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mircea_popescu: if i didn't know that it'd have never made sense.
mircea_popescu: we don't want that, so, unless she's pretty, she's screwed. (otherwise, she's fucked).
mircea_popescu: so here's the scoop : if we don't kill the ugly ones, they will slowly multiply and take over.
mircea_popescu: the world isn't structured so as to make it possible for you to survive.
ughlol: I can't understand how investors dont understand that a two man team can't make a very great app, not in the desired timeframe. They say that they'll invest when they see a prototype.
Neil: ThickAsThieves: b.t.w. with you on your discussion of 16hrs ago that I had to abandon for work
mircea_popescu: i can't even remember it ;/
Neil: Fscking Japanese pension system - they lost the records of 20 million people FFS. And then local govt employees were found pocketing money because the records were so inadequate they just could. You can't make something disappear from the block chain. Guy got up and walked off.
mircea_popescu: which i don't know because you just dropped here and started talking randomly.
ughlol: Half year? Im sorry, I don't understand.
Neil: Dude, who works for a media company, says "but bitcoin's not stable. Not robust. I worry about ... " and I'm thinking "WTF are you talking about? I can hardly imagine anything more stable/robust". I don't think I can relate on the same level any more. Too many people want "authority" to tell them what to do / think.
mircea_popescu: i dun see much future in the us, let alone any magic manifest destiny sort of future. then again, im not from there and ostensibly don't much care.
mircea_popescu: Neil beliefs and experiences aren't telling the whole story.
Neil: mp: I don't understand your point. Deeply held beliefs that are not handed down to you must have been formed by life experiences, I suspect.
Neil: jurov: well I realized about 3 years ago that all I'd been told about money (which was almost nothing - an amazing and likely deliberate gap of the education system) didn't make any sense. And I wanted to understand money. Started reading, and 6 months later find bitcoin (2011) and think wow, and then many things all became a lot clearer. Perhaps I'm slow, but in most things I'm not. Just never had really been given the right
mircea_popescu: but this doesn't excuse me from having to pick them first.
mircea_popescu: TomServo the guy is definitely more worthy of being read, on a ROP basis, than pretty much any economics professor. and he doesn't even charge.
Neil: mp: don't understand how your qn relates
Neil: It's interesting how people believe automation will eliminate their ability to do anything. But it's clear that people always want something more - that's the nature of being human after all. So there is always demand for more products / services. Why isn't that obvious?
mircea_popescu: so this put them in this strange position whereby even if they wanted to, they couldn't do anything.
mircea_popescu: i didn't dop anything lol
mircea_popescu: which is why we don't want more "adoption". we want more actual penetration. get off your ass do something, cause it ain't gonna do itself.
BingoBoingo: Well, if I am my own ISP that would suck wouldn't it...
BingoBoingo: No, they don't do some kinds of those in some jurisdictions
artifexd: And if it isn't available for streaming, just about everything available via torrent is available via nntp
BingoBoingo: I watch streaming shit. If stuff isn't on Hulu I'll watch it somewhere else.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: If there isn't time for shennanigans, there isn't time at all
nubbins`: don't bother clicking ;(
mircea_popescu: we weren't actually discussing that, i dun think.
pizzaman1337: this is just a striptease to see MP's bitcoin dick. We can't be impressed without a little build-up.
ThickAsThieves: we're just dancing anyway, i don't see any other way to interpret this
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, it wasn't some sort of "omg you're a bad person", it was more of a "why the fuck would you be shy of the world. fuck em."
Neil: Doesn't seem to me that came from people betting on bitbet; that's my only point.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't even aware im playin.
Neil: mircea_popescu: Coz you spent a huge output for the big payout on bitbet; it wasn't an input to anything plausible on bitbet in its history. So bitbet's wallet it definitely being mixed with something else - yours or mpoe's or ...
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: yeah, because in practice it can't all be turned into real btc at market rates
Neil: BingoBoingo: MPOE holdings aren't BTC.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Aren't his MPOE holdings largely public?
mircea_popescu: what, srsly, does it look to you like i ain't ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just discussing the more general point. why should you be in their heads ? because you're cool, and they aren't./
nubbins`: we just don't remember them ;D
nubbins`: haven't listened to much pj harvey altho i've got a few friends that are really into her
diametric: I still think its a good thing there is such transaction volume, even if it doesn't directly translate to bitcoin being exchanged and moved between people and groups.
diametric: nubbins`: i mean not that i'm a fan of WU or anything, but that doesn't really mean anything. I can send coins between wallets all day long and have more transaction volume than WU.
nubbins`: yoga pants aren't smell barriers, so i'd say it'd smell the same way yoga classes do now
nubbins`: !t h hif
pLambert: My ancestors moved to the US from Bohemia, now I can't find that place on a map!
mircea_popescu: http://t.co/TYx0hoW7OX
pLambert: you don't need meat for paleo
mircea_popescu: just as long as you don't make a lifetime out of it i dun see what it can hurt
pLambert: you could probably have your doctor do it, but I don't think you can do it at home
dub: those numbers don't come from science
mircea_popescu: whoa shit i can;'t keep uop with you people
mircea_popescu: judge can order whatever he wants, the bitcoin he can't touch
ThickAsThieves: they don't need a good reason in the losing party's estimation
blackwhite: You won't find a listing for that because no one want to take it unless they are mexicans. It's more or less the same problem around the world
asciilifeform: Diablo-D3: i have yet to run into an american who lamented 'i'd like to find work picking tomatoes, but couldn't on account of mexicans'
benkay: i don't think there's enough 'work' to absorb all the meat that would need to emigrate to empty out the usa.
KRS1: When you go to leave, the checkouts make a beeping sound. When multiplied by 20+ checkout lanes the sound is deafening. The people are low class and aren't afraid to show it.
KRS1: its...an experience. Its so big its ridiculous and you can't find help. The one where I live sells everything from sardines to tires.
joecool: "top 15 things most americans don't know about the tea party"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite a few u.s. folks know 'the dirt' re: 'the boston tea party.' it isn't exactly a national secret.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they paid for a wsj piece to explain how bitcoin isn't as good as gold.
mike_c: haha " After this version, DirectShow was moved to the Windows SDK". the windows devs didn't mind having it in their pile of crap
mircea_popescu: basically, the dev in charge of directx didn't want the shit in there anymore
mircea_popescu: mike_c nah, wasn't part of directx back in like... a decade ago at least
joecool: too bad didn't come out after april 15th
HeySteve: shouldn't have joined #dogecoin then
jcpham: gay dogs porn was something i didn't entirely want to see today
mircea_popescu: artifexd perhaps because it's the only one that satisfies some other criteria we don't know about.
mircea_popescu: they just don't interact linearly.
artifexd: I don't argue with what your saying. I would instead say that this particular manner of attack would be monumentally stupid in the case of bitcoin.
artifexd: If we assume that md5 is a "good" hash function, then how much data you put into it doesn't have any bearing on what you get out of it. Thus the first character remains, essentially, random regardless of whether the input is 200 bytes or 200 megabytes.
artifexd: Solidifying a group of tx into a block doesn't provide security in the same sense that 100 twigs in a bundle are stronger than 100 twigs seperately. It provide security in providing a stable time reference for when tx happened. Completely different domains.
artifexd: I'm fairly well versed in block/transaction/hash/etc mechanics and I am trying to wrap your metaphore around that structure. It doesn't make sense. I normally have a high amount of respect for what you say. In this case though, I think you're wrong. Or, I don't understand the variety and thus need more lurking.
mircea_popescu: buffett explains quite eminently why he doesn't want an accessibility of his stock in material linked yest
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem.
Neil: These things should be chosen by the market, just like fees. I doubt we'll get blocks much bigger than 1MB for a long time to come, even if there weren't a limit now.
Neil: Can't argue with that.
Neil: I don't know, it's my belief.
Neil: Well I believe the block size will increase. But also with say ~1k txns per 1MB block, I don't see people paying an average fee of 0.0013 BTC. Especially as I expect BTC to be significantly higher than today.
Neil: mircea_popescu: No way in 2016... I don't see blocks with 12.5 BTC fees, and certainly not at 1MB
Neil: ThickAsThieves: Didn't realize it was your bet :)#
mircea_popescu: Neil: I'm definitely in the top 3 bettors on bitbet; wouldn't be surprised if #1 by amt of BTC bet. Scary. << how much is that ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Chris_Sabian i wouldn't be too worried about it. 2013 made bitcoin, it's a cut deal.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c he has good points on the topic. then people wonder why he wasn't ever a topic of study by acaemia. which academia, the one that subsits on ex hedge fund manager alumni bequests ?
cazalla: i can't remember the article but it mentioned idiots who happened across bitcoin and made some money
cazalla: i learned that i shouldn't try to chug champagne from the bottle
Neil: Wouldn't say no if we happen to meet one day :)
Neil: But I don't use 1 address
Neil: I'm definitely in the top 3 bettors on bitbet; wouldn't be surprised if #1 by amt of BTC bet. Scary.
btcinmypocket: Neil: Well, that data was provided by someone(s) who had the lack of ethics to include bitcoin stealing trojans in with the publication, so I don't doubt you have finding problem with the records. I would expect that they would mess with a bit if there is incentive.
Neil: Karpeles seems to have been a complete fuckwit who just didn't take anything seriously; least of all other people's money. Assuming there wasn't fraud.
Neil: Some of my old transactions could be found on that web page that was put up, but some weren't there either. Very odd.
cazalla: if it was obvious to me at that point, i don't doubt smarter people bailed long before that
Neil: Doesn't need much of a pause to get there
cazalla: didn't think it would stay under 10%
the20year2: When I got into real estate, i didn't believe the statistic they told agents. So, I individually tracked dozens of properties in my area that were listed without realtors, vs those listed with them
the20year2: I don't know how many foreclosed houses I've been in that were 2nd time foreclosures in a 3-5 year period where the buyer had bought a foreclosure in the hopes of doing it themselves, then never completing repairs
the20year2: for a owner occupant, they don't want to lend on a property that might have $5k in repairs, or $15k