't do anything because nefario fucked
them
Atomic-Closed: So should
that mean
that all anonymity is null and void
too?
smickles: yeah, demanding
to be paid at
this point is unreasonable
BTC-Mining: He probably didn't answer on account of you demanding
to be paid?
smickles: in all seriousness, all glbse assets should be considered lost untill nefario releases
the data in provable way
BTC-Mining: I can
talk
to Bitbond's issuer... had no problem with
that.
Buglouse: smickles: You're cat would win, according
to you, you are its _owner_; slaves are not able
to appropriate contrancts?
jurov: they will say "we're waiting for nefario". what do you do
then?
Atomic-Closed: I have
the logs of
the presale and post sale conversations
Atomic-Closed: Im considering posting hte address of
the mining farm on
the forum
to atleaszt get a response from
the op
BTC-Mining: If you don't have a proof/document
that anything is owed...
jurov: if you so want
to sue, sue nefario. for undue delays
BTC-Mining: But
the issuer don't even know who is or is not a shareholder.
Taking input wouldn't even be feasible.
Atomic-Closed: Considering
that
the dividends are
to be payed on a set scheduled, and statements have been made
to how
they will be held until
the GLBSE crap is over without
the input of
the shareholders
BTC-Mining: I just don't see how you can pay anyone claiming
to be owed anything without a proof. Claims will be much higher
than what's owed.
smickles: 'cause
the rest of us can't prove how many (if any) shares we had
smickles: Is
the situation different for bitbond?
Atomic-Closed: I have
the address of
the mining operation and am ready
to file suit for unpayed dividends