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mircea_popescu: most bloggers had to wait years.
mircea_popescu: your blogger career is starting pretty good if mag journalists are already apologizing to you
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, yeah. a part of me responded with BS, and another part wanted to respond with "well, I put it that way because it was just a little sensational"
mircea_popescu: smickles : "There were no "suspicious" motives involved here. I would have gladly thrown in MPEX had I remembered that it has BTC options available. That's it. I just overlooked you. I'm sorry. (And by the way it's fixed now)"
mircea_popescu: btc being able to help is by no means a foregone conclusion
mircea_popescu: sgornick there's some huge problems with funding start-ups via btc however.
sgornick: i.e., lots of need for these, as we decide technology can enable what the law won't.
sgornick: "typical KickStarter deals won’t naturally transfer to equity crowdfunding and the vast majority of startup founders won’t receive any help at all from the JOBS Act"
sgornick: > to think that only a few short months away everyone was pissing their pants thinking of the sec.
smickles: rg was last active there at 5:35 utc (it's now 18:30)
mircea_popescu: well will they ?
smickles: <@rg> but im going to go ahead and merge bitvps >> my new job << what does this mean for s.bvps shareholders? Will they be bought out?
mircea_popescu: seems MORE LIKE THE OTHER WAY AROUND
mircea_popescu: so who was saying i'm in for a loads of pressure from the sec ?
kakobrekla: reminds me of the limits of control
Ukto: makes sense to me
mircea_popescu: #1 reason nobody of any worth bothers with that spamsite.
smickles: heh, so true
mircea_popescu: uh-oh, make way for the wikiretard framing the discussion team.
mircea_popescu: these idiots think this little trick of framing the discussion is such pure unadulterated genius
mircea_popescu: I think part of the problem is that we’re looking at it from two different viewpoints. I’m looking for what’s going to help the Wikipedia article, and others are looking for what’s going to help the subject itself, Bitcoin.
smickles: can someone take a look at my first paragraph here http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#comment-12 and tell me if i'm making sense, if I am, i will bring it to the discussion in the bitcoin wikipedia page
Ukto: he was the largest glbse asset
PsychoticBoy: So giga is #1 not to pay
PsychoticBoy: giga is off, probably got to hot under his feet
mircea_popescu: the only way to handle that is through a lawyer
mircea_popescu: well people will have to at the very least sign a renounciation of claim
PsychoticBoy: yep thats w\hat i mean ;)
PsychoticBoy: I can pay, thats not the point, Its the whole ¨its not my responsibility anymore go to my lawyer¨ thing that stings me
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy expect the laywer to want to be paid up front tho
PsychoticBoy: I will take ABM/PGM to a lawyer too, send info or never get paid mwuhahaha
mircea_popescu: high volume of first timers. ouch.
mircea_popescu: especially coupled with the insanity.
Ukto: I concur, giga has or will be paying quite a bit for them to handle the volume
gigavps: pigeons you still in town?
pigeons: giga likely paid a lot for his counsel, so he's likely to follow it
mircea_popescu: probably an ultimately doomed but otherwise brave attempt to plug all loopholes.
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy seems to me more like the recognition of how fucked up things are than any sort of loophole.
mircea_popescu: ya, that famous counsel still hath not answered.
pigeons: "and if i i ever give advice like the law student nefario met in a sandwich shop, i will step down"
mircea_popescu: "as a lawyer, I hereby promise to be a lawyer and behave accordingly to the rules. if I don't, with or without this useless declaration I am still held liable"
gigavps: i haven't been looking forward to this
mircea_popescu: truely this is going well.
mircea_popescu: gigavps someone is asking for a nda from the lawyer
PsychoticBoy: Is this a loophole not to pay back?
PsychoticBoy: whats up with that mail I recieved
gigavps: you should send mpoe-pr into my thread to quote you on that
mircea_popescu: but i admire the drive to do things properly for once.
mircea_popescu: how much is all this costing you in the end gigavps ?
Ukto: I need to double check some things
Ukto: in the end, I will let anyone attempt to create an asset, and write it up. I will personally decide weather to greenlight it or not.
Diablo-D3: they failed to ship, they are a scam.
Diablo-D3: look at the terms of dibflsc
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: that isnt it
Diablo-D3: even if they ship, its still forever a scam
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: doesnt matter at this point
Diablo-D3: since no interest is paid, I dont have to worry about that blowing up because some exchange went south
Diablo-D3: Ukto: so I think it'd work
Diablo-D3: all numbered and signed with a pgp key used only for this and then locked away in a vault
Diablo-D3: Ukto: what I was thinking was this
Diablo-D3: or just issue them to exchanges directly and have them do whatever
Diablo-D3: I could issue them across multiple exchanges I think
Ukto: so far of the ppl who have their asset lists from nefario
Diablo-D3: its the least problematic way
Ukto: your considering that?
Ukto: still have a few more important things, but wont hold back launch
Diablo-D3: well, if I launch DMC 2.0, thats the way I want to go with funding I think
Ukto: jsut wanna focus on the core system right now
Ukto: considered it, just havent worked it all the way through yet
Diablo-D3: what about just limited allowance of them?
Ukto: ppl can use all the other wannabe's to scam ppl with those for now
Ukto: far too scammish
Ukto: they just want what worked, and what they knew
Ukto: most ppl have told me they dont want something differnt.
Diablo-D3: Ukto: that doesnt sound so bad
mircea_popescu: hopefully you make more sense than that guy.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i just looked. your thing is something more like that btcjam disaster than straight exchange
Ukto: so I avoid them like the plague
mircea_popescu: well i didn't dig that deep ukto
Ukto: I saw one the other day that was ahorrid green color
Diablo-D3: whos going to win?
mircea_popescu: im not even sure how many there are anymore. 12 ? 20 ?
mircea_popescu: o, the forum is replete.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: is there anyone else who has a btc stock exchange thats been created since that is ready to launch ?
Ukto: some of us never "pissed out pants" and did what we wanted from teh get go :P
Ukto: mircea_popescu: the SEC stuff was all false speculation from the get go
Diablo-D3: dub: hey, are you still going to do your proxy when the block reward halves?
mircea_popescu: to think that only a few short months away everyone was pissing their pants thinking of the sec.
mircea_popescu: so is ANYONE left who's not working on, launching or trying to sell some sort of btc stock exchange ?
dub: nefario on top
Azelphur: so many bitcoins that it's not even a number any more.
Chaang-Noi: pie to the face, lulz
rdponticelli: But you can't do much on the site without a balance...
rdponticelli: sgornick: Yes, you have options there
mircea_popescu: i don't see why not tho ?
sgornick: mircea_popescu: Does coinbr allow orders for MPOE options too?
Namjies: I'm building a rocket. Leaving this rock. Anyone with me?
mircea_popescu: ding jurov for that.
sgornick: Looking at coinbr.com for the first time ... I see the dashboard but how would I create an order? (I have not funded the account, if that matters.)
mircea_popescu: let them loan themselves imaginary money till they're blue in the ballsack.