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jurov: moving
to
that exchange level doesn't really solve
that.
the exchanges must
trust each other anyway
jurov: how do
they verify no one other has
them?
jurov: whole pgp chain
thing has one problem, i can send
the same bonds properly signed
to
two different people
Diablo-D3: so no need
to do massive pgp chains since
they'd never exit
the exchange
Diablo-D3: multiple exchanges could
trade
the bonds as passthrough shares
Diablo-D3: well, would it be a viable way of doing
this
Diablo-D3: well like, what would stop you from buying, say, 50
thousand bonds, and
then issuing 50
thousand shares of passthrough?
Diablo-D3: you do pass
through shit on mpex right?
kakobreklaaa: remember, i was at
that connference in slovenia
Diablo-D3: its up
to
the bond holder
to report his
taxes, right?
Diablo-D3: yeah, I dont
think I have
to worry about legal regulations on issuing
these bonds
kakobreklaaa: if someone sticks a nose in and
tries
to
tax em or whatever simmilar
kakobreklaaa: i know im safe as long nobody is going after
them
Diablo-D3: upload your
text file, it recursively pgps
Diablo-D3: I'd just put a page up somewhere
that does it
mircea_popescu: kinda makes it hard for
the 50th user
to see if
the
thing he's being sold is valid.
Diablo-D3: so I'd just write a sh script
that just keeps running pgp over and over
Diablo-D3: you'd sign
the signed message
to do it
mircea_popescu: that'll be fun, if one blob makes it
through 50-100 people.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, but
they'd need
to also pgp sign it notating who it was sent
to
mircea_popescu: what sense does
that make ? he who sent
the blob can still claim on it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so Im
thinking a non-callable zero-coupon bond
Diablo-D3: and whoever has
them by
the date of maturity can send
them back
to me for payment
Diablo-D3: and
then
they can sell
them
to other people if
they want
Diablo-D3: like, people buy
them, I send
them a pgp signed blob
Diablo-D3: I dont
think I want shareholders
this
time
mircea_popescu: i guess
the bar
to attract finance has raised considerably
Diablo-D3: like,
they say when doing
the
tech startup game, you're supposed
to get right back on
the horse
Diablo-D3: just let
the dmc 1.0 shit sit in a seperate legal container all by itself
Diablo-D3: I wonder if I should just go start dmc 2.0 and
try again
mircea_popescu: tbh : he as far as we know gave "sort-of" a list
to giga
Diablo-D3: Im glad giga scared him straight, none of
the rest of us have
the money for it
Diablo-D3: and I cant sue him because DMC just doesnt have
the resources for
that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: same difference in
the end
mircea_popescu: it's not clear what exactly
the contract was, but probably what you say can be claimed as an implicit agreement
Diablo-D3: the moment he closed doors he was in default of
that contract
Diablo-D3: the contract with glbse was between dmc and glbse, he was paid x btc
to register
the asset.
Diablo-D3: and
then everyone jumped up my ass on
the
thread because I said exactly
that
Diablo-D3: because I hired nefario
to do a job
Diablo-D3: yeah, I dont know what
to do either
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's one of
those
things gigavps is paying counsel for.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what
to say. if you get
the list, someone not on it
throws a shitfit and claims nefario made a mistake i literally do not know what i'd do.
Diablo-D3: like, when I get
the list, is
that
the final defacto list and if you're not on it you're boned?
Diablo-D3: btw, is
this when I cut off valid claims?
mircea_popescu: as in, nobody of
the people who sent email of w/e had any shares in
them
jurov: hehe... no reason
to. Unless all articles were submitted by
the same user, which isn't
the case.
mircea_popescu: the problem i
think is if each
trilema article ends up
there
they'll prolly ban me or something
mircea_popescu: jurov seems pretty much everyone likes bitstamp, unless
they fuck up
they'll be #2 in short order.
jurov: did not collect statically significant data on reliability,
tho :P
smickles: Azelphur: actually, if he's using
the same sort
that he used
to display
the full asset list, it'll be well over a week
till us
Azelphur: there isn't exactly
that many assets
Azelphur: true, but at 3-4 a day you can't be
too far down
the list
smickles: and I don't understand
the limit of 3-4 per day
smickles: mircea_popescu: i can sign and send you
the cert
to import if you are actually concerned about
the state of
https on my blog ;)
mircea_popescu: hehe it's not signed in any way, it's just a
trackback
that links
to a
https address
smickles: i sent a
track back manually, prolly
the
https one, i'll refrain in
the future ;)
smickles: so i don't broadcast my password in
the clear
smickles: mircea_popescu: huh, it must do one automatically, and
the
https i have set up is just for me
MrTiggr: if
thats
the same article i read ;)
MrTiggr: its only microwave invisibility
though isnt it ? not visible spectrum ... and only centimetre or less sized items
Azelphur: was what I was
thinking would yield
the answer :P
Azelphur: yea,
that's what I was planning on doing
Azelphur: I don't keep business accounts separate from personal, so
that ain't gonna work :P
mircea_popescu: - all you paid for btc added
together + all you were paid for btc added
togheter
Azelphur: math question, if I'm arbitrating bitcoins, and I have a database with all my
trades in it (buy and sell) how do I calculate my profits? is it
the difference between average rate *
total amount on buy and sell orders?
mircea_popescu: you don't just get pies in
the face, you get pies in
the ass
too.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I actually have an interview with
the SEC folks coming up next week, I offered
to give
them any info I have
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: not just pies in face,
the SEC are after him
Namjies: Then it's shared. I don't remember what percentage of
the profits
the shares actually represent.
Namjies: ASICMINER shares get
their .10 paid in dividends in full first from all profits.
Diablo-D3: yes, just not as a full
time
thing for
the first batch