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spandrell: not that much of a noob
spandrell: nope, i'm a humanities grad
mircea_popescu: incidentally, do you have a pgp key ?
mircea_popescu: why would i want to read a tv show script, good lord. even the people paid to do it don't.
spandrell: there might be a version of the tv show with english subtitles
mircea_popescu: i'm genuinely curious whether it'll read offensive or you're just a pansy.
mircea_popescu: spandrell http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/ << there.
spandrell: well if this asciilifeform is a hot japanese chick then I might have met her
spandrell: i'm running a loose assemblage of my own, fwiw
mircea_popescu: well, it's a loose assemblage of terrorists dedicated to destroying the very possibility of what you'd call "a state" and salting the earth where it stood
spandrell: what is this place about? here i was thinking it was a bitcoin forum or something
spandrell: i was just listening to a podcast on venice while driving
mircea_popescu: "So basically, Confucius today would approve of Angela Merkel and Bryan Caplan. Thanks dude. No wonder he was never taken seriously by any of the dozens of kings of his time, and died a low-class civil servant. His universalism however was catnip for the nascent class of non-aristocratic bureaucrats, who developed it for centuries after his death. They loved this “we are above armies, borders, and that gruesome stuff. We ca
asciilifeform: fella is quite definitely a working mind.
mircea_popescu: this is approximately how a working thinker works.
mircea_popescu: he is clever. to wit : "What kind of intellectual climate existed in that time. What happens when everyone is coming up with new ideas all the time? Think about it in contemporary terms. What happens when everybody and his grandma has his own ideas is… a whole lot of signaling spirals."
asciilifeform: he's a goldmine of chinese lulz
trinque: "Luckily, signature verification crypto doesn't have to worry about side channel attacks. Alternatively, we could add openssl as a dependency and outsource the signature verification to it."
asciilifeform: in up, thus reducing the likely costs of defection. The way to signal your intention to defect is to come up with a good excuse. A good excuse to be disloyal becomes a rallying point through which other defectors can coordinate and cover their asses so that the ruling coalition doesn’t punish them. What is a good excuse?'
asciilifeform: 'More likely than not, some members of the ruling coalition are not very loyal. They’d rather defect. But they can’t backstab the coalition just like that. You don’t do that; it looks bad. Your comrades will go against you. There are costs to defection. Unless you’re not the only defector. You need a way to signal your intention to defect, so that other disloyal fucks such as yourself (and they’re bound to be others) can jo
asciilifeform: venerated, and the gift of the mango was lauded as evidence of the Chairman’s deep concern for the workers. Then everyone in the factory filed by and each worker drank a spoonful of the water in which the sacred mango had been boiled. After that, the revolutionary committee ordered a wax model of the original mango. The replica was duly made and placed on the altar to replace the real fruit, and workers continued to file by, their
asciilifeform: ration. The wax-covered fruit was placed on an altar in the factory auditorium, and workers lined up to file past it, solemnly bowing as they walked by. No one had thought to sterilize the mango before sealing it, however, and after a few days on display, it began to show signs of rot. The revolutionary committee of the factory retrieved the rotting mango, peeled it, then boiled the flesh in a huge pot of water. Mao again was greatly
asciilifeform: 'Mao gave the mangoes to Wang Dongxing, who divided them up, distributing one mango each to a number of leading factories in Beijing, including Beijing Textile Factory, where I was then living. The workers at the factory held a huge ceremony, rich in the recitation of Mao’s words, to welcome the arrival of the mango, then sealed the fruit in wax, hoping to preserve it for posterity. The mangoes became sacred relics, objects of vene
asciilifeform: i've never actually met an adult who had the experience and wasn't a traumatic wreck. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 16:04 mircea_popescu: nor has it ever been, actually. so as a practical matter, you're guaranteed some contamination.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475866 << installing a wholly new mental operating system ~cannot~ be a 'rational' decision, nor is it really a decision as such, more of a 'cock action' that is done ~to~ somebody. ☝︎
asciilifeform: nor is effective army a thing if he gets to cut.
mircea_popescu: nor has it ever been, actually. so as a practical matter, you're guaranteed some contamination. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i see cult as less of a religious mechanism and more of effective form of military organization. historically - misused.
asciilifeform: in what sense is, say, mircea_popescu's terrarium, where six gurls spin on cock like a peculiarly inverted set of propellers of 6-engined junkers, not a 'cult of solid'.
mircea_popescu: your notion that "gods" could be just a label, and then you promote "science" to "god-dom" and everythig will be ok because "it's not really a god" is outright endearing.
mircea_popescu: how do you at this point distinguish this encounter from you know, joining a cult ?
mircea_popescu: quite a lot...
mircea_popescu: and there's a lot to read up on...
mircea_popescu: so, you're a young and enthused, reasonably clever, 19yo girl in random shithole country.
asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that 'screaming - you build a force field wall against, subtle - worms its way in' but mircea_popescu isn't sitting there with cheap beer watching industria argentina filmz, is he now.
asciilifeform: it is a great multilayered gag - what is even there to solder on component-side of pc mobo.
mircea_popescu: thgere was an action movie with an old fuck holding a rifle exactly like a fishing rod
asciilifeform: because think, how heavy a fishing pole !
mircea_popescu: obviously, a certain lassitude of thought is required to think properly. but nowhere is it said that if you shit in toilet, you must also bathe in toilet, eat from toilet...
mircea_popescu: it's a wonderful thing, i don't rightly understand it either, but they're terrible at it.
mircea_popescu: but, like music, or love or whatever the fuck, it's a complete package, with motivation falling within it not without it.
mircea_popescu: being a scientist is not, nor can be, ~ a profession~. you understand ?
mircea_popescu: you suppose if a coupla choice quotes get your penis wet, shakespeare goers "oh look, some fuckwad got laid, my life's not been in vain" ?
asciilifeform: nah but if folks with actual brainz got a hold of it - then ~possibly~ something.
mircea_popescu: and the idea is that if pbs made a weekend special about it, what, majorana'd feel better ?
mircea_popescu: you're just another retarded teenage whore with a narcissism complex.
asciilifeform: a 'mircea_popescu institute of physics' or whatnot.
asciilifeform: there is not yet a 3rd planet.
mircea_popescu: this is a problem.
asciilifeform: well it was a problem in the sense that
mircea_popescu: that's not much of a problem is it ?
asciilifeform: he had a very particular problem
asciilifeform: 'his' in the same sense a usg carrier is the captain's.
asciilifeform: this is PRECISELY mircea_popescu's argument in favour of 'symbolics died and it was good, we dodged a bullet'
mircea_popescu: it'd be a major overhaul.
mircea_popescu: well, the reason that is all we have is that previous physics died in a pool of its own vomit ; and that current math is not up to the task of supporting a repair.
asciilifeform: is the presence of the 2 eotvos balances a net positive? or would we actually have a handle on schwartz's result if everyone was STUCK with my $50k version of the experiment (calorimeter.)
mircea_popescu: again, it's a detector, not a guillotine.
asciilifeform: they EXPLICITLY rejected testability as a value.
mircea_popescu: it's a detector! it's jobn is to detect!
mircea_popescu: but you seem to have attached in a random spot to my comparison, that wasn't in any sense contemplated in the original discussion.
asciilifeform: logic being that icbm was not a pure 'let's build pyramid to show how massive the imperial cock' exercise. it had measurable goals, like building bridge.
mircea_popescu: well, it could be such a thing, in fiction.
asciilifeform: the item in question is 'benevolent inca empire wants to give $billion to physics' but you can't give 'to physics' because that's somewhere between 0 to 3 guys and nobody's gonna give some unwashed weirdos a $b
mircea_popescu: what exactly "megalomaniacal" ? i dun get it. it's a tool.
mircea_popescu: and in physics, you could spend 10bn years with a spaceship and a huge fly net, get same effect.
asciilifeform: 'we forgot how to synthesize so let's collect shiny shings, like a crow'
asciilifeform: automated proofs are usg crapolade, i speak as a reformed and repented purveyor
mircea_popescu: yeah well, good luck with that. nosce te ipsum's a bridge too far
asciilifeform: that's a surrender, may as well go back to trees.
mircea_popescu: point remains, the way ahead is probably going to be automated maths (as we discussed re v a year ago) applied to immense reams of data. just like in genetics, and so following.
mircea_popescu: eh get out, and solid state gyros are a thing of the devil ?
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of it. "physics" is not a thing. the paradigm is too broken to rescue.
mircea_popescu: lotta classification work in nature before anatomy became a thing
mircea_popescu: it's moved into a big data phase
asciilifeform: modern day unphysics is made of a thousand little adelberger scum.
mircea_popescu: "a proper prince's penis should be as long as my thumb" said the 12 yo princess in her diary.
asciilifeform: it is a dead end in that sense
mircea_popescu: even the sentence as stated, "oh, universe begun x bn years ago". "really, it was years ? what spun around what sun, that top of a mother of yours ?"
mircea_popescu: hence a certain quaint oldstyle philosopher merit in the stance. "fuck you, you don't know anything" said diogenes in his 3600 yo tub.
mircea_popescu: for that matter we know for a fact that speed of light isn't a constant at large timescales.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's say that the resulting "age of universe" constant is more a function of what subset of experimental data you look at ; than anything else.
mircea_popescu: it's all a matter of "hey, check out how well these variables fit". "mmmkay ?"
asciilifeform: shinohai: a good chunk of usa does
mircea_popescu: whether anything is true or not is a complex matter ; but it could be arguabe ~to the same standard~.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron why even bother, rather than declare a number, and preferably a platonic number or something, and then forever stick to that. "it's been 3600 years ago".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had a few 3
mircea_popescu: a something like that ? what about 3 then.
mircea_popescu: what naked eye ? i paste you a pubkey and you tell me if it's even by looking at the armor ?
mircea_popescu: for the record, as ridiculous as the whole "earth was created ~30k years ago by a trickster that salted it with fossils to fuck with you" is ; it is no more or less ridiculous (seeing how absolutes aren't comparable) than all sorts of commonly accepted idiocies. such as the notion that man "always" had some sort of "equality" notion, along with a whole host of imbecile anachronisms the general herd entertains ; or that humani
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 05:33 ben_vulpes: i am likely going to buy a license because what, i pay half that per year per staff member just to derp on ios shits with some modicum less of friction
mircea_popescu: certainly a possibility.
asciilifeform: something, i expect, quite simple, just put in a JMP over the primality check .
mircea_popescu: why not ? what you say and what i say aren't in any sense exclusive. yes it was the time of a horde of imbeciles "saving hte world". the behaviour of such horde is exactly as per the soap example. an item will not be used because it exists and is useful ; consequently existence and functionality aren't predictive.
asciilifeform: ergo i expect that trivial keyz were not simply a matter of 'proggy P'.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: it has never been this great to be a teenager, i swear.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 15:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even a matter of sons ; the usg has no sons, nor any vigor in the seed. it's a matter of desperation - everything americans don't buy, the chinese buy, take apart and move to china.
asciilifeform: a modern gpg key
mircea_popescu: it has never been this great to be a teenager, i swear. ☟︎